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Old 30-03-2011, 11:18
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The more atypical it is to agree to take part the less valid the data becomes.

This is why polls on DS are so much junk.

BARB can't possibly have a cross section of the UK TV viewing population, the process of being "BARBED" is so protracted and invasive that only a few people would take part.

They may very well have a cross-section of social groups, but the people they have must be a bit weird to agree to such a procedure being done to them for very little gain.
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Old 30-03-2011, 11:25
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The more atypical it is to agree to take part the less valid the data becomes.

This is why polls on DS are so much junk.
No it isn't. Online polls are rubbish because the respondants are self selecting.

BARB panels are not self selected.
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Old 30-03-2011, 11:32
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BARB can't possibly have a cross section of the UK TV viewing population, the process of being "BARBED" is so protracted and invasive that only a few people would take part.
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BARB, like all market research practitioners, try to ensure high response rates which it achieves. Clearly there are questions about the types of people who do market research against those who don't, this is difficult to quantify however. That said, again, the response rates are high (70%+).
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Old 30-03-2011, 11:43
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Thanks for that, What would I do without BBC4? At a time when I've almost given up on TV, as there's so little on I've interest in! On the plus side I've seen loads of great films! This trailer is stunning though, beautifully shot and edited, it's a work of art itself.
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Old 30-03-2011, 11:50
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who wants to be a millionaire mothers day special has just been advertised and says it's live.
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Old 30-03-2011, 12:01
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Decent for the England match.
Or to be more accurate - decent for "an England match on ITV"
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Old 30-03-2011, 12:31
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Programming note.

Sing If You Can and Britain's Got Talent apparently start on Saturday 16th April.
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Old 30-03-2011, 12:44
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Tuesday 29th March Overnights
BBC One
21:00- Silk: 4.70m (18.58%)
* overnight series average: 4.95m (20.14%)
22:35- See You in Court: 2.2m (17.1%)

BBC Two
21:00- Bible's Buried Secrets: 1.31m (5.1%) inc HD

ITV1
19:30- Live International Football: 6.00m (24.8%) , +1: 44,700 (0.21%)
* peak: 7.6m (30.27%) at 20:45
* coverage began with: 3.38m (15.62%)
* audience at kick-off: 5.87m (25.53%)
* audience in last 5 mins of match: 7.11m (28.07%)


Channel 4
18:00- The Simpsons: 1.57m (inc +1)
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.18m (inc +1)
20:00- Supersize vs. Superskinny: 2.10m (inc +1)
21:00- Katie: My Beautiful Friends: 1.57m (6.21%) , +1: 274,100 (2.6%)
22:00- Lily Allen: From Rags to Riches: 1.19m (7.11%) , +1: 142,600 (1.6%)

Channel 5
21:00- CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: 2.2m (8.7%)

Ratings include HD and are tape-checked where necessary

Multichannels
Alibi (inc +1)
21:00- Murdoch Mysteries: 228k

BBC Three
21:00- Junior Doctors: 1.04m (4.1%)
* series average: 1.28m (5.22%)
* slot average: 940,000 (3.7%)

22:00- White Van Man: 754,200 (4.8%) inc HD
23:45- Junior Doctors: 288,900 (5.2%)

BBC Four
21:00- Sex and the Sitcom: 284,900 (1.1%)
22:00- Hattie: 216,400 (1.4%)

Dave (inc +1)
22:00- Qi XL: 429k

E4 (inc +1)
19:00- Hollyoaks: 560k
21:00- 90210: 458k

Film4 (inc +1)
19:15- The Man: 253k
21:00- P.s. I Love You: 342k

Gold (inc +1)
19:15- Last of the Summer Wine: 152k

More4 (inc +1)
18:45- Come Dine with Me: 349k
21:00- Grand Designs: 385k

Sky Living
21:00- Katie: 306,300 (1.2%) , +1: 110k (0.63%)

Watch
20:00- No Ordinary Family: 243k (inc +1)
21:00- Nice Day for a Greek Wedding: 94,600 (0.37%)

