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What frequency ?
bsw
10-03-2011
Can someone please tell me the frequency of the 1080i signal output by the Foxsat HDR ?

Thanks

bsw
gomezz
10-03-2011
Do you mean over its HDMI output?
grahamlthompson
10-03-2011
Not sure why you would want this info

However max pixel frequency for hdmi 1.3 is here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-De...edia_Interface

or do you mean the highest frequency receivable by the tuners (not related to HD or SD)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_band
bsw
10-03-2011
Sorry, yes I do mean over HDMI.

The reason I want to know is this. I have built an HTPC and the SD picture quality is not as good as from the HDR. I can alter the output from my Graphics card so I reason that if I can set it up as the HDR then if it isn't as good there must be another reason. At the moment I'm not sure that it's just that I haven't set it right.

Hope that makes sense.

bsw
bsw
10-03-2011
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Not sure why you would want this info

However max pixel frequency for hdmi 1.3 is here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-De...edia_Interface

or do you mean the highest frequency receivable by the tuners (not related to HD or SD)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_band”

Thanks for the links Graham, bit over my head I'm afraid.
grahamlthompson
10-03-2011
Originally Posted by bsw:
“Thanks for the links Graham, bit over my head I'm afraid.”


It sounds as if you are confusing the horizontal refresh rate of the monitor with the frequency used on a hdmi digital interconnect which is related to the amount of data it's transmitting, two different things
bsw
10-03-2011
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“It sounds as if you are confusing the horizontal refresh rate of the monitor with the frequency used on a hdmi digital interconnect which is related to the amount of data it's transmitting, two different things”

Yes I'm sure you're right but if you could please read #4 you would understand what I am trying to do. And any help you could give would be most welcome.

bsw
bsw
10-03-2011
Graham, just a bit more info. I'm viewing the pictures on a Sony KDL-40V4000 which must be pretty similar to your TV I think.
grahamlthompson
10-03-2011
Originally Posted by bsw:
“Yes I'm sure you're right but if you could please read #4 you would understand what I am trying to do. And any help you could give would be most welcome.

bsw”

Normally you would use the highest refresh rate consistant with the resolution that the graphic card and monitor will support. At best the HD signal will only have 1920 x 1080 pixels. What goes to the monitor depends on what the graphics card does to a 720 x 576 (or less) 25fps interlaced source or a 1920 x 1080 or 1440 x 1080 HD source also at 25 fps interlaced. Same applies to a TV the picture depends on what it does with the same source signals.

In general broadcast TV looks better on a TV rather than a PC monitor which is designed to view from a much closer distance.
bsw
10-03-2011
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Normally you would use the highest refresh rate consistant with the resolution that the graphic card and monitor will support. At best the HD signal will only have 1920 x 1080 pixels. What goes to the monitor depends on what the graphics card does to a 720 x 576 (or less) 25fps interlaced source or a 1920 x 1080 or 1440 x 1080 HD source also at 25 fps interlaced. Same applies to a TV the picture depends on what it does with the same source signals.

In general broadcast TV looks better on a TV rather than a PC monitor which is designed to view from a much closer distance.”

Well it's an ATI 5450 card, which I believe is quite a reasonable card and the TV is a Sony KDL-40V400. The card is set to output 1080i50 but the result is not as good as from the HRD and I'm trying to figure out why. 1080p60 or 1080i60 seem to make it slightly worse.
Dan the Van
10-03-2011
1080i / 50Hz input flashes up on my panasonic g20 when I select a HD channel on my HDR, if that helps

Dan.
chrisjr
10-03-2011
Originally Posted by bsw:
“Well it's an ATI 5450 card, which I believe is quite a reasonable card and the TV is a Sony KDL-40V400. The card is set to output 1080i50 but the result is not as good as from the HRD and I'm trying to figure out why. 1080p60 or 1080i60 seem to make it slightly worse.”

I assume that the HTPC has a satellite tuner card on board and you are using the same channel on both it and the Foxsat to compare quality?

If so then there is no reason why the two have to be perfectly identical. There is a shed load of processing that goes on in the electronics between the tuner and the HDMI lead. Unless your HTPC uses exactly the same gubbins as the Foxsat then it is entirely understandable why they should be different.

They are simply processing the data in different ways.
spiney2
11-03-2011
Yup! In fact, the 3 tmds channels on HDMI wd be approx 700 Mhz, each, but as pointed out, this is completely irrelevant.
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