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the stunt was funny, I had a laugh and I really don't like The Wanted.
you have got to see though that Capital promote The Wanted more than any other bands like JLS for example. Now, JLS when they first got a record deal and the station Capital was just in London were always on Rich & Kat's show or lingering about at Capital. It's very rare now that you see JLS or hear of JLS at Capital. The Wanted weren't established then though, and the core point would be, all things being equal, who would gain more exposure? Some would argue that The Wanted are as established as JLS now. In reality it would be impossible to claim undue prominence with anything associated with The wanted at this time, they are simply too big. If something unfortunate was to happen, some sleazy scandal with one of the members, that made the playing of their records impossible by Radio 1, Bauer etc, and Global kept pushing the song and the band , then there may be a case. Even then, Global could argue that they just like the song. |
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Good point, and true.
The Wanted weren't established then though, and the core point would be, all things being equal, who would gain more exposure? Some would argue that The Wanted are as established as JLS now. In reality it would be impossible to claim undue prominence with anything associated with The wanted at this time, they are simply too big. If something unfortunate was to happen, some sleazy scandal with one of the members, that made the playing of their records impossible by Radio 1, Bauer etc, and Global kept pushing the song and the band , then there may be a case. Even then, Global could argue that they just like the song. I don't listen to Capital frequently enough to know if they play 1D song(s) or not but at the moment, even though The Wanted are big.. I hate to say it but 1D are just slightly bigger. |
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Valid points too, but look at One Direction at the moment. (Another band I detest), they're quite big. Why aren't Capital bothering with them? They're slap bang in the target audience for Capital and after The X Factor a week ago and constantly trending on Twitter, you would've thought that Capital gave them the time of day?
I don't listen to Capital frequently enough to know if they play 1D song(s) or not but at the moment, even though The Wanted are big.. I hate to say it but 1D are just slightly bigger. |
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They play them on high rotation and they're at te jingle bell ball as well I think, so they do get a fair whack. I think the reason other artists get more airplay is 1d have only had one song, although capital don't seem to be playing their latest one.
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If you look at the world through a rather simplistic window then no. But you have a monoply supplier ( Well I can't just open up an FM station in london ) who promotes its own product more than other peoples products it just dont smell right, the audience might not care, that is not the point.
I suppose until that happens we'll have to dream of the day. Hang on, wait a minute.... |
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Incorrect. You'll currently hear both "What Makes You Beautiful" and "Gotta Be You" on Capital (the latter being on low rotation at the moment).
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If only there was a public service broadcaster whose portfolio included a station aimed at under 30s with a commitment to new music and British bands and another commercial company with multi-media interests including a strong commercial competitor to Capital within the London market.
I suppose until that happens we'll have to dream of the day. Hang on, wait a minute.... http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/orga...radio-playlist If Ofcom ever get into this, it's a real can of worms. |
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They play them on high rotation and they're at te jingle bell ball as well I think, so they do get a fair whack. I think the reason other artists get more airplay is 1d have only had one song, although capital don't seem to be playing their latest one. Having said that the song is bloody awfull so.....!
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Originally Posted by Bluedabadee
Must admit, I got sent 'Gotta Be You' by Sony the other week and I played it and I loved it. It's not as annoying as 'WMYB'
![]() As for Gotta Be You being played on low rotation on Capital, it must be on that 'hardly-ever-gets-played' list as I listen to Capital every day and I've never heard it on there (thank god!). |
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As for Gotta Be You being played on low rotation on Capital, it must be on that 'hardly-ever-gets-played' list as I listen to Capital every day and I've never heard it on there (thank god!).
Sunday 6.28pm (BT40), 7.19pm Monday 3.18am, 9.31pm Tuesday 4.18am, 8.51pm Wednesday 5.14am, 9.16pm |
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It does seem a bit odd (if not on purpose) that Capital, of all the stations in the UK, plays the Wanted more than anyone else. People are saying that the Wanted are huge at the moment, and that's true, but then surely they should be getting hammered on plenty of stations across the UK, not just Capital - leading to no reason why Capital should top the list of Wanted playing stations.
