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Foxsat HDR - what mods can be made to the software?
Given that we know it's possible to amend the hdr's software to make it communicate with other network devices, and that this seems to be permissible - are there other mods that would also be possible, at least in theory?
Just as an example, would it be possible to allow the box to ignore the 'data' label on the bbc red button streams, so that they could be set up as non-freesat channels, and recorded? Interesting to know what, if any, other parts of the box are 'customisable' in this way - or is it simply the networking aspect that is 'open'? |
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Blimey - I didn't realise it was that boring / offensive / dumb. I just thought that some of those here with more tech knowledge might have an opinion. Even if it was "Are you completely off your trolley . . .?"
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Given that we know it's possible to amend the hdr's software to make it communicate with other network devices, and that this seems to be permissible - are there other mods that would also be possible, at least in theory?
Just as an example, would it be possible to allow the box to ignore the 'data' label on the bbc red button streams, so that they could be set up as non-freesat channels, and recorded? Interesting to know what, if any, other parts of the box are 'customisable' in this way - or is it simply the networking aspect that is 'open'? I haven't tried it (I'm perfectly happy with Raydon's mod at the moment) as I beleive there were some issues with it regarding failed recordings. I'm sure another thread on this forum has a link to this alternative mod. |
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Blimey - I didn't realise it was that boring / offensive / dumb. I just thought that some of those here with more tech knowledge might have an opinion. Even if it was "Are you completely off your trolley . . .?"
So far extras have been : - Twonky (video streaming) - telnet & ssh (command line access) - mongoose (http server) - ftp - channel editor (allows you to resequence and put non-freesat channels e.g. Sky News on your channel list, has a few issues) I'm also currently testing a housekeeping application that deletes old recordings according to settings made per folder. |
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Just like the busses you wait a while and two turn up at once
![]() Swedish Cook - is the channel editor still causing failed recordings and other odd behaviour? |
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Just like the busses you wait a while and two turn up at once
![]() Swedish Cook - is the channel editor still causing failed recordings and other odd behaviour? I'd like to be able to add Sky News to my freesat channels but doesn't sound worth it yet. |
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I understand failed recordings are not a problem if you set your recording config right but main issue is the updated channel list getting trashed regularly by the HDR.
I'd like to be able to add Sky News to my freesat channels but doesn't sound worth it yet. Woolfynorm
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Presumably if you connect to the box with telnet you might be able to route around and find the recording schedule file (presumably there must always be a completely up to date version on the disk so that the schedule is preserved across power cuts). If one could modify that via an external programme it would be fantastic.
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Presumably if you connect to the box with telnet you might be able to route around and find the recording schedule file (presumably there must always be a completely up to date version on the disk so that the schedule is preserved across power cuts). If one could modify that via an external programme it would be fantastic.
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Thanks chaps - much appreciated. The channel editor sounds interesting, but I'm still building up the courage to try the FTP etc mods, so going near something that the experts think is a little iffy is probably Not A Good Idea.
I do think it's great that people with the expertise try these things out, and then share their work so freely here. Especially when Humax seem to be astonishingly tardy with 'mods' that many would regard as fault rectification - e.g. the ridiculously brief time you get to enter channel numbers, the inability to timer-record non-fs channels, etc., etc. Nevertheless, it's a great bit of kit, v. glad this forum steered me towards the purchase! |
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Presumably if you connect to the box with telnet you might be able to route around and find the recording schedule file (presumably there must always be a completely up to date version on the disk so that the schedule is preserved across power cuts). If one could modify that via an external programme it would be fantastic.
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Good to see some development on the HDR box.
I would be very interested in something that allows us to view the guide & schedule recordings via a web page - perhaps even a web service so that APPs for our android/iphones can remote connect & schedule recordings Is anyone looking into this side of development? Is it even possible? I assume if we know where the EPG and schedule are stored its just a case of figuring out the file-format & developing an API to view/edit entries. (likely a lot more to it than that though - en edit probably wouldn't take affect until the power is cycled - but if a reboot could be issued then it could work!) Happy days! |
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There is always the Slingbox to let you do that.
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I assume if we know where the EPG and schedule are stored its just a case of figuring out the file-format & developing an API to view/edit entries. (likely a lot more to it than that though - en edit probably wouldn't take affect until the power is cycled - but if a reboot could be issued then it could work!)
Happy days! But there are other sources of EPG data out there. I have no idea if the technological obstacles to somehow pointing the box at them are too great though. Slingbox eh? Hmmm....looks problematic with HD from a quick look around the net unfortunately.
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I think that approach is a non-starter since in the case of HD it would involve decoding the EPG data, which is I gather technologically trivial but legally decisive, so it's a no-no.
... * and even if they did care I think they would have grave trouble prosecuting because : 1. We haven't signed any agreement 2. The encryption is so rubbish it cannot possibly be taken seriously. |
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The Radio Times seems happy for people to scrape the info from their web site and load it into a PVR as is done by many Topfield 5800 users to get two weeks of info.
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Besides, if I remember correctly it's based on a standard compression method.
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@swedish cook: OK. Looks like I might be buying one of these boxes down the line, with any luck!
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