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Old 24-03-2011, 13:12
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Can anyone get me the ratings for repeat showing of Van Damme Behind Closed Doors please 10pm itv4?
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Old 24-03-2011, 15:51
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They should have given it a snappier title though - I have to say "Law & Order" is such a dull name even for a routine police procedural. They might as well have called it "Crime Drama".
Yes, but Law and Order is a global franchise so it will help sell it overseas on that basis as programme buyers and viewers immediately know it is part of the Law and Order universe . Had it just been called London Murder Squad, or whatever, it would have just been yet another UK crime drama.

It would be like launching 'CSI Blackpool' and calling it 'Seaside Forensics'. Or the new Dallas being called 'Oil Baron's Brawl'.

Legacy from a 20 year running series counts in TV land.

All the original Law and Order UK TV ads used the long running US series as a basis for promotion and they even employed its long running theme tune.

It has been a tradition with the show however many incarnations that they are all Law and Order: XXXXX

Even the new and struggling US series Law and Order: Los Angles has been tweaked siginificantly and effectively relaunched but with the new title simply Law and Order: LA.
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Old 24-03-2011, 16:01
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Yes, but Law and Order is a global franchise so it will help sell it overseas on that basis as programme buyers and viewers immediately know it is part of the Law and Order universe.
It's currently showing on BBC America. I'm sure the title helps there!!
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Old 24-03-2011, 16:37
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One of the standout ratings has to be Friends which managed 0.7m across E4 and +1 and E4 are really going to struggle to fill all those hours, because not many shows can air 3 or 4 times a year (at least) and get ratings like that. Also bear in mind that episode was already shown earlier twice on E4, so across 4 showings the reach is massive.
Very big rating for it and strongly suggests E4 might be pulling the plug too soon. I wonder how the channel will mark the departure of the show? Perhaps run a marathon over a weekend or two, whole seasons back-to-back, or maybe a selection of the best episodes as voted by the fans?

Talking of E4, they've taken Scrubs out of rotation as of yesterday at the end of Season 8. It looks like Season 9 won't be getting a repeat, although I can't say I blame them as it was very poor compared to the other seasons.
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Old 24-03-2011, 17:05
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Very interesting ratings regarding the Live+7 system. It shows how outdated the BARB system is when some shows are increasing by 210%, 380% or even 560% for total viewing in 7 days.
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Old 24-03-2011, 17:09
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Quite what the BBC think they are gaining by shifting So You Think You Can Dance earlier and earlier to gain a head start on a repeat on ITV is puzzling. 6:30pm is a bit too early for it really with the clocks going back this weekend. It was originally down for 7pm before shifting to 6:40pm to get a head start on the TV Burp repeat, so ITV shifted and now BBC1 have shifted again. Looks like ITV haven't bothered to shift again although the upside for them is that they can now show the movie without it being interrupted by the news.

I agree about Millionaire too, 5-5.5m seems like a reasonable guess. I hope they've learnt from their mistake at Christmas and are willing to let it overrun if it needs to this time
Can they though? If it overuns the news will not finish until after midnight, which I would be surprised if thats allowed. So the only other option would be to split the Film, but potentially with just an odd 5-10 minutes after the news

23.45 for ITV News? That's late - surely they could've done that with other films instead of cutting them off soon after 10pm?
Whenever ITV split a Film for news it's because the Film wouldn't be over by 2345. That makes me think ITV1 has to have 15 minutes of news finishing by midnight
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Old 24-03-2011, 17:24
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Can they though? If it overuns the news will not finish until after midnight, which I would be surprised if thats allowed. So the only other option would be to split the Film, but potentially with just an odd 5-10 minutes after the news


Whenever ITV split a Film for news it's because the Film wouldn't be over by 2345. That makes me think ITV1 has to have 15 minutes of news finishing by midnight
I just checked on DigiGuide as far back as my listings go and the latest that bulletin has ever been normally is 2345, which has happened a few times, so you're probably right.

Except for New Year's Eve 2010 when it started at 2350, although the rules are probably different for holidays.
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Old 24-03-2011, 17:38
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Today's "WTF was the scheduler on?!" of the day. It's Chuck v Chuck on Thursdays!

DRAMA: Chuck
On: Sky Living
Date: Thursday 31st March 2011 (starting in 7 days)
Time: 20:00 to 21:00 (1 hour long)

Chuck Versus the Balcony. Series 4, episode 11.
When Chuck is sent to a French vineyard he tries to juggle investigating the case with turning the trip into a romantic break with Sarah.
(Editor's Choice, Stereo, New Episode, Widescreen, Subtitles, 3 Star)
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Marked By: 'New Dramas' and 'Category: Drama' markers
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Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.tv/?p=1&r=87587

Copyright (c) GipsyMedia Limited.
DRAMA: Chuck
On: 5* (Freeview) (30)
Date: Thursday 31st March 2011 (starting in 7 days)
Time: 20:00 to 21:00 (1 hour long)