Sources: Attentional, Broadcast (1) (2), C4Sales
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Old 30-03-2011, 12:59
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Tuesday 29th March Overnights
BBC One
21:00- Silk: 4.70m (18.58%)
* overnight series average: 4.95m (20.14%)
22:35- See You in Court: 2.2m (17.1%)

BBC Two
21:00- Bible's Buried Secrets: 1.31m (5.1%) inc HD

ITV1
19:30- Live International Football: 6.00m (24.8%) , +1: 44,700 (0.21%)
* peak: 7.6m (30.27%) at 20:45
* coverage began with: 3.38m (15.62%)
* audience at kick-off: 5.87m (25.53%)
* audience in last 5 mins of match: 7.11m (28.07%)


Channel 4
18:00- The Simpsons: 1.57m (inc +1)
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.18m (inc +1)
20:00- Supersize vs. Superskinny: 2.10m (inc +1)
21:00- Katie: My Beautiful Friends: 1.57m (6.21%) , +1: 274,100 (2.6%)
22:00- Lily Allen: From Rags to Riches: 1.19m (7.11%) , +1: 142,600 (1.6%)

Channel 5
21:00- CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: 2.2m (8.7%)

Ratings include HD and are tape-checked where necessary

Multichannels
Alibi (inc +1)
21:00- Murdoch Mysteries: 228k

BBC Three
21:00- Junior Doctors: 1.04m (4.1%)
* series average: 1.28m (5.22%)
* slot average: 940,000 (3.7%)

22:00- White Van Man: 754,200 (4.8%) inc HD
23:45- Junior Doctors: 288,900 (5.2%)

BBC Four
21:00- Sex and the Sitcom: 284,900 (1.1%)
22:00- Hattie: 216,400 (1.4%)

Dave (inc +1)
22:00- Qi XL: 429k

E4 (inc +1)
19:00- Hollyoaks: 560k
21:00- 90210: 458k

Film4 (inc +1)
19:15- The Man: 253k
21:00- P.s. I Love You: 342k

Gold (inc +1)
19:15- Last of the Summer Wine: 152k

More4 (inc +1)
18:45- Come Dine with Me: 349k
21:00- Grand Designs: 385k

Sky Living
21:00- Katie: 306,300 (1.2%) , +1: 110k (0.63%)

Watch
20:00- No Ordinary Family: 243k (inc +1)
21:00- Nice Day for a Greek Wedding: 94,600 (0.37%)

Sources: Attentional, Broadcast (1) (2), C4Sales
ouch for Katie. good bit of business by ITV2, letting her go..
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Old 30-03-2011, 13:01
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Programming note.

Sing If You Can and Britain's Got Talent apparently start on Saturday 16th April.
And Vernon Kay has been replaced by Keith Lemon as host despite having filmed 2 episodes already. Intriguing. Personally I think with the type of show it is going for a comedy angle is a better idea than using a generic host.
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Old 30-03-2011, 14:06
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And Vernon Kay has been replaced by Keith Lemon as host despite having filmed 2 episodes already. Intriguing. Personally I think with the type of show it is going for a comedy angle is a better idea than using a generic host.
Funny you should say that as that is what the show makers said. From Broadcast:

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...025525.article

Lemon squeezed into Sing if You Can

Leigh Francis character Keith Lemon has replaced Vernon Kay on ITV1’s primetime entertainment format Sing if You Can after a pilot revealed the show would work better in the hands of a comedian.

An ITV insider said the format, which sees celebrities battle it out by singing in an extreme circumstances, took it “by surprise” and was more “madcap” in tone than expected.

As a result, the broadcaster sat down with producer RDF Television and the talent last week and it was decided that Lemon, who was originally slated as a judge on the show, will replace original host Vernon Kay.

Former X Factor contestant Stacey Solomon will remain in place as co-host.
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Old 30-03-2011, 14:11
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Van damme behind closed doors rating please
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Old 30-03-2011, 14:26
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No it isn't. Online polls are rubbish because the respondants are self selecting.

BARB panels are not self selected.
Online polls on DS are the opinions of those who choose to vote.

