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Old 29-03-2011, 23:08
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Formula 1: The Australian Grand Prix - 15-Minute Breakdown
07:00 - 2.2m (64.1%)
07:15 - 2.4m (61.7%)
07:30 - 2.5m (59.6%)
07:45 - 2.7m (56.1%)
08:00 - 2.9m (52.5%)
08:15 - 3.0m (49.3%)
08:30 - 3.1m (45.9%)
Good "race itself" figures, and particularly the shares.

What else this year will achieve during "waking hours viewing" (ie, 7am to 11pm) a peak share of 64%?

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Does ITV1 even have a "primetime" on Saturdays at the moment?

Maybe they could combine the two programmes and have DCI John Barnaby investigate the brutal murder of a dull, irritating sitcom family. Could be a long-runner cos there would probably be 5 million suspects.


Regarding The Weakest Link, maybe they're running out of contestants?


I wonder if Holby / Silk will get the better of England reserves


Cracking friendly, as Tyldesley and the failed breakfast presenter kept reminding us. Should get 3.5m at least.

(I went ridiculously low because I get told off if I so-called "over-predict"... )
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Old 29-03-2011, 23:25
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Story of the night:
* Seven dominates.


Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.18m
18:30 Today Tonight 1.15m
19:00 Home and Away 0.95m
19:30 My Kitchen Rules 1.50m
20:30 Winners & Losers 1.57m
21:20 Winners & Losers 1.42m

Nine
18:00 Nine News 1.00m
18:30 A Current Affair 0.91m
19:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 0.54m excluding Brisbane
19:30 The Big Bang Theory (R) 0.86m
20:00 The Big Bang Theory (R) 0.68m
20:30 Top Gear 0.65m

Ten
18:00 6pm with George Negus 0.37m
18:30 Ten Evening News 0.36m
19:00 7pm Project 0.72m
19:30 Talkin' 'Bout Your Generation 0.97m
20:40 NCIS 1.13m

Eleven
18:30 Neighbours 0.33m

Shares
Seven – 27.4%
Ten – 18.3%
Nine – 17.0%
Eleven – 3.5%
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Old 29-03-2011, 23:30
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Neighbours seems to flucuate within the 0.30m's quite a bit - from a high of 0.39m to 0.33 on Tuesday.

As for Britain - reasonable for Law and Order but not brilliant by any means. Waking the Dead held up well on the Sunday episode. The soaps were slightly hit by British Summer Time.
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Old 29-03-2011, 23:34
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A risky move by Seven airing a double bill of W&L last night so early in the series, but it appears to have paid off. The first episode was slightly up on its opener last week, and there was barely any dropoff for the second. The figures for the second episode are especially impressive when you consider it didn't finish until 10:10pm. I can't recall a higher rating in that timeslot for a very long time.

It appears Seven must have cut down on ads or something though to fit two episodes into a 1hr40 slot.
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Old 30-03-2011, 00:46
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What else this year will achieve during "waking hours viewing" (ie, 7am to 11pm) a peak share of 64%?
Royal Wedding: The Breakfast?

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Old 30-03-2011, 02:07
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Digiguide scheduling update for week beginning 9th April:

Saturday 9th:
- ITV1 have the premiere of Mamma Mia! at 18:50, with When Piers Morgan Met Andrew Lloyd Webber at 21:00.
Mamma Mia! should do well with a plum Saturday slot, I think 5-6m, Piers Morgan should do decently as well. I imagine Mamma Mia! will be played to death on ITV2 after that.

I know it's cable - and I believe a subscription add on too, but those figures just look awful when you consider what digital channels achieve here. Indeed looking at the US as a whole advertisers must pay far more per viewer than they would here to support some ridiculous production fees and salaries of many US shows.
Showtime has 19m subscribers whereas HBO has 30m so 1m is very good for them as only Dexter rates higher. Spartacus on Starz got 0.6m which was a record for Starz at the time and it increased with each episode to over 1m, I believe the final episode of Gods of the Arena got 1.7m.

HBO has had to up its game due to the increase of originals on Showtime and Starz. Game of Thrones looks very good and should easily be a hit for them although Starz launches their own fantasy drama in Camelot on Friday while Showtime airs The Borgias on Sunday which is sort of a successor to The Tudors.
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Old 30-03-2011, 07:23
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CBS News Ratings Lowest Since 1992

US network 6.30 news ratings for the first quarter of 2011 show CBS had the lowest average since the present rating system began in 1992. There are reports anchor Katie Couric is not renewing her contract and is in talks with other networks.

