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Ignazio
20-02-2011
Originally Posted by LittleMinx25:
“Why should someone who used drugs with her kids in the house & only spends time with them when it helps her with her desire for the British public to love her get any respect from me?????

Respect is EARNT not injected or sniffed !!!!!!”

Why did you not address the point I made in my post?
Darcyprincess
20-02-2011
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“I hope the booing isn't going to become a regular feature of the show - it spoils the atmosphere.

Johnson wasn't much worse than Jeff so it wasn't some sort of travesty.

I thought the incident said more about Jeff's fans in the audience. Not very gracious.”

I could not agree more. It is not necessary to boo at all! Considering Johnsons problems he has improved massively and Jeff did not have a great skate. It could easily have been either of them in the bottom two with Kerry. At least the right 3 were in the bottom, all the others deserved to go through.

As much as Kerry has not been a great skater she has tried and she has done this for many other reasons than just to learn to skate. It was all about finding the old Kerry and it has definitely boosted her faith in the public for them keeping her in for as long as they have and giving her their love and support to get stronger in her own life and for her children.

Kerry and Johnson have both done amazing and I am glad that these type of people join the show, even if they are not the best dancers or skaters. As long as the top 3 or 4 are there at the end is what matters. Jeff was much better in the skate off and if he is in the bottom with Johnson or the likes of Denise Welch next week then I am sure that he will stay over these two.

But once again, booing really is not necessary!
LittleMinx25
20-02-2011
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Why did you not address the point I made in my post?”

I told u why i dislike her & have no respect for her so Im sure you can guess why I called some of her fans chavvys!!!

If you really believe she is on that show for anything other than publicity & miney then she is a good actress!
Pete Callan
20-02-2011
They didn't boo him, they booed that Jeff was bottom two. It's a positive vote not negative, you cynics.

I respect what Johnson has done, but now Kerry is gone he is the worst skater, and therefore should go next week.
Darcyprincess
20-02-2011
Originally Posted by LittleMinx25:
“Why should someone who used drugs with her kids in the house & only spends time with them when it helps her with her desire for the British public to love her get any respect from me?????

Respect is EARNT not injected or sniffed !!!!!!”

Everybody deserves a second chances. Kerry is not only trying to improve her own life but the lifes of her children as well. I dont condone anybody that takes drugs but a lot of us have not had the life and the low self esteem that Kerry has had or been let down by her mother and ex husbands like she has. It does not take much to have compassion for others and if this helps Kerry have a better life for herself and her children then it will do her the world of good. Kerry is very childlike at times but maybe that is because she never had a great childhood. She just wants to be loved and looked after. What is wrong with that?

Kindness and compassion goes a long way, what a shame that so many people like to see the worst in others rather than their better points! Nobody is perfect!
muppypuppy
20-02-2011
Originally Posted by Pete Callan:
“I respect what Johnson has done, but now Kerry is gone he is the worst skater, and therefore should go next week.”

I think Denise should go next week with Johnson the week after. Although I think both of them have improved over the course of the show but for me (and it's only my opinion - which I know some will agree with and some won't) Johnson has the edge of her.
maidinscotland
20-02-2011
Originally Posted by LittleMinx25:
“I told u why i dislike her & have no respect for her so Im sure you can guess why I called some of her fans chavvys!!!

If you really believe she is on that show for anything other than publicity & miney then she is a good actress!”

I assume you mean 'publicity and money'. Do you really think the others are there for any other reason?
hitnmix
20-02-2011
I have a lot of respect for Johnston and I think he doing really well and should stay in but only for a week or two as there is better skaters in the show. But when it comes to booing a man like him no matter how bad you think he is, its sick. Yes say if you dont like his skating but dont boo him or anyone for that matter.

As for them who are saying the people who like and respect him want him to have special treatment, get real will you no body said he should get special treatment only that he shouldnt be booed.
Ignazio
20-02-2011
Originally Posted by LittleMinx25:
“I told u why i dislike her & have no respect for her so Im sure you can guess why I called some of her fans chavvys!!!

If you really believe she is on that show for anything other than publicity & miney then she is a good actress!”

