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Emmerdale - The Aaron Livesy Story [SPOILERS - Part 31]
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dee22Éire
09-03-2011
Belated congrats on part 31 although judging by how dead it is....maybe someone should call 999

Originally Posted by FarmGirl:
“Hi,

On another note, not sure if it is someone on here or not but I've just read the latest chapter of 'Moving on' - whoever writes it please update as soon as you are able, I'm loving the story so far! (I know a couple of v. talented fic writers on here - realise you are busy in the RW so trying not to pester you guys as much )”

Originally Posted by JustBetter:
“BIB - Yeah they've got to give us something happy. I'll take anything.

Don't know who writes Moving on but it's a great fic ”


Just caught up on the posts (all two pages). Moving On is actually my fic, and I'll update it as soon as I figure out what to do with it -Sorry don't usually talk about my fics on here, it's a bit embarrassing()...but just coz ye were asking I thought I'd make the exception x


EDIT - Oh would you look at that - Page 3! It's banging in here now
sheepiefarm
09-03-2011
Top posters for part 30


Melephunk2010 223
grumple 207
Sam'sWish 157
Sun_Beam 154
Hi-peeps 154
ginni 142
sheepiefarm 118
mpond 118
JustBetter 117
Mongodude 110
andy614 101
curlypubes 89
*PennyCrayon* 84
WILLIAMSRENAULT 83
jude007 77
Tiger Lily 66
pinna65 60
Whitesmith 56
AnnieK24601 54
Den23 54
Urbanlady 50
FarmGirl 48
crusty77 45
WhiteCat 45
KathySpark 43
clerky 43
marlon38 39
lovinjon 37
happy2feet 34
Anti Static 34
Faggy 33
dee22Éire 25
Ooo I say 22
Eleven_Eleven 21
Dazz78 20
missy87 18
toccylad 17
germanjudith 17
shedseven 11
cherrytops(82) 10
ChaosMarine 8
soapiefan 8
lucie84 7
Hound of Love 7
devon-maid 7
defizr 7
Angelwave 6
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JustBetter
09-03-2011
Originally Posted by dee22Éire:
“Just caught up on the posts (all two pages). Moving On is actually my fic, and I'll update it as soon as I figure out what to do with it -Sorry don't usually talk about my fics on here, it's a bit embarrassing()...but just coz ye were asking I thought I'd make the exception x


EDIT - Oh would you look at that - Page 3! It's banging in here now”

Oh thank god the thread finally moved on to page three. We might even move to page four by the end of the week if were lucky Thanks Dee I really love all your fics, your a great writer
Sam'sWish
09-03-2011
Originally Posted by JustBetter:
“Oh thank god the thread finally moved on to page three. We might even move to page four by the end of the week if were lucky Thanks Dee I really love all your fics, your a great writer ”

Part 32 might come sometime before Jackson leaves.

Why are they killing one of their best characters? Oh yeah...cause they're stupid.
AnnieK24601
09-03-2011
Originally Posted by Melephunk2010:
“Think i may make this my final post on here for a while....

I honestly dont believe Danny will follow Marc, going by what he'ss aid in interviews and has normally responded on twitter with: "Im not going anywhere" when a fan asks him if hes leaving....

As for the storyline, ive got used to it. I lost faith in Aarson long befoire the train hit, and oinly got into ED cause of Danny/Aaron anyway, so the s/l isnt really depressing me, Its the thread more than anything, Negative post after negative post...ok yes some dont want it to happen, but it has cast a huge black cloud over the thread now, and i think reading continous depressing posts is what is making me want to take a break from the forum.

I'm not returning to the bubble either, we saw this coming ages ago, as soon as we found out about the tetraplegia, Euthanasia was a very strong talking point for thread 13. Now it's happening, everyone's going crazy.

I know peple are as entitled to hate it, im not saying you aren't...But this is my opinon, we have to get used to it, the more the storyline gets ignored, the more people dont wanna believe it, the harder its going to be when it does happen.

So yeah, until this thread starts going back to how it used to be, without as much depression, I wont be coming back.

Nice chatting to you ”

Mel, if you're still lurking, please don't take this the wrong way, but I don't remember many of your recent posts being really upbeat either. The fact is the storyline is depressing and therefore I think it is perfectly understandable that on topic posts would reflect that. Maybe that's just me though. Blame TPTB not the posters.

Originally Posted by sheepiefarm:
“From tvtv website

Mon 21 mar
Jerry asks Jackson to be Josh's godfather, but is upset by his reaction

Tue 22 mar
Aaron accuses Jackson of being selfish

Wed 23 mar
Jackson agrees to be Josh's godfather”

Thanks sheepie. I agree with Mono..., it's a bit odd to ask a child's half brother to be his godfather but that's soap for you!!