Average audiences first quarter of 2011:

1. NBC News with Brian Williams 9.81 million
2. ABC News with Diane Sawyer 8.65 million
3. CBS News with Katie Couric 6.43 million

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Old 30-03-2011, 08:22
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What else this year will achieve during "waking hours viewing" (ie, 7am to 11pm) a peak share of 64%?
RWC games probably.

Although you do know that 64% of 1m is less than 25% of 20m?
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Old 30-03-2011, 09:35
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Around 6-7 million people actually. The majority are elderly which was kind of my point that they won't be using Facebook or twitter. (eg. there were far more tweets and Facebook comments last night regarding One Born Every Minute than there was for Silent Witness, even though Silent Witness got double the amount of viewers.)

But i suppose going by your 'bullet proof theory' the BARB figures must be wrong?
Please remember, BARB figures are only from a SAMPLE of people!
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Old 30-03-2011, 09:36
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Just to remind that they DID film Life on Mars where it was set - in south Manchester/Stockport/Hyde.

It was only the US remake that was set on or near to Mars.

Mind you Outcasts was set on an alien world and filmed expensively in South Africa, but would have been just as realistic filmed in Scunthorpe.

I also wish that Casualty and Holby City would film in one location together as it has been a treat to see Henrick cross over from Holby to Casualty several times lately, as he would in real life, but these occurrences are few and far between given that in fiction they only have to get in a lift and in real life they need to travel 90 miles down the M 4.
They could film it in Bristol, which is where Holby City is meant to be in the programme.....
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Old 30-03-2011, 09:48
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Please remember, BARB figures are only from a SAMPLE of people!
Either you are on the wind-up or you have no grasp of statistics. It is easily proved that a sample panel of the whole can be representative of the whole whilst maintaining a small margin of error.

In fact, as the sample size increase, whilst the margin of error drops, the data collection lends itself to more errors and can reduce accuracy!

There is always an optimal sample size with these things, BARB might not be quite up there but the ratings we see are by no means overtly "flawed"!
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Old 30-03-2011, 09:59
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also the Thursday episode of EE is 19:25 - 20:00, not sure why.
...and to make up for it losing 5 minutes, it means The One Show on Friday 15th April is on for 65 minutes from 18:55 to 20:00 - http://uk-tv-guide.com/programme-det...ine+Programme/

It looks like, actually, that could be some kind of a 'The One Show Special' because its repeated at 23:30 on the same day: http://uk-tv-guide.com/programme-det...ine+Programme/

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Old 30-03-2011, 10:02
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I know its probably been explained numerous times but i cant find any examples, can you explain how they work out the ratings just from a sample of people? Is it fairly straightforward?

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Old 30-03-2011, 10:11
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Some of yesterday's overnights:

Silk (BBC1): 4.7m (18.6%)
See You in Court (BBC1): 2.2m (17.1%)

The Hairy Bikers: Mums Know Best (BBC2): 2.1m (8.7%)

Lily Allen: From Riches to Rags (C4): 1.2m (7.1%)

Junior Doctors: Your Life in Their Hands (BBC3): 1m (4.1%)

Source: Attentional
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Silk held up brilliantly against the England football match, only down 0.1-0.2m compared to how the other episodes have rated. Surely another series will be commissioned given it's got such a consistent audience and timeshifts to high 5m's in the consolidated figures.
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Old 30-03-2011, 10:20
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Ratings for Channel 5 shows?
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Old 30-03-2011, 10:29
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Statistical "Sampling" as you call it, is only truly representative of those that are "Sampled", not of the whole country!
Yes, but that is the same for EVERY bit of sample research, so we might as well call the entire of the market research industry liars. In reality, the 'sample' is selected, controlled and weighted to be representative across a multitude of demographics both nationally and regionally. This makes sure that it has and represents the right number of young people, the right number of people with Sky, the right number of people who own a PVR, the right number of people in a lower social grade...etc...etc.... in many many ways, the BARB sample is probably one of the most controlled and representative samples in market research. Clearly sample size can be an issue for small, niche channels but on a network basis, it's robust, accurate (95% confidence intervals permitting) and representative. You could double the sample size and not decrease the sampling error by much which is why it's current size is set to what it is...that and it costs millions to run.
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Old 30-03-2011, 10:32
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Please remember, BARB figures are only from a SAMPLE of people!
Care to suggest an alternative to BARB???
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Old 30-03-2011, 10:41
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Some of yesterday's overnights:

Silk (BBC1): 4.7m (18.6%)

Junior Doctors: Your Life in Their Hands (BBC3): 1m (4.1%)

Source: Attentional
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Silk held up brilliantly against the England football match, only down 0.1-0.2m compared to how the other episodes have rated. Surely another series will be commissioned given it's got such a consistent audience and timeshifts to high 5m's in the consolidated figures.
I'm tempted to say there must be a mistake, because there's no way Silk could have held up so well against an England match. I expected 4.0m at best, possibly less.

