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I am thinking of upgrading my HD ready tv to a full HD tv.
Will I notice the difference? Current model is Phillips 32PFL7762 50HZ. The feed is a Samsung Virgin Media V+ box at 1080i. |
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I upgraded from a 40" 1080i/720p to a 50" 1080p and when using it at 1080p (Bluray/PS3/360) the difference is negligible, regardless of what some might say. Still nice to have 1080p though.
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You won't notice any difference as full HD of 1080p is only available from Bluray.
Broadcast HD is 1080i and that's most likely what you are currently watching and will still be watching with a full hd tv too. |
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There is a difference in resolution between your current TV and a full HD set. Whether it will be noticeable or not is another matter. If you sit 10 feet or so away from a 32in screen you may struggle to see what the difference is.
If you also increased screen size to say 40 inch or even bigger then you might notice it more. |
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You won't notice any difference as full HD of 1080p is only available from Bluray.
Broadcast HD is 1080i and that's most likely what you are currently watching and will still be watching with a full hd tv too. Moving from an HD Ready set to a Full HD one makes very little difference, and you would need to view from even closer to see it. Assuming you buy a better quality Full HD set, then you will see an improvement over your old set, but you would buying a better HD Ready set as well. |
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1080i is exactly the same resolution as 1080P, BOTH are Full HD.
Moving from an HD Ready set to a Full HD one makes very little difference, and you would need to view from even closer to see it. Assuming you buy a better quality Full HD set, then you will see an improvement over your old set, but you would buying a better HD Ready set as well. Please post me a link to ANY tv set advertised as Full HD that is not 1080p An HD Ready set may be 720 only. But assuming he has 1080i now , he will still be watching that when he buys a 1080p set if he's only viewing broadcast HD |
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There is a difference in resolution between your current TV and a full HD set. .
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1080i is exactly the same resolution as 1080P, BOTH are Full HD.
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The model quoted has a display panel of 1366 x 768 pixels, so regardless of the argument, a full HD panel will display 1920 x 1080 and will look better.
Make your own mind up. I'm typing this on a 15.6" laptop screen with 1920x1200 pixels and notice the difference at 2ft viewing distance. |
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Which makes which bit of my previous post wrong?
Please post me a link to ANY tv set advertised as Full HD that is not 1080p An HD Ready set may be 720 only. But assuming he has 1080i now , he will still be watching that when he buys a 1080p set if he's only viewing broadcast HD ![]() When he buys Full HD TV it will have 1920 x 1080 resolution, and the signal will require no vertical scaling.
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He may well be watching a 1080i signal now, but that is being downscaled to fit on his 1366 x 768 resolution TV.
![]() When he buys Full HD TV it will have 1920 x 1080 resolution, and the signal will require no vertical scaling. ![]() |
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I am thinking of upgrading my HD ready tv to a full HD tv.
Will I notice the difference? Current model is Phillips 32PFL7762 50HZ. The feed is a Samsung Virgin Media V+ box at 1080i. No. The 1080p viewing distance for a 32" is basically sitting with your knees touching the tv stand, it is essentially a tv size that has no optimal distance, it is nothing but compromise. 32" is a nice size for a larger computer monitor in other words, sitting from 6-8 feet, there is no point upgrading it. http://myhometheater.homestead.com/v...alculator.html |
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Which makes which bit of my previous post wrong?
Please post me a link to ANY tv set advertised as Full HD that is not 1080p An HD Ready set may be 720 only. But assuming he has 1080i now , he will still be watching that when he buys a 1080p set if he's only viewing broadcast HD |
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When 1920 x 1080 Full HD displays first came on the market the majority did only 1080i. 1080p was very rare and expensive and 1080p24 capability even rarer.
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As far as I'm aware the only Sony 1080P model initially was the KDL40W2000, which was available for an unusually long time. I'm not even sure if it did 1080P24 or not?.
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We have a difference of opinion here.
I was referring to the difference in resolution between a HD ready display with 768 vertical pixels and a Full HD display with 1080 vertical pixels. Nigel was referring to the difference between 1080i and 1080p which in terms of number of pixels is nothing. So no clash between those two statements at all. |
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As far as I'm aware the only Sony 1080P model initially was the KDL40W2000, which was available for an unusually long time. I'm not even sure if it did 1080P24 or not?.
Cheers, Mike. |
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You won't notice any difference as full HD of 1080p is only available from Bluray.
Broadcast HD is 1080i and that's most likely what you are currently watching and will still be watching with a full hd tv too. Broadcast HD is 1080/50i in the UK which allows 1080/24p content to be carried with flags to tell the TV to decode it appropriately. This is what Sky movies does for example. So the only difference between a Sky Movie and the bluray is bitrate, not that one is 1080i and the other 1080p. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p#Broadcasts Quote:
For material that originated from a progressive scanned 24 frame/s source (such as film), MPEG-2 allows the video to be coded as 1080p24, irrespective of the final output format; these progressively-coded frames are tagged with metadata (literally, fields of the PICTURE header) instructing a decoder how to perform a 3:2 pulldown to interlace them. While the formal output of the MPEG-2 decoding process from such stations is 1080i60, the actual content is coded as 1080p24 and can be viewed as such,
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I am thinking of upgrading my HD ready tv to a full HD tv.
Will I notice the difference? Current model is Phillips 32PFL7762 50HZ. The feed is a Samsung Virgin Media V+ box at 1080i. |
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Blurays are typically 1080/24p
Broadcast HD is 1080/50i in the UK which allows 1080/24p content to be carried with flags to tell the TV to decode it appropriately. This is what Sky movies does for example. So the only difference between a Sky Movie and the bluray is bitrate, not that one is 1080i and the other 1080p. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p#Broadcasts We use 25p-in-50i - this is is trivial to handle correctly, as long as the TV or STB (if it outputs 1080p50) spots it. Most do, but not all. Cheers, David. |
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Many thanks for your replies. I have had my current set for nearly four years. I have been very pleased with the pq after I upgraded to the Virgin V+ HD box last year. I just thought technolgy may have moved on and now may be the time to see if I could get even a better picture with a new 32 inch model that had better processing, backlighting etc..
I am not bothered about 3D or internet tv being included as I can already access that via my Sony BDP. On balance and taking into account the majority of opinions I think I will hang onto my pennies. |
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Sorry loz, but your link is irrelevant to the UK. It's for USA 60Hz broadcasts, not UK 50Hz ones.
We use 25p-in-50i - this is is trivial to handle correctly, as long as the TV or STB (if it outputs 1080p50) spots it. Most do, but not all. ![]() (Sorry for mixing up the numbers, laziness on my part )But the principle is the same, as you point out, that progressive material can be broadcast in a interlaced stream |
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