[thething124]

I have got a Vestel Goodmans Freeview Box in the loft that I think is good but has limited settings. Got a Vestel Bush LCD TV in the kitchen that is an awful picture.

[John Currie]

Stupid idea for a Poll IMHO.
Your Vestel-based Tv in the kitchen may have an "awful picture" for a variety of reasons, a duff aerial for one.

[thething124]

It is using Sky.

[John Currie]

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Originally Posted by thething124

It is using Sky.

Exactly my point.
Sky via RF is bad on most sets.

[alves]

I had a 32inch Toshiba which I believe was a badged Vestel and thought the PQ was pretty decent, so yes I have.

[ProDave]

Vestel make a whole host of chassis for tv's. freeview boxes PVR's etc. They never sell under the Vestel name, so every set with a vestel chassis, is by definition just a "badged" set.

Some are good, some are carp, so it's impossible to generalise.

Personally I dislike just about every vestel freeview box I have ever seen, because my pet hate, they don't let you re order the channel numbers to put the channels in a sensible order. Otherwise the user interface is pretty clear and straightforward.

Conversley, my vestel (JVC) CRT set (that I still keep as a spare) had a very logical, well thought out user interface, and all the AV inputs etc just worked as you would expect. It even did line 23 widescreen switching via rf. Oh how I wish I could find an LCD set that had a similarly logical and dependable user interface. Every LCD set I have had has had some most peculiar quirks in the way if functions.

Despite what others may have found, I also find them pretty reliable, and when they do go wrong, the service information is usually easy to obtain, unlike some other "no name" badged sets that once broken are nigh on impossible to fix.

[AlanO]

For what it's worth, I've got a 20 year old Matsui portable in the loft, which works (probably a Vestel), a 10 year old Matsui VCR, again still working no problem. A T810 PVR (Digihome badged), no problems and a 3 year old Bush 15" LCD / DVD in the bedroom, also no probs.

I have to say, I've always been reasonably lucky with 'own brand' / unbranded stuff like this.

[Sibeber]

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Originally Posted by AlanO

For what it's worth, I've got a 20 year old Matsui portable in the loft, which works (probably a Vestel), a 10 year old Matsui VCR, again still working no problem. A T810 PVR (Digihome badged), no problems and a 3 year old Bush 15" LCD / DVD in the bedroom, also no probs.

I have to say, I've always been reasonably lucky with 'own brand' / unbranded stuff like this.

I have 2 grundig (vestel ) lcd telly's and a finlux (vestel lcd) all over 4 years old all work brilliantly

[Peter the Great]

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Originally Posted by ProDave

Vestel make a whole host of chassis for tv's. freeview boxes PVR's etc. They never sell under the Vestel name, so every set with a vestel chassis, is by definition just a "badged" set.

Some are good, some are carp, so it's impossible to generalise.

Personally I dislike just about every vestel freeview box I have ever seen, because my pet hate, they don't let you re order the channel numbers to put the channels in a sensible order. Otherwise the user interface is pretty clear and straightforward.

Conversley, my vestel (JVC) CRT set (that I still keep as a spare) had a very logical, well thought out user interface, and all the AV inputs etc just worked as you would expect. It even did line 23 widescreen switching via rf. Oh how I wish I could find an LCD set that had a similarly logical and dependable user interface. Every LCD set I have had has had some most peculiar quirks in the way if functions.

Despite what others may have found, I also find them pretty reliable, and when they do go wrong, the service information is usually easy to obtain, unlike some other "no name" badged sets that once broken are nigh on impossible to fix.

Are you sure the JVC CRT set is a vestel? I still have a JVC CRT widescreen tv as my main tv that i bought in 2004. The tv still produces a brilliant picture and has been incredibly reliable. The only thing that is crap is the stand that come with it which can't stand the weight of the tv! From my knowledge most JVC CRT tvs used Philips tubes but i don't know about the other components. My set was made in the UK by the way.

[ProDave]

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Originally Posted by Peter the Great

Are you sure the JVC CRT set is a vestel? I still have a JVC CRT widescreen tv as my main tv that i bought in 2004. The tv still produces a brilliant picture and has been incredibly reliable. The only thing that is crap is the stand that come with it which can't stand the weight of the tv! From my knowledge most JVC CRT tvs used Philips tubes but i don't know about the other components. My set was made in the UK by the way.

Yes my JVC is most definitely a Vestel. Like every tv I have ever owned, this one came to me faulty (in this case for free) and I repaired it. So 100% certain it's a Vestel chassis, it says so on the PCB.

