New Sonys

allybalder · 03-03-2011, 15:43

Local Sony centre tell me there will be a new TV range before the end of the month
Do we go for a discounted old model or wait for the new ones?
I presume all manufacturers renew around this time of year?

niall campbell · 03-03-2011, 16:03

Pannasonic bringing out new models too

G 30 series will play Divxplus

hopefully G 20 will get software updates as well

as long as you can get Freeview HD !! I wonder how the Southern Ireland broadcasting joinging forces with British goes with new Sonys ?

Nigel Goodwin · 03-03-2011, 16:06

Different manufacturers release new models at different times, but Sony are usually end of March/beginning of April.

We had a big load of new KDL32CX250's delivered yesterday, I don't know if we've got them on display yet - I managed to avoid carrying them

Apparently they only have one SCART, but that was pretty well expected.

iangrad · 03-03-2011, 16:33

Panasonic "G" & "D" series are having a over the air software update this week but hasn't changed anything in the menu's or altered the performance . Does anyone know what its for ?

Ian

allybalder · 03-03-2011, 16:48

nigel
search for KDL32CX250 - no results?

niall campbell · 03-03-2011, 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by iangrad

Panasonic "G" & "D" series are having a over the air software update this week but hasn't changed anything in the menu's or altered the performance . Does anyone know what its for ?

Ian

I got it, but no idea what for

hardeep · 03-03-2011, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by allybalder

nigel
search for KDL32CX250 - no results?

If you search for KDL32CX you get a lot of hits for european CX models 520 & 525.

Not too much to go on but some sites list features such LED Edge backlighting and interestingly USB recording - possibly likes Panny's effort on last years '20 series models.

scumble · 03-03-2011, 18:32

Do the Panny G and D series TVs have that horrible Guide Plus EPG that you can't change?

Nigel Goodwin · 03-03-2011, 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by allybalder

nigel
search for KDL32CX250 - no results?

It's the new model - possibly no results as it's not released until later this month?.

I only read the labels on the boxes, then ran off before I got collared to help shift them

I'll see tomorrow if they have any out on display yet, but they may have been stock ready for a forthcoming launch?.

I've just checked at Sony.uk and they still list only the old models, EX series etc.

Nigel Goodwin · 03-03-2011, 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by scumble

Do the Panny G and D series TVs have that horrible Guide Plus EPG that you can't change?

As far as I know all Panasonics use only the GuidePlus EPG

janet owen · 04-03-2011, 07:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

As far as I know all Panasonics use only the GuidePlus EPG

correct, the most awful part of owning a Panasonic,Guideplus
its like a virus on DVB, thank goodness most have freesat to avoid this abomination

JO

Nigel Goodwin · 04-03-2011, 09:10

I've been and checked in the shop, they aren't out on display yet.

EDIT:

Just checked Sony Assist, I made a mistake on the number, it's 520 not 250, and the manual covers models:

KDL32CX520/521/523/525

KDL46CX520/525

Under that number you can find it:

http://www.sony.co.uk/product/t32-cx...s/kdl32cx520bu

soulboy77 · 04-03-2011, 11:18

I see the new Sonys are Skype enabled with the add on camera / microphone bar accessory.

Nigel Goodwin · 05-03-2011, 10:26

I had a look on the back of one (they are out on display now), no phono audio out (but a 3.5mm stereo jack for headphones or audio out), only a singls SCART, and a USB socket labeled to connect an external HDD to.

gomezz · 05-03-2011, 18:59

Optical audio out?

Nigel Goodwin · 05-03-2011, 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomezz

Optical audio out?

Yes it has, I was only listing the differences..

gomezz · 05-03-2011, 20:48

I am not familiar with Sony model specs so I thought it was something that needed clarifying. The lack of phono out is a big fail for those of us who like to listen to music programmes on our hi-fi rather than through our AV system.

Nigel Goodwin · 06-03-2011, 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomezz

I am not familiar with Sony model specs so I thought it was something that needed clarifying. The lack of phono out is a big fail for those of us who like to listen to music programmes on our hi-fi rather than through our AV system.

It's still there, but as I mentioned it's via a 3.5mm jack not phonos - which is a shame.

gomezz · 06-03-2011, 11:40

That still would not work for me as I like to have my wireless headphones base station permanently connected to the headphone jack. But I guess if I were to ever replace my aging Denon AV amp for a more modern one that would give me the connectivity I need as I presume the TV's (1.4?) HDMI connection feeds back the TV audio to the amp? At present I use my TV to act as a switch for my various analogue audio recorders with only my two digital audio sources connected direct to the amp.

