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Old 25-06-2012, 21:02
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Britt is going to side with Garry, I think. Britt loved Garry even in the hospital, even though she was injured in the fire and she knew Garry slept with Dani. It wasn't until she found out Brandon had died and Garry wouldn't see her that the love turned.
Very possible. But Yvonne is also very likely to get some form of custody if she fights for it. Which I think is almost guaranteed the way they're writing her and Gwern's bond lately. It would be very interesting to see Yvonne and Garry having to share custody. It would also give her character a big reason to stay on the show, and I don't see her leaving anytime soon. They do seem to be building her up as a character in her own right.
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Old 25-06-2012, 21:09
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Yvonne is staying. There is going to be an actual fight with real issues here. No one is going to hand Yvonne a child. I can see both Yvonne and Garry hating Gwyneth in the end.
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Old 25-06-2012, 21:14
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Yvonne is already starting to hate Gwyneth. You can tell she is torn between love and hate these days, which is why I think she is the most likely choice to be sending the letters. The more Gwyneth makes her second best in her life the more Yvonne will resent keeping her secret and the more the hate will grow. Garry is bound to hate Gwyneth's guts.

There will be a big court battle, but Yvonne does have rights and she is a good mother figure for Gwern. Which is why I am convinced she will get joint or full custody. Her and Garry are going to have to learn to deal with eachother for Gwern's sake. Britt will stick her oar in and probably not help matters. I don't see Yvonne backing down though, she wants who she considers her son. Which is fair enough, she is a second mum to him.
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Old 25-06-2012, 21:22
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Yvonne's biggest problem here is Gwyneth saying the Garry was so dangerous she couldn't take the legal option here and use the courts to protect Yvonne and Gwern. There were legal options for Gwyneth she didn't take them and its going to look very bad. As it should.
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Old 25-06-2012, 21:28
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Gwyneth is an idiot. But Yvonne didn't have anything to do with the fire or it's aftermath so it won't effect her. It isn't a crime not to disclose someone's guilty secret, it will only cause you problems if you actively helped the person cover up the crime. Yvonne and Jinx won't face any legal repercussions for not telling. There was a good reason they didn't tell, she was the wife of one, and the best friend of the other. Plus, Gwyneth had cancer and guilt tripped them over Gwern.

Gwyneth may do the right thing and tell people that her wife had actually wanted to turn her in to begin with. I don't think it will all effect the custody battle, but it will have some characters being judgemental on the two people who knew the truth. Though they had a very hard choice to make.
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Old 25-06-2012, 21:36
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Yvonne didn't adopt Gwern, this is a problem, because there were grounds to terminate or limit Garry's custody rights and establish Yvonne as the legal mother, it didn't happen. Then there is Gwyneth who leaves Gwern with Garry all the time, another problem. She says one thing and acts completely different. Makes any assertion that Garry is unfit look like a lie.
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Old 25-06-2012, 21:46
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Poor Yvonne wants to but Gwyneth keeps saying no. She is a crappy wife most of the time.

No one would be claiming he's an unfit father in general. But Yvonne can prove he's unfit to be a full-time father. That is why it's very likely she would at least joint custody because she would be the best option as a full-time parent. Garry rights wouldn't get any less than they are now, and infact he might get joint custody.
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Old 25-06-2012, 22:30
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yvonne got all of garys back ground to show hes a unfit father
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Old 25-06-2012, 22:50
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Yes she does, I know it is tv but judges do not like to have resolve problems that could have been resolved in a proper legal way but weren't. It is wasteful and disrespectful to the court. Its a big problem for someone like Yvonne who works for the legal system. The court might not be inclined to be on her side.
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Old 25-06-2012, 23:04
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I just saw tonights, I have a new respect for Gaynor. She wants to help Izzy and Macs. I hope Izzy forgives her. Macs looks like he is in denial. I wonder if he ever get proper help.