Junior Doctors took a hit, predictably.

I await the footie ratings with interest!
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Old 30-03-2011, 10:45
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Yes, but that is the same for EVERY bit of sample research, so we might as well call the entire of the market research industry liars. In reality, the 'sample' is selected, controlled and weighted to be representative across a multitude of demographics both nationally and regionally. This makes sure that it has and represents the right number of young people, the right number of people with Sky, the right number of people who own a PVR, the right number of people in a lower social grade...etc...etc.... in many many ways, the BARB sample is probably one of the most controlled and representative samples in market research. Clearly sample size can be an issue for small, niche channels but on a network basis, it's robust, accurate (95% confidence intervals permitting) and representative. You could double the sample size and not decrease the sampling error by much which is why it's current size is set to what it is...that and it costs millions to run.
I still don't know how market research can be so accurate, or in the case of TV viewing accurately take account of the particular foibles of 60m people, but one good example where we can validate it against actual measurement is opinion polling for elections. In particular, the exit polls taken on polling day itself. By sampling a few thousand people (10k perhaps, possibly less) as they leave polling stations across the UK, the BBC/Sky/ITV exit poll last year was virtually spot on in predicting how 40m voters had voted across 650 seats.

BARB is only doing the same. In fact, it's probably more accurate because it relies on hi-tech equipment to measure every last second of viewing in sample homes and not just relying on what people say when asked.
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Old 30-03-2011, 10:49
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6m (24.8%) for England v Ghana, which is pretty much in line with what everybody expected really.

15-minute peak was 7.4m (28.5%) at 8.30pm.
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Old 30-03-2011, 10:52
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Decent for the England match. That's the same rating as what their previous Tuesday match got, but that was a Euro 2012 Qualifier, whereas last night's was a friendly match involving hardly any of the regular first team.
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Old 30-03-2011, 10:54
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Upcoming delights on BBC 4.

The BBC Four Spring/Summer 2011 Preview Showreel
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Old 30-03-2011, 11:01
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I still don't know how market research can be so accurate, or in the case of TV viewing accurately take account of the particular foibles of 60m people, but one good example where we can validate it against actual measurement is opinion polling for elections. In particular, the exit polls taken on polling day itself. By sampling a few thousand people (10k perhaps, possibly less) as they leave polling stations across the UK, the BBC/Sky/ITV exit poll last year was virtually spot on in predicting how 40m voters had voted across 650 seats.

BARB is only doing the same. In fact, it's probably more accurate because it relies on hi-tech equipment to measure every last second of viewing in sample homes and not just relying on what people say when asked.
Exit polls are done in an entirely different way. No-one is interviewed as such. Basically, selected polling stations are manned for the whole time they are open. A set number of people ( say 1 in 5, or 1 in 7) leaving the poll station is asked to put a cross on a piece of paper indicating who they voted for. There is nothing on the paper apart from the names of the candidates so it is completely anonymous. They then put the folded paper in a 'ballot' box. At the end of each hour the 'results' are phoned in to the collating centre. As it is anonymous and only takes a couple of seconds, there is a very high response rate which leads to much more accurate result than previous methods.

Statasticians work out the percentage changes compared to results over previous years at that station, in that area, over the whole country, etc.

sorry to digress!
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Old 30-03-2011, 11:15
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I'm tempted to say there must be a mistake, because there's no way Silk could have held up so well against an England match. I expected 4.0m at best, possibly less.

Junior Doctors took a hit, predictably.

I await the footie ratings with interest!
I'm pleased Silk held up so well. This show has been getting better and better each week. I hope it returns.
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Old 30-03-2011, 11:15
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6m (24.8%) for England v Ghana, which is pretty much in line with what everybody expected really.

15-minute peak was 7.4m (28.5%) at 8.30pm.
very good considering the long pre and post match packaging and the fact that it was a friendly
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