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I tend to agree with you. I was surprised to see some posters on here basically saying that the ratings for the upcoming BGT auditions are largely unimportant (in anticipation of a big drop) when the performance of SYTYCD's auditions have been under so much scrutiny on this thread. Is it a case of one rule for the ITV show, and another for the BBC show? Completely different beasts obviously, but if BGT is down by the extent that some are forecasting it will be a big story and dominating the ratings headlines for a different reason to usual.
I think the show will be down without Cowell but not as much as some are predicting and especially not for the first show due to the curiosity aspect. |
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I tend to agree with you. I was surprised to see some posters on here basically saying that the ratings for the upcoming BGT auditions are largely unimportant (in anticipation of a big drop) when the performance of SYTYCD's auditions have been under so much scrutiny on this thread. Is it a case of one rule for the ITV show, and another for the BBC show? Completely different beasts obviously, but if BGT is down by the extent that some are forecasting it will be a big story and dominating the ratings headlines for a different reason to usual.
I think the show will be down without Cowell but not as much as some are predicting and especially not for the first show due to the curiosity aspect. SYTYCD is completely different in the sense that last year's first three episodes didn't exactly get stellar ratings but it's still down 30% year-on-year which is huge, even accounting for weather. If BGT was down 30% y-o-y, obviously it'd be completely unacceptable, but I'm anticipating something more in the line of -10% or so for the auditions. |
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The deadline for bids for the UEFA Champions League is tomorrow, 11am UK time I think. Will be fascinating to see if ESPN join Sky and ITV in the battle for the first pick matches. It'll be interesting if Channel 5 continues with cricket highlights after 2012, they've done a good job with them and they bring in a good audience. |
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Not a confirmed comedy hit, you're wrong I reckon
It started with 2.8m, rising each week and ended with 4.1m. It was also a massive hit on iPlayer (as figures for March will show when released in the next few days) Is that not a confirmed hit?
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I imagine it'll be Sky and ITV again. Have any of the other terrestrials ever bid or is it too expensive?
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I tend to agree with you. I was surprised to see some posters on here basically saying that the ratings for the upcoming BGT auditions are largely unimportant (in anticipation of a big drop) when the performance of SYTYCD's auditions have been under so much scrutiny on this thread. Is it a case of one rule for the ITV show, and another for the BBC show? Completely different beasts obviously, but if BGT is down by the extent that some are forecasting it will be a big story and dominating the ratings headlines for a different reason to usual.
. My award for best deliberate underprediction ever goes to Andy, who predicted that Mamma Mia-[ the highest grossing film ever in the UK] would get in the high 2M's
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Will certainly be interesting to see what happens with the contract for next years Masters - I imagine those figures for the BBC will give the Masters a very strong reason to stick with the current set up. However Sky's ratings certainly aren't disastrous and they will no doubt be keen for an exclusive contract.
The deadline for bids for the UEFA Champions League is tomorrow, 11am UK time I think. Will be fascinating to see if ESPN join Sky and ITV in the battle for the first pick matches. ![]() I think they're expanding nicely though with the Aviva Premiership, FA Cup and World Rally Championship joining the lineup this season alone. At the moment ESPN is doing all these things but largely going about its business quite quietly. More people will sit up and take notice if one or two major football contracts go their way, either in the form of a Champions League package, further Premier League package(s), or a mixture of the two. The industry talk of Channel 5 preparing to bolster its sports lineup looks to have died down now and in the wake of its major acquisition of the Big Brother format I would not expect C5 to be able to afford to bid for this or any other major new sporting contract for the next few years. |
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Whilst the ratings for The Masters on Sky appear to be quite strong, they are only a drop in the ocean compared to the BBC figures - which notably improved by around 700,000 viewers on last year. So this new arrangement doesn't appear to have harmed the BBC, and the evidence isn't compelling enough that it benefitted Sky greatly either. I guess the real winners are the rights holders and the sport itself.
The overnight reported on this thread of 2.86m is identical to last year's BARB official of 2.86m. And of course the BBC's Saturday figure fell approx 32% as detailed on this thread several pages back. NB. I know all the above are not absolutely precise due to the effect of HD. |
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Not a confirmed comedy hit, you're wrong I reckon
s but I see D.M.N. quite rightly beat me to it! ![]() Interested to hear why you don't consider it a hit. Quote:
Keith Lemmon is crude, but Brendan O'Carroll is brilliant.