I didn't ask why you dislike her.
My question was:
Why is it always the assumption that it is Kerry's supporters/defenders who are unappreciative of heroism? And I stand by my opinion that many of her detractors who call her supporters chavs would do well to look at themselves.

Your final comment is opinion - nothing more.

This week was certainly her time to go and it would have been an injustice had anyone else been voted off - but she accepted her limitations and made her departure with grace. I truly hope she makes the best of this exposure and that it is a springboard for a more settled life - although I have no doubt many are waiting with anticipation for her to fail.

Strangely some who profess concern for her children are the most vocal in their conviction that she will founder.

btw what does miney mean?
Last edited by Ignazio : 20-02-2011 at 23:59
eunicelouise658
20-02-2011
I think the only person who should be booed is Jason.
Ballroom-B.
21-02-2011
I didn't notice the booing (my mind was probably elsewhere) but how disgraceful. There is no need to display such rudeness. No-one deserves that treatment. Not even Jason who seems to get booed before he has even opened his mouth to speak.

Quote:
“They didn't boo him, they booed that Jeff was bottom two. It's a positive vote not negative, you cynics.”

Booing can never be seen as a positive vote. By booing that Jeff was in the skate off the implication is that they are booing Johnson being through.
wordfromthewise
21-02-2011
I fear that we are rapidly reaching the 'bum biting' stage re Johnson and DOI ........clearly he is getting a sympathy vote because of either his heroics,his subsequent difficulties or both but he is clearly not there on merit and IMO its a bit sad to see a decorated hero being patronised ( a la Widdicombe,Sargent,Wagner) in this way..............better all round if he hadn't entered IMO.
footygirl
21-02-2011
Originally Posted by wordfromthewise:
“I fear that we are rapidly reaching the 'bum biting' stage re Johnson and DOI ........clearly he is getting a sympathy vote because of either his heroics,his subsequent difficulties or both but he is clearly not there on merit and IMO its a bit sad to see a decorated hero being patronised ( a la Widdicombe,Sargent,Wagner) in this way..............better all round if he hadn't entered IMO.”

Disagree - strongly. First of all - it is not a sympathy vote. It is an admiration vote. And how many celebs get a vote on the grounds of what they have done - that is their fanbase. Johnson has got his fanbase. Good luck to the guy. I would much rather he won than some of the desperados we do have. The best technician doesn't always win - and it is wrong to assume that best technician should win. Sam, Laura and Chloe have obviously has previous skating experience, Vanilla Ice too for that matter. So they have started with an advantage. So therefore not suprising to see someone who starts from scratch pulling the vast majority of the votes because people feel they can identify with him

And you are very unfair to put him in the same group as Wagner, Widdecombe, Sergeant. For starters he can skate - and is challenging himself. Johnson is far better than the likes of Kerry, Dominic, Comedy Dave. He is there on merit, and because the public want him there.

Remember Strictly- Chris Hollins - started from scratch - worked very hard and was likeable - it is just the same with Johnson
davedub
21-02-2011
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“This!

I don't agree with anyone getting booed, however I don't think Johnson should get special treatment. He's rubbish and if he stays passed next week it will be a farce.”

Agreed, he should go next week or Denise. I didnt even notice he got booed
Duckfeet
21-02-2011
Originally Posted by ianswaiting:
“Yes, he has done all those things, but why should be get special treatment in this just because of them. You might as well say that he should be allowed to win automatically because none of the others have fought for their country.”

Do you not understand the difference between criticism, which is what the judges are there for, and what we the viewers do when we decide to vote; and booing an individual (whoever he or she is)?
Are studio the audience actually encouraged to behave like baboons, or what?
Veri
21-02-2011
When was he booed?

I sometimes heard some confused noise from the crowd that may have contained boos, but I didn't manage to notice any clear boos.

When did they happen, so that people can check for themselves?
cooperone
21-02-2011
Originally Posted by dwiseman:
“Jeff is so much better.. disgrace he didnt get straight through”

Jeff was'nt very good in his first skate, loads better when he knew he could got home, but to be honest he knew KK would go....Johnson should have been in bottom two with KK but no way was he going to be has to many fans at the moment
barbieblue
21-02-2011
No one deserves to get booed IMO. With the exception of Jason who should be booed, then hung,drawn and quartered and fed to the fishes !
SULLA
21-02-2011
Nobody should get booed.