Originally Posted by Anti Static:
“Here's the direct link to the Boston Herald page

I was also going to put up the list of top posters from part 30 seeing as no one else has done so yet, but I've forgotten how to do it! ”

Hi Anti - not 'seen' you around for a while. Hope all is good with you.

Originally Posted by dee22Éire:
“Belated congrats on part 31 although judging by how dead it is....maybe someone should call 999
/...”

Hi Dee - not 'seen' you around much either so good to know that you are OK. Recent news and spoilers have seemed to have zapped the life out of the thread.

Aarson are back tomorrow - it will be interesting to see who can summon up the energy or interest to post!
JustBetter
09-03-2011
Originally Posted by Sam'sWish:
“Part 32 might come sometime before Jackson leaves.

Why are they killing one of their best characters? Oh yeah...cause they're stupid.”

You've summed it up in one Sam! They should never have done this to him in the first place, I know Marc has been acting his socks off with it and is doing a brilliant job playing a tetraplegic but it's not been worth it in the end as it's led to him being bumped off altogether
Sam'sWish
09-03-2011
Originally Posted by AnnieK24601:
“Mel, if you're still lurking, please don't take this the wrong way, but I don't remember many of your recent posts being really upbeat either. The fact is the storyline is depressing and therefore I think it is perfectly understandable that on topic posts would reflect that. Maybe that's just me though. Blame TPTB not the posters.



Thanks sheepie. I agree with Mono..., it's a bit odd to ask a child's half brother to be his godfather but that's soap for you!!



Hi Anti - not 'seen' you around for a while. Hope all is good with you.


Hi Dee - not 'seen' you around much either so good to know that you are OK. Recent news and spoilers have seemed to have zapped the life out of the thread.

Aarson are back tomorrow - it will be interesting to see who can summon up the energy or interest to post!
”

BIB - I agree with this. She has had more depressing posts than most. After all, she was top poster last round and they weren't all 'upbeat' posts.

Pot, Kettle springs to mind with that one.
germanjudith
09-03-2011
Just found a German interview with Danny... worth a read...

Q. Do you think Aaron will approach his relationship with Flynn any differently to the way he approached the one with Jackson?
DM: “No, because I think whatever happens in his life, Aaron will always be that same closed-off person. He doesn’t really do anything that anyone wants him to do. We’ll see – only time will tell and different things will happen over the next year which you’ll see on screen, especially towards April. Hopefully we’ll keep the interest of the audience and give them some bigger and better stuff this year!”

The full interview from Jan 2011 is here
germanjudith
09-03-2011
Originally Posted by Anti Static:
“Here's the direct link to the Boston Herald page”

Good for Marc. Got to love him

The spoilers are deeply depressing... and boring too if I'm honest. I've just about had enough (though I'll no doubt keep watching )

I think I might just cry tears of relief when it's over!!
Anti Static
09-03-2011
OK, in an attempt to provoke a bit of debate, can I ask an honest question to those who are strongly opposed to the AS storyline...

Is your opinion based more on the fact that it's Jackson this is happening to, or is it that you really don't think this is the sort of subject that should be touched by a soap? For instance, if it was Alan Turner or Mia Macey in the chair, would you still feel as strongly against it as you do now?

Not trying to trick anyone, just trying to revive the thread a little bit and at the same time get an understanding as to why people are so polarised in their views.

JustBetter
09-03-2011
Honestly, for me it's not just because of Jackson. I just think it's wrong full stop. It would be different if he was actually dying, its the fact that he could live a longer and happier life with the right care.
grumple
09-03-2011
Originally Posted by Anti Static:
“OK, in an attempt to provoke a bit of debate, can I ask an honest question to those who are strongly opposed to the AS storyline...

Is your opinion based more on the fact that it's Jackson this is happening to, or is it that you really don't think this is the sort of subject that should be touched by a soap? For instance, if it was Alan Turner or Mia Macey in the chair, would you still feel as strongly against it as you do now?

Not trying to trick anyone, just trying to revive the thread a little bit and at the same time get an understanding as to why people are so polarised in their views.

”

I honestly don't think i would agree with the AS thing no matter who it was. I think they should explore it buy not go through with it. I had no problem with the AS plot they did before though but in my mind they are completely different as Jackson isn't dying.
I don't think tgat depression is a reason to end sonrbody's life and they haven't given Jackson nearly enough support or time for him to make his decision.
I've said before that although the outcome would still be tge same and it would still be miserable, but I would have preferred him to die of natural causes linked to his condition.
I also think that it would have been a great story if Emmerdale had been brave enough to show a story about someone coming to terms with such devastating injuries and getting on with their life.
I would ramble more but I'm too tired.
Melephunk2010
09-03-2011
Originally Posted by AnnieK24601:
“Mel, if you're still lurking, please don't take this the wrong way, but I don't remember many of your recent posts being really upbeat either. The fact is the storyline is depressing and therefore I think it is perfectly understandable that on topic posts would reflect that. Maybe that's just me though. Blame TPTB not the posters.”