As far as I can tell it was only the latter JVC CRT sets that went over to vestel, and many in the trade lamented such a move

[captainkremmen]

I had a Hitachi (Vestel based) Freeview PVR and generally it was decent. Like most Vestel PVRs it suffered occasional stuttering and occasional lockups, but to be fair, it seems pretty much every Freeview SD PVR have odd issues and foibles. In terms of what it was designed to do, record Freeview broadcasts, it worked well. Accurate Recording worked well and was never an issue and the menu was clear, well laid out and very easy to use.

The occasional issue was more an annoyance than anything, but as long as you were aware of the odd problem it was generally good. However, some people would view the odd issue as being really bad and would slate it for those issues.

It was only recently replaced by a Digitalstream HD PVR which, to me, is everything a good PVR should be in that it hasn't once locked up, slowed down or missed a recording, nor does it suffer any stuttering or dropouts when playing back. However, it was twice the price of the Hitachi.

One of my friends has an Acoustic Solutions 32inch LCD and after some tweaking of the settings, the picture is generally good for the money. Again, the menu structure and EPG is logical and well laid out compared to some. Although she has now moved it to her bedroom as she now was a 42 inch Samsung Plasma in the Living room.

[Peter the Great]

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Originally Posted by ProDave

Yes my JVC is most definitely a Vestel. Like every tv I have ever owned, this one came to me faulty (in this case for free) and I repaired it. So 100% certain it's a Vestel chassis, it says so on the PCB.

As far as I can tell it was only the latter JVC CRT sets that went over to vestel, and many in the trade lamented such a move

I see. I know that some JVC freeview boxes were Vestels but not the tvs. Shame many brands have gone down this route. Hitachi and Toshiba being 2 others.

[AlanO]

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Originally Posted by Peter the Great

I see. I know that some JVC freeview boxes were Vestels but not the tvs. Shame many brands have gone down this route. Hitachi and Toshiba being 2 others.

And don't forget Sony - who's new "BX" range are Beko built and who have bought in PVRs, DVD recorders and VCRs from a variety of sources. Probably not what their owners would have expected when they paid the premium price that Sony products usually have.

[Peter the Great]

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And don't forget Sony - who's new "BX" range are Beko built and who have bought in PVRs, DVD recorders and VCRs from a variety of sources. Probably not what their owners would have expected when they paid the premium price that Sony products usually have.

Oh no! I thought that Sony were one of the very few brands that you could still trust. Is their actually any brands out there that don't deal with Vestel?

[spiney2]

Vestels are cheap, since effectively the state consumer electronics manufacturer, supported by Turkish Government.

So it's very tempting for other manufacturers to re-badge them .....

[AlanO]

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Originally Posted by Peter the Great

Oh no! I thought that Sony were one of the very few brands that you could still trust. Is their actually any brands out there that don't deal with Vestel?

Well technically Sony don't deal with Vestel - though I guess Beko isn't that much different.

I don't think Panasonic are badging stuff at the moment - though I believe they have in the past.

The reality is, it is more cost effective for the major manufacturers to buy in their low / mid range products. If you go for the higher end, you're less likely to buy a badged product. Having said that, if you buy a set, you're happy with its performance and it is reliable, why are you worried where it comes from?

[Peter the Great]

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Originally Posted by AlanO

Well technically Sony don't deal with Vestel - though I guess Beko isn't that much different.

I don't think Panasonic are badging stuff at the moment - though I believe they have in the past.

The reality is, it is more cost effective for the major manufacturers to buy in their low / mid range products. If you go for the higher end, you're less likely to buy a badged product. Having said that, if you buy a set, you're happy with its performance and it is reliable, why are you worried where it comes from?

The thing is if the peformance and relability is not good which Vestel products are often not then this could ruin the reputation of many brands.

[AlanO]

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Originally Posted by Peter the Great

The thing is if the peformance and relability is not good which Vestel products are often not then this could ruin the reputation of many brands.

However all things are relative.

Vestel's kit is at least as reliable as the "major" brands were 15-20 years ago - so in the minds of many that's fine.

Yes, there are always some products which fail in a shorter time - regardless of the brand - but I'm willing to be far more 'unbranded' budget sets are sold than of any of the major brands and those sales have been growing year on year - so there's no evidence that consumers are turned off by such products. In fact the 'shorter' lifecycle of new technology arriving on the market has, if anything, led more people to buy a less expensive unit on the basis that if it fails in 5 years, we'll buy something better.

[AidanLunn]

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Originally Posted by thething124

It is using Sky.

A good quality component signal rammed down an RF stream is always going to be a pair of balls.

[AidanLunn]

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Originally Posted by Sibeber

I have 2 grundig (vestel ) lcd telly's and a finlux (vestel lcd) all over 4 years old all work brilliantly

Guaranteed those good badged Grundigs will never be as good as a genuine Grundig though

I just wish i was rich enough to be able to afford those two Grundig VS680 SVHS machines that ended on eBay last night!