If you compare the stats (I'm not sure on the reliability of comparemyradio, so correct me if it's pants): Capital North East (for instance): 1. The Wanted (264 plays) ... 19. One Direction (101 plays) Nationwide stations playing The Wanted ranking by plays: Top 7 are Capital and Capital variants. As a little personal disclaimer, I'm not bothered so much about The Wanted being on my radio - they're the perfect radio songs - I don't love them, but I won't turn them off. And I'm also not a capital hater. Just some thoughts. |
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It amazes me how OFCOM are letting Heart get away with playing what they are under a CHR license, and letting Capital Birmingham get away with playing what they are when they are licensed as an 'Afro-Carribean' station and still consider them 'within format' down to a few slight loopholes!!!
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That doesn't preclude them from this, far from it. Pete Tong,Westwood and Jo Whiley have all been linked with another strain of this, here's the article MR alluded to
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/orga...radio-playlist If Ofcom ever get into this, it's a real can of worms. |
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The format change for Birmingham and Scotland has just been approved
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Something I wasn't aware of, as I was just reading Matt Deegan's blog post on this
http://www.mattdeegan.com/2011/10/16/the-wanted-global/ You can see a "pre order" banner for The Wanted's new single. This confuses things a little more, as far as I'm aware Ofcom have no interest in a radio stations website ??? (I don't know the answer) However, if a case was ever bought about undue prominence , that would be pretty interesting background evidence. It's obviously not the same as promoting their own line of (Heart)CD compilations, or promoting the jingle bell ball. Both enterprises would have financial gain for the station, but the listener would know that, in the case above they wouldn't, and I very much doubt that Capital have ever had a pre-order button for another artists song, can anyone say they have seen that ?? |
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Originally Posted by dpb
I wonder if Global will apply to have the required specialist hours for Yorkshire, Manchester and the North East brought in line with Birmingham and Central Scotland?
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I wonder if Global will apply to have the required specialist hours for Yorkshire, Manchester and the North East brought in line with Birmingham and Central Scotland?
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The format change for Birmingham and Scotland has just been approved
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Does this mean that MASH will be axed from Capital Scotland
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Capital have got to supply at least 12 hours specialist though. Ah yes, I can see how they're getting around that. Sad day, especially as the specialist shows are the best thing on Capital.
Will be sad to see Mash go especially if Global decide to do away with the shows |
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Will this affect the daytime playlist?
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Probably not, the playlist could perhaps become less urban heavy now, but as that music is so popular at the moment I don't think much will change. The Birmingham format change doesn't go as far as Global originally wanted so the specialist urban show is likely to stay.
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i was pleased to hear Hirsty Daily Dose getting back to its Galaxy days this morning Anonymous Confessional was brilliant this morning
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I miss hirsty here as we have the london feed here in the east. I really hope mash dont go as i really love his shows but he could move to kiss that would be good and andy durrant could go to kiss too but that wont happen.
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All specialist shows will be gone as soon as they're allowed to I bet.
That Birmingham license was originally REALLY urban of course. Buzz/Choice FM. Hard to imagine now. It had a whack load of requirements and loads of specialist output. Chrysalis managed to dump some, but not all of it (I think they had a gospel show for some time when it became Galaxy, on Sunday mornings, amongst other things). Be under no illusion though - Chrysalis wanted to dump it all in the same way Global pretty much have done now. I ain't saying that's right - it's just the case. The inevitable end of all this is that the license requirements for Brum and Scotland are the same as London's or whatever. That's what this is all about. In Tabor's mind Capital is one large radio national station, and any local requirements (or presenters, studios, etc etc...!) are an inconvenience. Daytime playlisting won't be affected. As another poster points out - there is a bit of an urban leaning right now, but that's because it is what kids are listening to. If that changed, Capital would too. |
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