I am still lurking yes, but felt the need to reply to you.

Firstly - i never said i was blaming anyone. I am merely voicing my opinon.

Secondly - I understand the route they have chosen is depressing, and im not saying people have got to stop posting what they feel, personally for me, it's that little bit too depressing.

Thirdly - i know SOME of my posts havent been all that upbeat, but with all the depression on the thread of late, it wouldnt really make a difference to the general mood if i'd posted something happy. which is the reason why i feel i need to talke a break from the forum.

Cant remember who said it, but i cant see the thread dying with Jackson....considering this isnt Jackson's thread....
AbbieCat
09-03-2011
Originally Posted by Anti Static:
“OK, in an attempt to provoke a bit of debate, can I ask an honest question to those who are strongly opposed to the AS storyline...

Is your opinion based more on the fact that it's Jackson this is happening to, or is it that you really don't think this is the sort of subject that should be touched by a soap? For instance, if it was Alan Turner or Mia Macey in the chair, would you still feel as strongly against it as you do now?

Not trying to trick anyone, just trying to revive the thread a little bit and at the same time get an understanding as to why people are so polarised in their views.

”

Evening All. I always lurk but will miss the thread if it fizzles out so thought I'd post.

I think I am more opposed to the fact that it is happening to Jackson more so than happening at all. If they wanted to go down this route with any other character (and they gave it a decent enough time to seem realistic) I think it could be a really powerful storyline.

What upsets me is that Jackson and Aaron started off so well and that scene at Smithy Cottage when they first got together was incredible. So many people devoted themselves to The s/l and it got so much recognition. It is like TPTB panicked under pressure and didn't know what to do. I hate that they have done this to a gay couple. Not because it couldn't happen to a gay couple bit it seems a cop out and I don't know why they can't have a strong stable gay couple whose relationship is like any other. Up, down, good, bad etc. They didn't need the crash or AS or anything. The fact they were willing to explore a young (non-typical) gay relationship was enough. We could have seen them grow as a couple and face so many more hurdles and they could have even broken up at the end but this just seems so wrong.

I am totally going off on a tangent but I guess t is because hey are doing it to Jackson is what gets me. Imagine if they had done it to David and Leyla. Would be heartbreaking but would work as it would focus on the issue of AS instead of they way they have made it a rushed conclusion in the s/l.
Sorry! Will stop now.
clerky
09-03-2011
Seeing as the A/S story is going ahead I really hope that ED make it as realistic as possible. Once it is handled with sensitivity and not sensationalised I have no problem with it. I know people are unhappy about the way things are going at the moment but I'd hope that some peoples opinions may have changed by the end of it. It's an emotive subject and peoples views are very varied with no definite wrong or right answer.
My liking for Jackson as a character and Marc as an actor probably did cloud my opinion for a while. As you mentioned Anti I probably wouldn't be fussed if someone like Dermot Macey was the subject of the storyline.
ginni
09-03-2011
Originally Posted by Anti Static:
“OK, in an attempt to provoke a bit of debate, can I ask an honest question to those who are strongly opposed to the AS storyline...

Is your opinion based more on the fact that it's Jackson this is happening to, or is it that you really don't think this is the sort of subject that should be touched by a soap? For instance, if it was Alan Turner or Mia Macey in the chair, would you still feel as strongly against it as you do now?

Not trying to trick anyone, just trying to revive the thread a little bit and at the same time get an understanding as to why people are so polarised in their views.

”


I think a lot of the problems with Jackson is the timing, its all too fast, and we've been shown nothing that's being done to help Jackson come to terms his situation, and not even told that things are going on off screen; like even if he's on antidepressants. And I think I would dilike A/S for any character in this situation; I think that Alice and Sam a couple of years ago, was different, more understandable, with her illness.

From the spoilers, it all seems to begin next week, but has anything actually been confirmed about the final outcome or is that still all speculation?
JustBetter
09-03-2011
Welcome to the thread Abbiecat
AbbieCat
09-03-2011
And I agree with Grumple. AS due to depression and one part time carer with no time at all to adjust is so unrealsitic. Just as unrealistic as giving him movement back so re-write the scripts and fix this!
AbbieCat
09-03-2011
Originally Posted by JustBetter:
“Welcome to the thread Abbiecat ”

Thanks for having me!
sheepiefarm
09-03-2011
Originally Posted by AbbieCat:
“Thanks for having me!”