BARB panels are "selected by them" apparently. I've never had anyone from BARB knock on my door in the last 24 years of my life. I don't believe the ratings because the only person I know who likes EastEnders is my boyfriend.

And when Crossroads was up against Neighbours back in 2001/2002, everyone I knew in School would come in and talk about Crossroads, Hollyoaks and Family Affairs. No one liked the other soaps round here.
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Old 30-03-2011, 14:27
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Really surprising that the football didn't really dent the other terrestrials at all. Silk should be certain for a recomission now it has proven itself against much tougher competition. CSI also held up much better than I thought.

Interesting news regarding Sing If You Can. Quite shocked that ITV are having Soloman & Lemon presenting a primetime ITV entertainment show though..could be interesting. Also surely they'll have to find a new show for Vernon now too.
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Old 30-03-2011, 14:30
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Piers Morgan Leads CNN Surge, Glenn Beck Slumps

Fuelled by coverage of the middle east unrest and the earthquake in Japan, CNN recorded its first M-F primetime demo win over MSNBC for 6 quarters. It also topped MSNBC across the day in total viewers.

CNN:
Primetime - Up 28% vs 2010
Piers Morgan Tonight - Up 52%
Anderson Cooper 360 - Up 40%
Parker Spitzer/In The Arena - Up 14%

MSNBC:
Primetime - Up 9%
Olbermann/O'Donnell - Down 6%
Rachel Maddow Show - Up 15%
O'Donnell/Ed Show - Up 22%

FOX NEWS:
Primetime - Down 21%
The O'Reilly Factor - Down 18%
Hannity - Down 20%
Greta - Down 28%

Glenn Beck has stolen Piers' headlines, however. While his 5pm show still beats any MSNBC or CNN primetime show by around 150k (50%) in the demo, he was down 38% from this time last year. His future at the channel was already in doubt amid rumours that higher ups had grown tired of him and the hassle he brings. It's possible that his departure could ease tensions behind the scenes at News Corp where many, including members of the Murdoch family, aren't fond of Roger Ailes and the editorial direction of FOX News. Alas, Mr Ailes division is the most profitable at News Corp so he has a lot of clout (to the point that he allegedly prevented Murdoch from openly backing Obama in 2008).

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...quarters/87583
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Old 30-03-2011, 14:41
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This makes sure that it has and represents the right number of young people, the right number of people with Sky, the right number of people who own a PVR, the right number of people in a lower social grade...etc...etc.... in many many ways, the BARB sample is probably one of the most controlled and representative samples in market research.
Yet, over a year on, they still have no Freeview HD homes on their panel.

For the main FTA channels, I'm sure BARB is fine, but for multichannels, it's 'pinch of salt' time.
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Old 30-03-2011, 14:44
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Some more ratings from yesterday:

BBC One
13:45- Doctors: 1.67m (23.6%)
19:30- EastEnders: 8.71m (38.7%)
20:00- Holby City: 5.79m (25%)
* DS soaps roundup says: 5.28m (21.4%)

BBC Two
19:00- Wonders Of The Universe: 1.31m (6.1%)
22:00- Have I Got Old News For You: 1.22m (6.2%)

ITV1
19:00- Emmerdale: 7.14m (34.6%)

Channel 4
17:00- Fern: 930k (6.9%) , +1: 97k (0.5%)
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.14m (5.8%)
20:00- Supersize Vs Superskinny Kids: 1.87m (7.%) , +1: 236k (0.9%)

Channel 5
13:15- Home & Away: 188k (2.6%)
13:45- Neighbours: 762k (10.8%)
17:30- Neighbours: 1.24m (8.4%)
18:00- Home & Away: 820k (4.6%)
19:30- Extraordinary Dogs: 614k (2.7%)
20:00- Tutankhamen: The Mystery Revealed: 827k (3.4%)
22:00- CSI: Miami: 1.22m (6.9%)

BBC Three
22:00- EastEnders: 900k (4.6%)

E4
19:00- Hollyoaks: 494k (2.4%)

5*
18:30- Home & Away: 424k (2.2%)

Primetime Shares
ITV1: 23.3% (+1: 0.4%)
BBC One: 23%
BBC Two: 6.5%
Channel 4: 6.1% (+1: 0.8%)
Channel 5: 5.2%