AlanO · 06-03-2011, 21:20

I guess a more interesting question would be how many of this year's crop are designed and built by Sony and how many are being "outsourced" to Beko et al.

Nigel Goodwin · 06-03-2011, 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanO

I guess a more interesting question would be how many of this year's crop are designed and built by Sony and how many are being "outsourced" to Beko et al.

Presumably very little, just as before.

Certainly the 32CX520 and the 46EX720 (I think that's the number) look to be Sony sets.

Incidently the 46EX720 is a 'super slim' LED set, but has the stupid 'feature' that the bottom part of the set sticks out at the back so you can mount it close to the wall (as the earlier LED sets did - the later ones had flat backs). But even worse, the aerial socket and SCART socket stick directly out from the back (not recessed at all) - so you've got to space it well off the wall, rather negating any advantage of it been thin.

Makes you wonder what idiots design these things?

AlanO · 06-03-2011, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

Presumably very little, just as before.

Certainly the 32CX520 and the 46EX720 (I think that's the number) look to be Sony sets.

Incidently the 46EX720 is a 'super slim' LED set, but has the stupid 'feature' that the bottom part of the set sticks out at the back so you can mount it close to the wall (as the earlier LED sets did - the later ones had flat backs). But even worse, the aerial socket and SCART socket stick directly out from the back (not recessed at all) - so you've got to space it well off the wall, rather negating any advantage of it been thin.

Makes you wonder what idiots design these things?

I'd expect more, not less, outsourcing as Sony tries to make its TV division profitable again. I thought they were selling off some of their manufacturing capacity?

In terms of the dumb placement of socketry - quite agree, that, together with badly placed / difficult to read labelling (think raised black text on black plastic) really is inexcusable and just laziness on the part of the designers.

Nigel Goodwin · 07-03-2011, 08:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanO

I'd expect more, not less, outsourcing as Sony tries to make its TV division profitable again. I thought they were selling off some of their manufacturing capacity?

I believe they have, but making Sony TV's in the same factory using the same Sony production line with the same Sony parts is still a Sony TV

03-03-2011, 15:43	#1
allybalder Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lisburn, N. Ireland Posts: 135	New Sonys Local Sony centre tell me there will be a new TV range before the end of the month Do we go for a discounted old model or wait for the new ones? I presume all manufacturers renew around this time of year?

03-03-2011, 16:03	#2
niall campbell Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aberfeldy Posts: 7,035	Pannasonic bringing out new models too G 30 series will play Divxplus hopefully G 20 will get software updates as well as long as you can get Freeview HD !! I wonder how the Southern Ireland broadcasting joinging forces with British goes with new Sonys ?

03-03-2011, 16:06	#3
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Different manufacturers release new models at different times, but Sony are usually end of March/beginning of April. We had a big load of new KDL32CX250's delivered yesterday, I don't know if we've got them on display yet - I managed to avoid carrying them Apparently they only have one SCART, but that was pretty well expected.

03-03-2011, 16:33	#4
iangrad Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 772	Panasonic "G" & "D" series are having a over the air software update this week but hasn't changed anything in the menu's or altered the performance . Does anyone know what its for ? Ian

03-03-2011, 16:48	#5
allybalder Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lisburn, N. Ireland Posts: 135	nigel search for KDL32CX250 - no results?

03-03-2011, 17:44	#6
niall campbell Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aberfeldy Posts: 7,035	Quote: Originally Posted by iangrad Panasonic "G" & "D" series are having a over the air software update this week but hasn't changed anything in the menu's or altered the performance . Does anyone know what its for ? Ian I got it, but no idea what for

03-03-2011, 18:26	#7
hardeep Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 2,163	Quote: Originally Posted by allybalder nigel search for KDL32CX250 - no results? If you search for KDL32CX you get a lot of hits for european CX models 520 & 525. Not too much to go on but some sites list features such LED Edge backlighting and interestingly USB recording - possibly likes Panny's effort on last years '20 series models.

03-03-2011, 18:32	#8
scumble Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 918	Do the Panny G and D series TVs have that horrible Guide Plus EPG that you can't change?

03-03-2011, 19:35	#9
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by allybalder nigel search for KDL32CX250 - no results? It's the new model - possibly no results as it's not released until later this month?. I only read the labels on the boxes, then ran off before I got collared to help shift them I'll see tomorrow if they have any out on display yet, but they may have been stock ready for a forthcoming launch?. I've just checked at Sony.uk and they still list only the old models, EX series etc.