In the olden days, that might have illicited a smutty response - but I'm a good boy - so I'll just say "Yay - 2 posts - that's double your amount on part 30"
AbbieCat
09-03-2011
[quote=ginni;48666487]I think a lot of the problems with Jackson is the timing, its all too fast, and we've been shown nothing that's being done to help Jackson come to terms his situation, and not even told that things are going on off screen; like even if he's on antidepressants. And I think I would dilike A/S for any character in this situation; I think that Alice and Sam a couple of years ago, was different, more understandable, with her illness.

From the spoilers, it all seems to begin next week, but has anything actually been confirmed about the final outcome or is that still all speculation?[/QUOTE]

Don't think it has been confirmed. Is there any chance they explore this, don't go ahead with it and they announce Marc is staying? They can't announce he is staying yet as it will ruin the s/l. Wishful thinking...?
AbbieCat
09-03-2011
Originally Posted by sheepiefarm:
“In the olden days, that might have illicited a smutty response - but I'm a good boy - so I'll just say "Yay - 2 posts - that's double your amount on part 30" ”

Oh dear! I'll watch how I phrase things.
sheepiefarm
09-03-2011
Originally Posted by ginni:
“From the spoilers, it all seems to begin next week, but has anything actually been confirmed about the final outcome or is that still all speculation?”

My take on things at the moment is that, with the spoilers about Aaron telling Jackson he's being selfish & Jackson subsequently agreeing to be his step-brothers godfather - we might see Jackson rally for a while / make an effort (we still have restaurant & football stuff to come yet).
Then we might see Jackson starting to come to his decision that this is not the kind of life he wants.
Whitesmith
09-03-2011
My thoughts are confused and contradictory at the best of times with this story so I'm gonna try my best and make sense of them as I write this.

I think for me, it's a bit of both. I'd be hugely deluded if I said i'd feel like this if it was another couple and another character rather than Jackson that this was happening to.

As well as how hard-hitting and personal the coming out and subsequent growing relationships around Aaron effected me, I also think that it's simply more of an issue to me that it's happening to Aaron and Jackson because they're the only reason I watch Emmerdale. I don't even bother to tune in when I know they aren't going to be on. (Spoiilers come in handy for some things...)

Good question btw Anti!

Without the wider scope of the rest of the soap to break my mild obsession up, the depression seems more focused and more relentless.

I've banged on enough times about how much I love (and owe to) this storyline and I've also banged on enough about where I feel it has gone wrong and how I feel TPTB have lost control.

Saying that, I do think progressing with the A/S storyline in such a way as it seems it is going is disturbing and disrespectful. Like grumps said, Jackson's situation is a fantastic opportunity for TPTB to explore A/S issues and show how they can be overcome and how people with tetraplegia can go on to live happy, healthy lives. Timings and facts with how Emmerdale seem to be handling it leave a lot more to be desired however.

If i remove my Team Aarson rose tinted specs, I'd have no issue with Emmerdale exploring issues surrounding A/S, just as long as they are done to a positive, educational conclusion. Sadly, all sources seem to be pointing in the opposite direction.

I really hope that makes sense. Phewf.
clerky
09-03-2011
Originally Posted by Whitesmith:
“My thoughts are confused and contradictory at the best of times with this story so I'm gonna try my best and make sense of them as I write this.

I think for me, it's a bit of both. I'd be hugely deluded if I said i'd feel like this if it was another couple and another character rather than Jackson that this was happening to.

As well as how hard-hitting and personal the coming out and subsequent growing relationships around Aaron effected me, I also think that it's simply more of an issue to me that it's happening to Aaron and Jackson because they're the only reason I watch Emmerdale. I don't even bother to tune in when I know they aren't going to be on. (Spoiilers come in handy for some things...)

Without the wider scope of the rest of the soap to break my mild obsession up, the depression seems more focused and more relentless.

I've banged on enough times about how much I love (and owe to) this storyline and I've also banged on enough about where I feel it has gone wrong and how I feel TPTB have lost control.

Saying that, I do think progressing with the A/S storyline in such a way as it seems it is going is disturbing and disrespectful. Like grumps said, Jackson's situation is a fantastic opportunity for TPTB to explore A/S issues and show how they can be overcome and how people with tetraplegia can go on to live happy, healthy lives. Timings and facts with how Emmerdale seem to be handling it leave a lot more to be desired however.

If i remove my Team Aarson rose tinted specs, I'd have no issue with Emmerdale exploring issues surrounding A/S, just as long as they are done to a positive, educational conclusion. Sadly, all sources seem to be pointing in the opposite direction.

I really hope that makes sense. Phewf.”

BIB I wouldn't worry about that. I feel like I'm contradicting myself every time I try to say something about this storyline. I even worry that something I'm posting might be the exact opposite to what I've said in an earlier post. My thoughts about where this is going aren't always consistant and can change depending on my mood.
Last edited by clerky : 09-03-2011 at 23:01
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