If you don't like them, don't vote for them
cooperone
21-02-2011
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“Nobody should get booed.

If you don't like them, don't vote for them”

Who got booed??
Ignazio
21-02-2011
Originally Posted by ianswaiting:
“Yes, he has done all those things, but why should be get special treatment in this just because of them. You might as well say that he should be allowed to win automatically because none of the others have fought for their country.”

That's a huge illogical leap.

No one has said he should get special treatment based on his heroics - but those who do vote for him, even if their support is motivated by his courage are entitled to do so without their reasons being questioned.
Cranberryapple
21-02-2011
I didn't hear him getting booed!
He's certainly not the best skater there, but I actually enjoy watching him and the lovely smile he always seems to have on his face.. He was like a newly born Bambi when he 1st started. He is ( slowly but surely ) coming on better. I'm pretty sure he would liked to 'voted' on this rather than the 'sympathy' vote for what he done in the Army... He is a fine young man and I for 1 hope he continues to improve
Tiger Rose
21-02-2011
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“Disagree - strongly. First of all - it is not a sympathy vote. It is an admiration vote. And how many celebs get a vote on the grounds of what they have done - that is their fanbase. Johnson has got his fanbase. Good luck to the guy. I would much rather he won than some of the desperados we do have. The best technician doesn't always win - and it is wrong to assume that best technician should win. Sam, Laura and Chloe have obviously has previous skating experience, Vanilla Ice too for that matter. So they have started with an advantage. So therefore not suprising to see someone who starts from scratch pulling the vast majority of the votes because people feel they can identify with him

And you are very unfair to put him in the same group as Wagner, Widdecombe, Sergeant. For starters he can skate - and is challenging himself. Johnson is far better than the likes of Kerry, Dominic, Comedy Dave. He is there on merit, and because the public want him there.

Remember Strictly- Chris Hollins - started from scratch - worked very hard and was likeable - it is just the same with Johnson”

Have they really? I know Sam mentioned that he used to go to Ice Skating discos when he was younger but am not aware of any previous experience with the others.

Do you have any evidence of this? If not I suggest you don't state it as if it's a fact. The advantage that they probably have is that of natural talent. To me that is something that can equally be admired.

One thing we do agree on is that his vote is more admiration as opposed to sympathy.

I quite like Johnson & am happy if he stays for another couple of weeks though I would prefer if he left before the quarter finals.
*Wysiwyg*
21-02-2011
Originally Posted by *Laura*:
“I was surprised and actually a little ashamed of my country when I heard the boos. Yes, it's a skating competition but, let's not be fooled it is also a popularity contest and Johnson is coming across as a very likeable person. We've watched him improve and develop, ok he's not the best but, he's not the worst and we've seen less able skaters in previous series get carried to the latter rounds of this "competition".

Those people booing, are part of everything that has gone wrong for our soldiers when they leave the forces. Yes, they're great when they're fighting for us but, hey ho, we cant' give them decent jobs, or houses when they've done the "job". I honestly wouldn't mind if he won the whole bliddy thing. Out of ALL the skaters, he's the one who I actually will around the ice and want to do well. He's slowly but surely getting the hang of it and I can see the improvement.

I'm sure a lot of people away from these forums are pleased to see him doing so well. There are probably a lot of members of the armed forces and their families picking up their phones and voting for "one of theirs". Mothers, Fathers, wives, sons and daughters all hoping that there's a Johnson in their loved one's squadron. I have to admit normally I don't do "sympathy" voting but, with Johnson I'm sure there are people voting just to show that they support what he did AND what our troops are going through, and you won't hear me complaining.

RANT over. ”

Well said *Laura*. I totally agree with you.
SuperAPJ
22-02-2011
It is possible to have respect for Johnson for his army service whilst thinking he is not the best skater! I doubt there would be as many cries of "disgrace!" if it had been Kerry, for example. The booing of any contestant is uncalled for though. I wonder how many of the audience could perform like that each week, along with the hours of practice. I certainly couldn't, so they have my admiration.
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