you can do entirely what you want .

Anyway, they might have got someone with perhaps more claim to fame in their own right but who was a rubbish skater instead. At least Chloe is a well good skater and a contender for the title.

I'd agree were it not for the fact that I'd be accused of thinly veiled criticism.

It's only positions on the leaderboard that matter when the judges' marks are combined with viewers' votes; and DOI marking isn't on any absolute scale. So I don't think it makes much sense to say someone was over-marked unless it affected their position on the leaderboard.

But in this case, it does suggest that Robin isn't as much a "skating judge" (as contrasted to a "performance judge") as many believe.

I can skate and I can tell you, Chloe is not a skater.

To me she is only one step better than the people who walk around the ice rink.

I have seen little improvement in her skating. She has basically just struggled with moves and the weekly tasks and her strops prove that.

Yes, I agree with you regarding the positions on the leader board but it does give a false impression to the viewer if they think Sam was only 1 point better than Johnson.

Oh I do!

Which is why my positive comments are honest observations - not thinly veiled anything - and my negatives are genuinely held criticisms devoid of preconceived prejudice.

How many more threads have we got to endure this year of people stating personal opinion as fact It's repetative and boring. Whatever the reason any of them were chosen, there is little between the three at the top IMO.
I suppose the OP and many of us have thrown things down in frustration at times, it doesn't make us stroppy, just human,although reading some of the unkind remarks I wonder

Chloe's on record as saying she has anxiety attacks and in her VT this week she was distinctly saying that she was panicking, and also had been scared for the first time when in a lift that she was going to fall and that gave her a panic attack. She wasn't blaming anyone else for her reactions and they made a point of showing Michael being supportive.

T & D say she has a great attitude, I think if I was filmed for a week learning to skate for a week there would be more than a few strops shown!

Why pick out Chloe? Why not Johnson?

It baffles me as to why he qualifies as a celebrity.

Firstly, she is stroppy every single week live on TV for the cameras. Who else is like that on the show? I can't think of anybody.

It is factual then isn't it.

This whole idea that we are wrong to single her out, which in this case is for the blatant obviousness of not being a celebrity just misses the mark.

As far as I am aware it has been discussed in other threads.

I don't think she is. As such it's not factual but down to people's perception. If you find her stroppy fair enough, some other people on here might not find her stroppy (she seems normal in fact).

With regards to her celebrity. Again, if you have a problem with it, fair enough. Others don't. I couldn't care less that she is Richard and Judy's daughter (don't like them particularly). I was prepared to not give her the time of day, but IMO she has proven to be one of the better people on the programme.

Anyway, if only A-list celebrities were allowed on the show, there wouldn't be enough people taking part (A-listers are busy!). Each year we have people with less claim to fame taking part. As long as these people improve and produce decent routines I don't mind.

For the record, I like Laura, Sam and Chloe and think any of them could and should win it (depending on their remaining performances).

You have a very strange idea of someone 'throwing a strop'. All of the skaters are likely to have bad days and fall out with their partners at times. They have a demanding week and are being pushed way out of their comfort zone. She seems like a very well balanced girl to me, ;leaning a bit to the side of beating herself up. Certainly not stroppy or spoilt though.

BTW - the comparisons with Michael Douglas and all is just giving a similar example where they had a leg up because of who they were. not necessarily how they were. But in all businesses, once the door is opened for you you still have to produce the goods, as Chloe will have to if she gets the work. (and she's done very well in this show, so that's a good start for her)

That's a good point, as a general rule, but how do you explain Peaches Geldof getting a new series (OMG)?

Or Lilly Allen having a tv show about her vintage clothing shop's failure?

Peaches has always been pretty rubbish on tv, yet she still got a new show.

I've never known Peaches Geldof to have her own show before. Presumably if it flops she won't get another one.

As for Lily Allen, I'd say she has a pretty healthy pop career so the interest in her has nothing to do with nepotism. Most of the people who bought her records would have no idea who Keith Allen was. She's probably more famous than him.

I've no idea why anyone should give Peaches Geldof a show on TV other than contacts.

I think Lily Allen has done enough in her career and is an interesting enough person to merit having a programme made about her though.

I can skate too and I think Chloe is doing pretty well as a skater. On props week neither Laura nor Chloe did that much skating, both doing a lot on two feet but Chloe pulled off some difficult moves with the props; skipping, walking through the hoop while moving. Also a nice series of 3 turns and she has a smooth crossovers and a good turn of speed. If that's not skating you are not watching properly.

Laura did a lot of two foot stuff too and lots of stuff on the chair - her most skatey bit, the assisted 3 jumps (butterfly jumps I think they called them) were performed very badly and not landed at all well. If they'd gone well I might have Laura above Chloe but they were really bad.

Chloe seems to get mad at herself when she can't do something instantly and I can fully understand how her frustrations boil over but she also seems aware of this and seems to have a good relationship with Michael.

You certainly can't have preferred Kerry over Chloe on the basis of skating since Kerry never really did any skating at all and if you preferred her personality that's up to you but I certainly couldn't stand her whineyness and poor me attitude. Give me feisty Chloe any day!

As for celebrity well I'd at least heard of Chloe but I'd never heard of Sam or Laura or Jen and had only heard of Jeff as he was married to Jade who herself was only famous for being a reality TV star. It seems our definitions of celebrity differ a lot.

They all seem to get frustrated at times in their VTs and show their frustration in different ways ... whether it's shouting, snapping at their partner, moaning head in hands "I can't do this", stamping and screaming (either seriously or in a jokey way) .. and yes Choe did throw the hoop about ....but I would say that rather than strops it's all just their way of showing frustration and letting off steam when stressed




and if the OP would prefer to have Kerry in the competition to Chloe .. well Kerry threw just as many "strops" in training as Chloe does ... although I always got the sense with Kerry that she wasn't happy being there and didn't want to learn where as Chloe seems to be really enjoying it and want to learn and progress

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I doubt she would ever have become a pop star if not for her father; there wouldn't have been enough media in interest in her "singing". And having a pop career is no justification for a show about giving up on music and opening a clothing shop.

You obviously have a real problem with Chloe and her parents for that matter, I think we have all got the message now so these continual rants everytime someone defends her are pointless. You have expressed your opinion, sorry (fact) so please allow others to express theirs.

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This.

He got shot at. Jeff turned up on another reality show and then married someone from one. A lot of other people have been seen on TV - but then so has Chloe .If you ruled out minor TV stars and then ruled out anyone with famous parents you wouldn't have anyone much but the odd person who used to sing or play sport a bit. On the OP's criteria, you would have to turn Prince Charles away if he turned up at the auditions.

Some of us consider the holder of a VC in higher regard than the daughter of a couple of tv presenters.

You might not agree - and that is your right - but I'm constantly baffled by the celebrity status pinned on those famous only via association

I think the OP has been unduly harsh on Chloe - but can't you see the irony?

You regard the OP's views as pointless yet retain the right to defend Chloe?