03-03-2011, 19:35	#10
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by scumble Do the Panny G and D series TVs have that horrible Guide Plus EPG that you can't change? As far as I know all Panasonics use only the GuidePlus EPG

04-03-2011, 07:59	#11
janet owen Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Gwynfryn,Wrexham 1350ASL Posts: 1,960	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin As far as I know all Panasonics use only the GuidePlus EPG correct, the most awful part of owning a Panasonic,Guideplus its like a virus on DVB, thank goodness most have freesat to avoid this abomination JO

04-03-2011, 09:10	#12
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	I've been and checked in the shop, they aren't out on display yet. EDIT: Just checked Sony Assist, I made a mistake on the number, it's 520 not 250, and the manual covers models: KDL32CX520/521/523/525 KDL46CX520/525 Under that number you can find it: http://www.sony.co.uk/product/t32-cx...s/kdl32cx520bu

04-03-2011, 11:18	#13
soulboy77 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Herts Posts: 17,005	I see the new Sonys are Skype enabled with the add on camera / microphone bar accessory.

05-03-2011, 10:26	#14
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	I had a look on the back of one (they are out on display now), no phono audio out (but a 3.5mm stereo jack for headphones or audio out), only a singls SCART, and a USB socket labeled to connect an external HDD to.

05-03-2011, 18:59	#15
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	Optical audio out?

05-03-2011, 20:18	#16
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by gomezz Optical audio out? Yes it has, I was only listing the differences..

05-03-2011, 20:48	#17
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	I am not familiar with Sony model specs so I thought it was something that needed clarifying. The lack of phono out is a big fail for those of us who like to listen to music programmes on our hi-fi rather than through our AV system.

06-03-2011, 11:18	#18
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by gomezz I am not familiar with Sony model specs so I thought it was something that needed clarifying. The lack of phono out is a big fail for those of us who like to listen to music programmes on our hi-fi rather than through our AV system. It's still there, but as I mentioned it's via a 3.5mm jack not phonos - which is a shame.

06-03-2011, 11:40	#19
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	That still would not work for me as I like to have my wireless headphones base station permanently connected to the headphone jack. But I guess if I were to ever replace my aging Denon AV amp for a more modern one that would give me the connectivity I need as I presume the TV's (1.4?) HDMI connection feeds back the TV audio to the amp? At present I use my TV to act as a switch for my various analogue audio recorders with only my two digital audio sources connected direct to the amp.

06-03-2011, 21:20	#20
AlanO Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,902	I guess a more interesting question would be how many of this year's crop are designed and built by Sony and how many are being "outsourced" to Beko et al.

06-03-2011, 21:44	#21
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by AlanO I guess a more interesting question would be how many of this year's crop are designed and built by Sony and how many are being "outsourced" to Beko et al. Presumably very little, just as before. Certainly the 32CX520 and the 46EX720 (I think that's the number) look to be Sony sets. Incidently the 46EX720 is a 'super slim' LED set, but has the stupid 'feature' that the bottom part of the set sticks out at the back so you can mount it close to the wall (as the earlier LED sets did - the later ones had flat backs). But even worse, the aerial socket and SCART socket stick directly out from the back (not recessed at all) - so you've got to space it well off the wall, rather negating any advantage of it been thin. Makes you wonder what idiots design these things?

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06-03-2011, 22:03	#22
AlanO Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,902	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin Presumably very little, just as before. Certainly the 32CX520 and the 46EX720 (I think that's the number) look to be Sony sets. Incidently the 46EX720 is a 'super slim' LED set, but has the stupid 'feature' that the bottom part of the set sticks out at the back so you can mount it close to the wall (as the earlier LED sets did - the later ones had flat backs). But even worse, the aerial socket and SCART socket stick directly out from the back (not recessed at all) - so you've got to space it well off the wall, rather negating any advantage of it been thin. Makes you wonder what idiots design these things? I'd expect more, not less, outsourcing as Sony tries to make its TV division profitable again. I thought they were selling off some of their manufacturing capacity? In terms of the dumb placement of socketry - quite agree, that, together with badly placed / difficult to read labelling (think raised black text on black plastic) really is inexcusable and just laziness on the part of the designers.

07-03-2011, 08:40	#23
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by AlanO I'd expect more, not less, outsourcing as Sony tries to make its TV division profitable again. I thought they were selling off some of their manufacturing capacity? I believe they have, but making Sony TV's in the same factory using the same Sony production line with the same Sony parts is still a Sony TV