Ratings include HD and are tape-checked where necessary

Source: DS, DS Soaps
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BBC1 held up really well against the football, with Holby City rating exactly the same as last week (assuming the rating in the TV roundup is correct) and Silk down very little. If an England football match can't dent BBC1 on Tuesdays, what else can (apart from BGT/IAC)? That 7.30-9pm block on Tuesdays for BBC1 is very strong and Holby's audience seems to be very loyal. The other terrestrials also held up well against the football too - I thought CSI would dip below 2m but it was very steady.
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Old 30-03-2011, 15:06
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Some more ratings from yesterday:

BBC One
13:45- Doctors: 1.67m (23.6%)
19:30- EastEnders: 8.71m (38.7%)
20:00- Holby City: 5.79m (25%)
* DS soaps roundup says: 5.28m (21.4%)

BBC Two
19:00- Wonders Of The Universe: 1.31m (6.1%)
22:00- Have I Got Old News For You: 1.22m (6.2%)

ITV1
19:00- Emmerdale: 7.14m (34.6%)

Channel 4
17:00- Fern: 930k (6.9%) , +1: 97k (0.5%)
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.14m (5.8%)
20:00- Supersize Vs Superskinny Kids: 1.87m (7.%) , +1: 236k (0.9%)

Channel 5
13:15- Home & Away: 188k (2.6%)
13:45- Neighbours: 762k (10.8%)
17:30- Neighbours: 1.24m (8.4%)
18:00- Home & Away: 820k (4.6%)
19:30- Extraordinary Dogs: 614k (2.7%)
20:00- Tutankhamen: The Mystery Revealed: 827k (3.4%)
22:00- CSI: Miami: 1.22m (6.9%)

BBC Three
22:00- EastEnders: 900k (4.6%)

E4
19:00- Hollyoaks: 494k (2.4%)

5*
18:30- Home & Away: 424k (2.2%)

Primetime Shares
ITV1: 23.3% (+1: 0.4%)
BBC One: 23%
BBC Two: 6.5%
Channel 4: 6.1% (+1: 0.8%)
Channel 5: 5.2%

Ratings include HD and are tape-checked where necessary

Source: DS, DS Soaps
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BBC1 held up really well against the football, with Holby City rating exactly the same as last week (assuming the rating in the TV roundup is correct) and Silk down very little. If an England football match can't dent BBC1 on Tuesdays, what else can (apart from BGT/IAC)? That 7.30-9pm block on Tuesdays for BBC1 is very strong and Holby's audience seems to be very loyal. The other terrestrials also held up well against the football too - I thought CSI would dip below 2m but it was very steady.
Holby was not shown in Scotland
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Old 30-03-2011, 15:08
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Holby was not shown in Scotland
neither was the football

STV last night:
7:30pm Children's Hospital
8:00pm Vet School
9:00pm Scotland Debates
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Old 30-03-2011, 15:13
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ouch for Katie. good bit of business by ITV2, letting her go..
I would still say 416,300 is good considering she has moved to a pay to view channel.
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Old 30-03-2011, 15:21
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Looks like DS TV's 5.79m rating for Holby City was incorrect. It actually had 5.3m (21.4%) as DS Soaps Roundup and Media Guardian have reported.

A couple more ratings from MG:

BBC Three
23:00- Family Guy: 711,000
23:20- Family Guy: 727,000

They were repeats too, not new episodes. Great night for BBC3 overall.
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Old 30-03-2011, 15:25
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DSO in London is being brought forward to be completed by July, 2012, for the Olympics, according to UK Digital today.Exact date to be confirmed next week. Ulster will now be the last to switch on December 31, 2012.
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Old 30-03-2011, 15:27
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I don't believe the ratings because the only person I know who likes EastEnders is my boyfriend.
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Old 30-03-2011, 15:28
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Yes! Silk will return!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...bc1?CMP=twt_fd
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Old 30-03-2011, 15:31
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Holby was not shown in Scotland
Lucky Scotland.

And good to see that Katie Piper is still holding strong.
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