Sheryl looks so demented. That face of hers whenever she sees Moc and Anita. She truly doesn't know why she can't be Moc's public girlfriend? I hope that there is something wrong with Gethin he flips out and the fall out is much worse than she imagined. Would serve her right.
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Old 25-06-2012, 23:08
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be good for him to have help and then get justic
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Old 25-06-2012, 23:12
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be good for him to have help and then get justic
Scott having to leave is just not enough punishment. He just walked right into Macs house tonight. What kind of person just walks into the home of his victim? I wish Macs could go to court.
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Old 25-06-2012, 23:23
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that was bad when he walked in just shows he dont care what he does
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Old 25-06-2012, 23:53
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Yes she does, I know it is tv but judges do not like to have resolve problems that could have been resolved in a proper legal way but weren't. It is wasteful and disrespectful to the court. Its a big problem for someone like Yvonne who works for the legal system. The court might not be inclined to be on her side.
The court would only care about the child's best interests. They wouldn't hold those things against Yvonne, as none of it is actually her doing. It would not effect her chances of getting Gwern. It would all be based on who is a secure and stable parent for the child.
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Old 26-06-2012, 00:31
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The court would only care about the child's best interests. They wouldn't hold those things against Yvonne, as none of it is actually her doing. It would not effect her chances of getting Gwern. It would all be based on who is a secure and stable parent for the child.
I think that could look like Garry. Yvonne is not completely innocent in terms of the deception here. in practice if a judge thinks you have been lying its a problem. They are going to look at everything you do more closely than they would otherwise, question things they might not have questioned. Don't be so naive, judges are human. Yes they may only supposed to look at what is in the best interest of the child, but how you see evidence is influenced by the conduct of the parties.
People lose cases they should have won on the law all the time.
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Old 26-06-2012, 00:34
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Just caught up on the ep - I can't believe Scott just walked in. Poor Macs - I agree that Macs is in denal at the moment. I hope tomorrow night we see him lose control and get some of his anger out
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Old 26-06-2012, 00:50
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Just caught up on the ep - I can't believe Scott just walked in. Poor Macs - I agree that Macs is in denal at the moment. I hope tomorrow night we see him lose control and get some of his anger out
I don't think he really is able to wrap his head around just how horrible and dangerous Scott is. He wants to pretend that he can just live like normal in the same village.

To be honest it is pretty hard to comprehend what motivates a person like Scott. I suppose he will give whatever his excuse is. It will probably be lame and repulsive.
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Old 26-06-2012, 04:38
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Scott seems obsessed with Macs. It wouldn`t surprise me if he used Izzy just to get near to Macs to have another go. I really don`t believe that Scott cares about Izzy one bit. I bet he set the whole thing up - including the 'chance' meeting in Greece....especially when he knows that Izzy loathes Macs.
My blood ran cold tonight when I saw Scott in Macs` home.
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:58
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do you i think the same why he got with izzy to get against macs even more
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Old 26-06-2012, 13:58
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I think we'll find out more about that tonight!
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Old 26-06-2012, 15:24
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do you i think the same why he got with izzy to get against macs even more
Scott seems so manipulative. He probably saw Izzy as an easy target and used her to get to Macs. I don`t believe that Scott loves her at all.
I noticed last week that Ffion was very uneasy with Scott. She was probably regretting their one night stand when Sioned was in jail last year. And their drinking wine in front of her didn`t help either. I`m glad she resisted the urge to drink after she threw them out.
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Old 26-06-2012, 16:28
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Walovr I am not feeling good about Scott not going to prison. I know Macs is a rape victim and he doesn't want to relive everything in court. But Scott's behavior has put to rest any notion I had that this was about Sioned and Macs taunting him or what Macs did to Izzy. What is going to happen to the next person who gets Scott angry. Or to Macs if Scott in his sick mind thinks whatever his problems are Macs caused them. Would he come back to torture him some more.
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Old 26-06-2012, 17:19
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does anyone know how long scott is staying for
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Old 26-06-2012, 17:45
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Walovr I am not feeling good about Scott not going to prison. I know Macs is a rape victim and he doesn't want to relive everything in court. But Scott's behavior has put to rest any notion I had that this was about Sioned and Macs taunting him or what Macs did to Izzy. What is going to happen to the next person who gets Scott angry. Or to Macs if Scott in his sick mind thinks whatever his problems are Macs caused them. Would he come back to torture him some more.
Beautifully put.My thoughts exactly sderr (as always).
Even if Scott gets arrested, its a case of he said/he said. There is no physical evidence, no DNA evidence.
Scott just being there is torture for poor Macs....especially when Scott lied to Izzy, and now Izzy thinks Macs is a liar. Scott made it seem that Macs is a lover scorned.
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Old 26-06-2012, 18:10
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Oww the new PYC spoilers look very interesting. Looks like the Gwyneth stuff heats up from the 9th

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