Chuck Versus the Wookie. Series 1, episode 4.
Chuck has to steal a million-dollar diamond from a Malibu mansion.
(Repeat, 2007, 5 Star)

Director: Allan Kroeker
Starring: Zachary Levi, Adam Baldwin, Joshua Gomez, Yvonne Strahovski, Sarah Lancaster, Vik Sahay

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Marked By: 'Category: Drama' marker
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Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.tv/?p=1&r=87587

Copyright (c) GipsyMedia Limited.
I wonder what Sky were hoping to achieve here? Kill off the show's already limited audience completely?
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Old 24-03-2011, 17:41
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I can see S4C getting record ratings on saturday for the England v Wales highlights seeing as there arent any other ways of seeing the match if you havent got sky sports.
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Old 24-03-2011, 17:44
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I can see S4C getting record ratings on saturday for the England v Wales highlights seeing as there arent any other ways of seeing the match if you havent got sky sports.
Don't ITV have any highlights for this?
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Old 24-03-2011, 17:58
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But that was with soap support - it'd go even lower without it!

I've had a new idea for a programme: How Low Can We Go? - ITV take an inventive approach to their Tuesday problem and launch a programme where the key aim is to pull in no viewers whatsoever. The rate they're going they should get there by Christmas...
LOL, perhaps a new series of Marco's Kitchen Burnout as this was bad enough with 2 million viewers on Fridays, so on Tuesdays expect it to well below a million.
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Old 24-03-2011, 18:01
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STV are opting out of the new series of Lewis and are doing this on Sundays :

19:00 Monte Carlo or Bust
20:00 The Cube
21:00 Law & Order : UK

So timeshifting The Cube and showing missing episodes from series 3 of Law & Order UK (which puts it up against the first episode of Waking the Dead in Scotland )
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Old 24-03-2011, 18:33
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Yes, but Law and Order is a global franchise so it will help sell it overseas on that basis as programme buyers and viewers immediately know it is part of the Law and Order universe . Had it just been called London Murder Squad, or whatever, it would have just been yet another UK crime drama.

It would be like launching 'CSI Blackpool' and calling it 'Seaside Forensics'. Or the new Dallas being called 'Oil Baron's Brawl'.

Legacy from a 20 year running series counts in TV land.

All the original Law and Order UK TV ads used the long running US series as a basis for promotion and they even employed its long running theme tune.

It has been a tradition with the show however many incarnations that they are all Law and Order: XXXXX

Even the new and struggling US series Law and Order: Los Angles has been tweaked siginificantly and effectively relaunched but with the new title simply Law and Order: LA.
They could always have changed the title for the overseas market. Midsomer Murders is called Barnaby abroad.
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Old 24-03-2011, 18:58
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Don't ITV have any highlights for this?
No, because it's an away qualifier so much like Ukraine vs England in 2009, which was online, and the Andorra match which was only on Setanta, the FA have nothing to do with it. The Wales TV contract features live matches on Sky, Welsh language highlights on S4C and no English language highlights at all.

The same was true the last time England played Wales in 2005, Of course if England had been playing Scotland or Northern Ireland, highlights would have been on the BBC as they have highlights rights for Scotland and Northern Ireland home matches. But there is no English language highlights deal for Wales home matches.

Which is bloody stupid, of course, as it means people in Wales have to pay to watch their own team, which is often dumped on Sky Sports 3 or 4, but can watch England on ITV for nothing at all. Really promoting the national team, there.
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Old 24-03-2011, 18:58
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Can anyone get me the ratings for repeat showing of Van Damme Behind Closed Doors please 10pm itv4?
186,00...1.1% share
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Old 24-03-2011, 21:31
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The Daily Mail has repeated the rumours (mentioned in the Daily Mirror) concerning the future of The Vanessa Show if ratings don't improve.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...inue-drop.html
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Old 24-03-2011, 21:34
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in other news: the pope is catholic
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Old 24-03-2011, 22:08
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Interesting article on the BBC's new Live+7 ratings here: http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...025318.article

The ratings include narrative repeats, iPlayer views and HD showings. BBC3 shows got the biggest uplift with Snog, Marry, Avoid? rising by 560% (1.5m). Him and Her had 2.5million (overnight 0.8m) and one episode of Junior Doctors had a Live+7 figure of 3.5m.

The first episode of The Apprentice last year had a figure of 10 million, as did Top Gear in January.
Really interesting stuff. I suppose it was always likely that multichannel and youth-skewing programmes would be the ones to benefit most from the new metric. And an extremely impressive overall number for Junior Doctors. It's been a very big hit for the channel, and a rather marketable, 'respectable' one too, in terms of subject matter.

