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Capital FM Network (Part 2)
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georgemiller89
25-10-2011
Any one noticed that since the new TOHs came in, it's the same 4/5 songs that kick off the hour.

Personally I think they sound good. But they're getting boring already.
TeleviixonMalta
26-10-2011
That Ofcom report is definatly a sign they think Capital is taking the mick with it's news.
Jacksite
26-10-2011
Oh no... The Jingle Bell Ball is being advertised.

Get ready for advertisement in every link!

TeleviixonMalta
26-10-2011
Also, that report lists the licensee as "GWR Group Ltd" have Global kept "GWR Group Ltd" as a registered company? As it then lists "Parent company: Global Radio Ltd"
-ajm-
26-10-2011
Adams been talking about it in pretty much every link
TeleviixonMalta
26-10-2011
Originally Posted by georgemiller89:
“I can't speak for the others, but it sounded like they've ditched the "the" from the beginning of the slogan, for THE South Coast at least, which doesn't make sense, as it makes it seem like "Coast" is a town/city/region, and their broadcasting the the south of it, rather than "the coast" which is an area near the sea/water.

If that makes sense.”

I've just heard it on the 6pm TOH, i dont know if it's just the Maroon 5 version, but she definatly says "South Coast's number one for hits". It does make it sound like "Coast" is a place, and they are "number one for hits" in the "south" of it.
os17
27-10-2011
Ha! Loving the banter going down between andi and mistajam on twitter http://twitter.com/#!/mistajam
The Magic Monkey
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by os17:
“Ha! Loving the banter going down between andi and mistajam on twitter http://twitter.com/#!/mistajam”

And Durrant just comes across as a wannabe i'm afraid. Jam doesn't rise to it.

Quote:
“AndiDurrant Andi Durrant
On Sat I've now got EXACTLY the same amount of listeners as @mistajam on Radio 1. Battle for the biggest dance music show officially ON
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
in reply to ↑”

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“@mistajam
mistajam
@AndiDurrant I'm more passionate abt bringing my listeners the very best new Dubstep & Bass music on Sat nites rather than ratings. Sorry.”

Bluedabadee
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by The Magic Monkey:
“And Durrant just comes across as a wannabe i'm afraid. Jam doesn't rise to it.”

Andi's figures are for the entire network though so it doesn't really count. Good on mistajam for not rising to it though!
os17
27-10-2011
Just got a little more interesting. Some genuine rivalry going on. How sad that this is keeping me entertained this evening!! ha http://twitter.com/#!/AndiDurrant
Freakerspeaker
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by Bluedabadee:
“Andi's figures are for the entire network though so it doesn't really count. Good on mistajam for not rising to it though!”

Why doesn't that count? Surely they're the same like for like - Capital Network vs Radio One network across the UK. Seems like a pretty impressive thing to me - a smaller commercial station playing specialist music and getting the same national listeners as Radio 1. Looks like Andi is doing incredibly well
soap101
27-10-2011
Who cares. Yawn. Publicity seeking toss pot. Looks like Jam won the war.
Freakerspeaker
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by soap101:
“Who cares. Yawn. Publicity seeking toss pot. Looks like Jam won the war.”

Stupid reply. Just read through Andis twitter feed - there's no publicity seeking whatsoever, just someone who's obviously passionate about what they do getting cross with an arrogant reply to some jokey banter.

Hasn't every other DJ in the Uk been on twitter talking about their listening figures today?

Looks like they resolved it anyway:

AndiDurrant
Right. I have just come off the phone with @mistajam who is a genuine, warm, friendly and passionate man. Officially not a dick. At all.

mistajam
@AndiDurrant Haha! I will always remember the importance of this little guy =

Good to see 2 guys at the top of their game feel so strongly - there's not many stations left with people so into what they do
soap101
27-10-2011
Thanks Andi
Freakerspeaker
27-10-2011
Originally Posted by soap101:
“Thanks Andi”

What
dpb
28-10-2011
Originally Posted by soap101:
“Who cares. Yawn. Publicity seeking toss pot. Looks like Jam won the war.”

Originally Posted by Freakerspeaker:
“Stupid reply. Just read through Andis twitter feed - there's no publicity seeking whatsoever, just someone who's obviously passionate about what they do getting cross with an arrogant reply to some jokey banter.<snip>”

Sorry I have to agree with soap101 - Mistajam handled it all with dignity. I'm a bit confused with it all as when I was following it last night Andi apologised after Mistajam replied then suddenly seemed offended. I suppose it's how misunderstanding happens.

As for "an arrogant reply" - anyone who has knowledge of Mistajam and what he's about would know that isn't true. He seems the type of broadcaster who is passionate about music, showcasing what he likes and I can imagine he doesn't care about ratings so much - just getting on with his job. (Having listened to Andi on and off for various years I know he has similar passion). I follow Mistajam on Twitter and Facebook so know his tweets/statuses and I think that was a genuine honest reply with no malice - I can only presume Andi doesn't follow him to not realise that.