There is a difference between comic vulgarity and plain obnoxiousness. But with those ITV2 ratings, what does it matter... Quote:
I tend to agree with you. I was surprised to see some posters on here basically saying that the ratings for the upcoming BGT auditions are largely unimportant (in anticipation of a big drop) when the performance of SYTYCD's auditions have been under so much scrutiny on this thread. Is it a case of one rule for the ITV show, and another for the BBC show? Completely different beasts obviously, but if BGT is down by the extent that some are forecasting it will be a big story and dominating the ratings headlines for a different reason to usual.
I think the show will be down without Cowell but not as much as some are predicting and especially not for the first show due to the curiosity aspect. Cowell helps orchestrate the tabloid/social-media frenzy, and gets it the column inches, but I still think millions will tune in simply for the "cute dancing dogs-laugh at the talentless/stupid/fat/ugly/chav" element. It's one big circus, and the masses will be there irrespective of who the ringmaster is. |
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Are you sure the BBC Sunday figures rose by 700,000?
The overnight reported on this thread of 2.86m is identical to last year's BARB official of 2.86m. And of course the BBC's Saturday figure fell approx 32% as detailed on this thread several pages back. NB. I know all the above are not absolutely precise due to the effect of HD. Quote:
Live coverage of the concluding round of the 2010 Masters golf tournament drew 3.104 million and a 14.5% share across BBC2 (2.901m/13.5%) and BBC HD (203,000/0.95%) between 6.55pm and midnight.
So last night's BBC2/HD figure was slightly down year-on-year, although that can be explained by Sky Sports' simulcast taking a few hundred thousand viewers away.
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Political Betting article on royal wedding ratings and betting opportunities:
http://www6.politicalbetting.com/ind...-ratings-flop/ |
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I can't see the absence of Cowell making an iota of difference. Indeed, his absence may cause some of us to tune in for the first time.
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Last year's Masters coverage on BBC2 on the Sunday had 3.10m (14.5%) including HD in the overnights: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...s-billie-piper
So last night's BBC2/HD figure was slightly down year-on-year, although that can be explained by Sky Sports' simulcast taking a few hundred thousand viewers away. I think we've probably done this subject to death now but the only other point I would make (ignoring the BBC / Sky split) is that the total Sunday UK TV audience this year was up quite a lot reflecting the McIlroy situation. |
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Are you sure the BBC Sunday figures rose by 700,000?
The overnight reported on this thread of 2.86m is identical to last year's BARB official of 2.86m. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...or-who-ratings Sometimes Google doesn't throw up exactly what you are looking for, but it's my fault for not checking the date more carefully.
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I hope so. But then I would say that as a proud ESPN subscriber.
![]() I think they're expanding nicely though with the Aviva Premiership, FA Cup and World Rally Championship joining the lineup this season alone. At the moment ESPN is doing all these things but largely going about its business quite quietly. More people will sit up and take notice if one or two major football contracts go their way, either in the form of a Champions League package, further Premier League package(s), or a mixture of the two. The industry talk of Channel 5 preparing to bolster its sports lineup looks to have died down now and in the wake of its major acquisition of the Big Brother format I would not expect C5 to be able to afford to bid for this or any other major new sporting contract for the next few years. Channel 5 I think will stick with their current sports contracts, they perform well and I think the Europa League they are paying £6m a year which is peanuts compared to what ITV pays for football and the cricket highlights, I wouldn't be surprised if they extend for another three years. |
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Sorry about that - error on my part. The rating I was basing that on was actually for the Saturday coverage last year, as per this MG article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...or-who-ratings Sometimes Google doesn't throw up exactly what you are looking for, but it's my fault for not checking the date more carefully. ![]() |
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Channel 5 I think will stick with their current sports contracts, they perform well and I think the Europa League they are paying £6m a year which is peanuts compared to what ITV pays for football and the cricket highlights, I wouldn't be surprised if they extend for another three years.
The current Europa League contract value looks way out of line with other TV sports contracts and the likelihood must be that next time someone will bid more. |
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Digiguide has updated for the week beginning Easter Saturday. The big news is that Doctor Who looks set for a 6pm slot (is that its earliest ever start since its revival for a regular series episode?)...