Also, forgive me if its been mentioned on this thread so far, but I saw today that the next series of Merlin was back up to a full compliment of 13 episodes:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s53/m...in-series.html
The producer there is still talking of it as an autumn, Saturday night show - but there's going to be some scheduling issues created now with Doctor Who airing its remaining 6 episodes from September too.
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Old 24-03-2011, 22:19
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Can someone post a list of Channel 4's most watched shows ever?
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Old 24-03-2011, 22:28
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Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.11m
18:30 Today Tonight 1.09m
19:00 Home and Away 0.89m
19:30 How I Met Your Mother 0.84m
20:00 How I Met Your Mother 0.95m
20:30 Grey's Anatomy 0.87m

Nine
18:00 Nine News 1.04m
18:30 A Current Affair 0.96m
19:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 0.53m excluding Brisbane
19:30 RBT 0.72m
20:00 Getaway 0.67m
20:30 The Million Dollar Drop / CSI: Crime Scene Investigation 0.65m

Ten
18:00 6pm with George Negus 0.32m
*moves to 6:30pm as part of fresh schedule shakeup next month.
18:30 Ten Evening News 0.27m
19:00 The 7pm Project 0.73m
19:30 The Biggest Loser: Families 0.67m
20:30 Thursday Night AFL / The Good Wife 0.76m

Eleven
18:30 Neighbours 0.32m
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Old 24-03-2011, 22:28
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Can someone post a list of Channel 4's most watched shows ever?
Different sources say slightly different things. Radio Times had this list:

1. Woman of Substance - 13.9m (January 1985)
2. Four Weddings and a Funeral - 12.4m (November 1995)
3. Gregory's Girl - 10.8m (January 1985)
4. Big Brother: season three final - 10m (July 2002)
5. Big Fat Gypsy Weddings - 9.7m (February 2011)
6. Friends: final episode - 9.6m (May 2004)
7. Nuns on the Run - 9.2m (April 1993)
8. Celebrity Big Brother - 8.8m (January 2007)
9. Dark Night of the Scarecrow - 8.3m (May 1985)
10. International Snooker - 8.3m (December 1984)

The Independent had the following list:

1: Woman of Substance (13.9m/4 January 1985)
2. Four Weddings and a Funeral (12.4m/15 November 1995)
3. Gregory's Girl (10.8m/8 January 1985)
4. Big Brother 3 Final (10m/26 July 2002)
5. Cutting Edge "Shops & Robbers" (9.8m/14 February 1994)
6. Big Fat Gypsy Weddings (9.7m/8 February 2011)
7. Friends (9.6m/28 May 2004)
8. Nuns on the Run (9.2m/18 April 1993)
9. Brookside (8.9m/31 January 1995)
10. Celebrity Big Brother (8.8m/19 January 2007)

Note: Figures above include C4+1 where necessary.

If you were to exclude C4+1, BFGW would rate at 8.8m which would put it at #8 or #10 in those respective charts.
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Old 24-03-2011, 22:43
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Ten
18:00 6pm with George Negus 0.32m
*moves to 6:30pm as part of fresh schedule shakeup next month.
18:30 Ten Evening News 0.27m

Eleven
18:30 Neighbours 0.32m
wow TEN Evening News flopped the day after its axed was accouned.

Despite the low start to the week Neighours has rebounded.
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Old 24-03-2011, 22:51
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Also, forgive me if its been mentioned on this thread so far, but I saw today that the next series of Merlin was back up to a full compliment of 13 episodes:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s53/m...in-series.html
The producer there is still talking of it as an autumn, Saturday night show - but there's going to be some scheduling issues created now with Doctor Who airing its remaining 6 episodes from September too.
It's not compulsory for programmes to stop for Christmas, you know.

A possible scenario:

Dr Who starts 3rd September to be BBC1's main Saturday night offering prior to Strictly's return.

Merlin would then start on 15th October.

Episode 11 would fall on 24th December. Merlin would be a good option for Christmas Eve at 6pm or 7pm with a good chance of grabbing a healthy 6m+ in the overnights.

Episode 12 would fall on 31st December. I know TV companies don't make much effort on New Year's Eve because loads of people go out to New Year parties but it would be all right to stick Merlin on at 7pm before people go out.

Episode 13 would be 7th January.

Or as the series starts with a 2 part story, maybe they could have episode 1 on the Saturday and episode 2 on the Sunday* and end the series on New Year weekend.

*or perhaps not, giving Primeval's poor performance when it went out on Sunday
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Old 24-03-2011, 23:39
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Good night for both BBC1 and ITV1 last night. Midsomer Murders, Waterloo Road and Masterchef appear to compliment each other which surprises me somewhat.
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Old 24-03-2011, 23:41
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wow TEN Evening News flopped the day after its axed was accouned.

Despite the low start to the week Neighours has rebounded.
I think the problem is that Ten Evening News and Neighbours are competing over the same audience. TEN were foolish to think that Neighbours could do okay while conjuring up new viewers for the Evening News. Australia has so few viewers anyway that to conjure up 0.7m for the Ten Evening News while getting 0.4m for Neighbours is impossible. It will be interesting to see what the new schedule does!
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