Anyway all this is academic as they've sorted it out now.

Anyway congrats to Andi on his figures and also Capital in general - mixed bag of headline figures but I notice they now have 836,000 listeners outside the analogue areas which is quite impressive.
p_c_u_k
28-10-2011
I don't think anyone behaved particularly badly or lost out in that mini-war.

Mistajam came off well as he refused to rise to the bait and took the moral high ground. Andi Durrant was understandably excited about his figures and wanted to shout about them. We've all taken our sides, both DJs are being talked about, Andi's figures have been noticed and Mistajam gets to play the credibility card. Win win.
they_do_listen
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by Peace100:
“Once again Global get as close to the line as they can.”

Just like they do with the music policies of Heart and Capital then! It amazes me how OFCOM are letting Heart get away with playing what they are under a CHR license, and letting Capital Birmingham get away with playing what they are when they are licensed as an 'Afro-Carribean' station and still consider them 'within format' down to a few slight loopholes!!!


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“I notice they now have 836,000 listeners outside the analogue areas which is quite impressive.”

But is this more down to the sucess of Capital, or down to Heart's failure to provide a full CHR service??? Young people outside of Capital or Kiss's analogue coverage have to resort to DAB etc. to hear their hourly fix of Pixie Lott, The Saturdays and Example.
SmartProgrammer
29-10-2011
Originally Posted by they_do_listen:
“and letting Capital Birmingham get away with playing what they are when they are licensed as an 'Afro-Carribean' station and still consider them 'within format' down to a few slight loopholes!!!”

A format change request for Capital Birmingham is still pending. Reading the responses so far is comedy gold -

"The format should not be changed as it could make other local stations which provide a similar format suffer".

Er, actually "other local stations" are already suffering and have been for a while (Oh hi BRMB) but that's not Capital/Global's fault.
they_do_listen
29-10-2011
How are Capital Scotland getting away with not breaching their format (which I believe is also apllying for a change)???

The OFCOM page clearly says they are a rock and dance station - Some commercial dance is present on the Capital playlist, but I haven't heard Capital play a single rock song for ages.
p_c_u_k
30-10-2011
I'm guessing no-one has complained, otherwise Ofcom would have launched an investigation.

I'd imagine Capital has covered its back, so there's probably one track which could conceivably be seen as indie every hour or few hours, and there is an indie specialist show presented by Mash in the early hours in Scotland only at the weekends. Certainly there was no effort at carrying the XFM Scotland audience into the new station, with everyone who liked XFM told to bugger off an buy a digital radio, and an XFM network show being abruptly crashed into mid-afternoon to be replaced by Galaxy on its first day, to the bemusement of the listeners and to the afternoon DJ, who was apparently due to output XFM Scotland's final show a few minutes later.

Nevertheless, this formats situation is a juggling nightmare for the people running the station. Should the cyclical nature of British pop suddenly see a re-emergance of indie or pure pop in the charts, they're going to be in a bit of trouble.

Mind you, with London's number one hit music station and Radio 1's spin-off both concentrating on R'n'B and dance, and Radio 2 concentrating on older music, ballads and soft rock, and most of commerical radio following in their footsteps, it would take a hell of a push for that sort of scene to make a concerted push into the charts again.
mbessex
30-10-2011
Originally Posted by p_c_u_k:
“That reads as a 'you've just about got away with it, but watch yourselves' from Ofcom to me.”

Well they must be quaking at that - basically local news in all but the thinnest of provision is now technically dead on local commercial radio. It's all just a bit too convienient.
-ajm-
30-10-2011
It struck me just now. Why doesn't Capital have a mobile friendly website?
omnidirectional
30-10-2011
Originally Posted by p_c_u_k:
“I'm guessing no-one has complained, otherwise Ofcom would have launched an investigation.
”


There has been a complaint: http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bin..._CScotland.pdf but in an unusual move the investigation has been put on hold until a decision is made about the format change, even though the complaint predates the format change request.

Quote:
“I'd imagine Capital has covered its back, so there's probably one track which could conceivably be seen as indie every hour or few hours, and there is an indie specialist show presented by Mash in the early hours in Scotland only at the weekends.”

Mash is national, but I don't think there any 'indie' music on the main playlist.
Willum
30-10-2011
The specialist shows should really be brought forward so that most of them are broadcast before midnight. So Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights particularly should be full of specialist output from no later than 6pm, and maybe from 9pm on weekday nights.

There is no point in having specialist shows if they're put on at silly o'clock, and Ofcom should lean on Global in the same way that it did with Kix 96 a few years back to ensure that rather more than lip service is paid to the specialist format requirements.

It's not hurting Kiss or Radio 1, so why should it hurt Capital? Most of the Capital stations are former Galaxy and Kiss stations anyway, so we shouldn't even be having this debate - the specialist programming should never have been removed in the first place.
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