Easter Saturday BBC1: 17:25 - Don't Scare The Hare 18:00 - Doctor Who 18:45 - SYTYCD? 20:00 - Who Dares Wins 20:50 - SYTYCD? Results 21:20 - Casualty ITV1: 17:00 - March Of The Dinosaurs 19:00 - Sing If You Can 20:00 - Britain's Got Talent 21:00 - Piers Morgan's Life Stories Easter Sunday: - Britain's Royal Weddings continues on BBC1 at 21:00 - United (with David Tennant) on BBC2 at 21:00. Easter Monday: - Drama battle at 9pm - Rock & Chips on BBC1 vs The Suspicions Of Mr Whicher on ITV1. - Giles & Sue's Royal Weddings on BBC2 at 9pm. - Derren Brown's Faith Healer on Channel 4 at 9pm. Tuesday 26th: - MasterChef finals stripped until Thursday. - When Kate Met William on ITV1 at 9pm. Friday 29th: - The Royal Wedding (presumably highlights) runs on BBC1 between 8:30pm-10pm. - The Million Pound Drop moves to 9pm on C4. Important to note that this schedule could change once they're confirmed tomorrow, however the Digiguide schedules usually end up right most of the time. Thanks to Elgin for the above info Casualty being kept away from BGT which is good. Looks like SYTYCD results might get crushed by BGT though. |
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I can't see the absence of Cowell making an iota of difference. Indeed, his absence may cause some of us to tune in for the first time.
Cowell helps orchestrate the tabloid/social-media frenzy, and gets it the column inches, but I still think millions will tune in simply for the "cute dancing dogs-laugh at the talentless/stupid/fat/ugly/chav" element. It's one big circus, and the masses will be there irrespective of who the ringmaster is. I won't be watching. I said last year I was done with the Cowell shows and I meant it. Far too much else on at the minute to bother with another one of these repetitive and long-winded talent shows, where the focus is too much on the judges rather than the judged. |
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I was about to pepper my reply with
s but I see D.M.N. quite rightly beat me to it! ![]() MBB has hit the ground running. The obvious slot for series 2 is Saturday at 10pm, early enough to increase its viewing figures but late enough for it not to have to water down the material. I imagine something like this would have skewed blokey, so it would probably sit neatly alongside MOTD, another BBC1 late-night ratings hit. |
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But will C5 be able to renew it at that price?
The current Europa League contract value looks way out of line with other TV sports contracts and the likelihood must be that next time someone will bid more. Interesting that Rock and Chips is schedule against Mr Whicher, maybe they thought it would do better against a one-off than an established show. I do wonder whether more specials will be ordered because it didn't do so well at Christmas. The Specials for RPG are going to very hard for Dancc to decide on, especially as one of them will be The Royal Wedding. |
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Any idea of what OK! TV Sunday did?
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But will C5 be able to renew it at that price?
The current Europa League contract value looks way out of line with other TV sports contracts and the likelihood must be that next time someone will bid more. But it would be a risky buy for ITV if we take this season as an example. If, as some have said, it's in the contract that you must continue to air the live games on the terrestrial channel regardless of English clubs' involvement, unlike Channel 5 I don't think ITV would be very happy with that situation at all, having to air 5 all-foreign games in primetime on ITV1. It would be okay if they could just stick them out of the way on ITV4 but without this option I am not sure they would be interested. Therefore Channel 5 is by far the best terrestrial platform for the Europa League right now, as they will at least see the tournament through to the end and give it good coverage throughout regardless. I think Channel 5 would be mad not to try and keep hold of it, even if that means letting the cricket highlights go to do it. |
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based on the update im guessing we wont have the Doctor Who weekend, some people had predicted, and at least one poster was looking forward to
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When it was originally bidded, I dont think anyone expected Liverpool in the competition so the price will definetly go up but probably not by much.
Interesting that Rock and Chips is schedule against Mr Whicher, maybe they thought it would do better against a one-off than an established show. I do wonder whether more specials will be ordered because it didn't do so well at Christmas. The Specials for RPG are going to very hard for Dancc to decide on, especially as one of them will be The Royal Wedding. I think the ratings of the Easter special will decide if there are any more episodes in the future. |
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s but I see D.M.N. quite rightly beat me to it! 
