The interesting thing about Corrie is, why don't ITV play out Coronation Street's second episode from 20:31 to 20:59 instead of 20:28 to 20:56? Viewers are not going to sit around 5 minutes of adverts for the next programme, and will inevitably channel hop.
The Ratings Thread (Part 18)
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EastEnders will air it's 10 min whitney Climax episode as part of comic relief after 8:30pm this Friday which im going to guess will be Comic Relief's peak seeing as Corrie will be over by then too.
The 10min EastEnders episode will air it's repeat as part of Sundays omnibus and also at 9:50pm on BBC3
The 10min EastEnders episode will air it's repeat as part of Sundays omnibus and also at 9:50pm on BBC3
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Of course Marchlands would have fallen but I reckon it would have lost 0.6/0.7m tops comapred to L+O's 1.4m.”
“Of course Marchlands would have fallen but I reckon it would have lost 0.6/0.7m tops comapred to L+O's 1.4m.”
Yes possibly, as Marchlands was non-crime so less of an audience cross over with WTD.
Quote:
“Apologies if I repeat myself. L+O is an established show now, it wasn't the first ever episode last week, viewers know what to expect when they tune in. The fact is it lost 1.4m viewers week-on-week. Thats a huge drop for any established show. In series 3 it shed 1.3m when New Tricks began and also shed 1m when Five showed a Liverpool Europa League game. I know WTD and New Tricks are big rating shows but if L+O was that strong, that popular it wouldnt be losing so many viwers when competiton is increases. The show is fragile, it does well at mopping up casual viewers but is far too easily squeezed out. I have nothing against the show, from the odd episodes ive seen it looks quite good and engaging. However, its main weakness is that you can easily miss an episode and start watching again a few weeks later, which I think is why it struggles to keep viewers every week.”
“Apologies if I repeat myself. L+O is an established show now, it wasn't the first ever episode last week, viewers know what to expect when they tune in. The fact is it lost 1.4m viewers week-on-week. Thats a huge drop for any established show. In series 3 it shed 1.3m when New Tricks began and also shed 1m when Five showed a Liverpool Europa League game. I know WTD and New Tricks are big rating shows but if L+O was that strong, that popular it wouldnt be losing so many viwers when competiton is increases. The show is fragile, it does well at mopping up casual viewers but is far too easily squeezed out. I have nothing against the show, from the odd episodes ive seen it looks quite good and engaging. However, its main weakness is that you can easily miss an episode and start watching again a few weeks later, which I think is why it struggles to keep viewers every week.”
Yeah, Law & Order UK is a pretty established show by now. But I actually don't think a ~1.4m drop is anything abnormal when you consider that one week it was up against a repeat compared to the following week which was up against a top-rated ~6m drama. Even Doc Martin, arguably ITV's most popular drama series, was experiencing similar week-on-week falls/rises when up against Waking The Dead: for its most recent series, the episodes of Doc Martin which faced Waking The Dead averaged 7.5m, however the episodes which didn't averaged 8.9m. Doc Martin is far more established that Law & Order UK and that was being dented by WTD by over a million so I think this suggests that quite a lot of dramas would be dented by WTD as much (or almost as much) as LOUK was last night.
I see you didn't answer my question in my previous post - how many full length 6+ ep drama series have there been in the last five years to launch on weeknights and rate as well as Law & Order UK has done on average, even including the lower rated ~4m's episodes? Hardly, if any. Of course compared to some of the old time big hitters, its ratings might not look strong but if we do a relative comparison to other weekday dramas of its time, it generally does a solid enough job. Yeah, it does well at mopping up casual viewers and gets dented when up against shows like New Tricks and Waking The Dead but it must be really difficult for any drama to hold up well against those two shows. I would agree with what you say about the nature of the show meaning it's more dip-in-dip-out than other shows which have more storylines running across the series but as well as being a disadvantage, that can also come as an advantage too, particularly when it faces normal (or weak) competition.
Quote:
“You seem to have contradicted yourself. You state that people dont say it is a top returning show for ITV then state yourself that if you look at the ratings then it IS a top returning show.”
“You seem to have contradicted yourself. You state that people dont say it is a top returning show for ITV then state yourself that if you look at the ratings then it IS a top returning show.”
I don't really see people posting on here saying it's one of ITV's big hitters, which is what you initially suggested. But statistically it is indeed one of the top rated returning weeknight full drama series from recent years, so if someone did say that, they'd sort of be correct.
Digiguide update :
Quantum of Solace getting it's premiere on ITV1 on Sat 26th March at 8:45pm.
Schedule looks like :
18:30 New You've Been Framed
19:00 Harry Hills TV Burp
19:30 Ant & Dec's Push the Button
20:45 Film : Quantum of Solace
22:45 ITV News
BBC One have
18:10 Total Wipeout : Champion of Champions
19:10 So You Think You Can Dance
20:10 National Lottery : Secret Fortune
21:00 Casualty
Quantum of Solace getting it's premiere on ITV1 on Sat 26th March at 8:45pm.
Schedule looks like :
18:30 New You've Been Framed
19:00 Harry Hills TV Burp
19:30 Ant & Dec's Push the Button
20:45 Film : Quantum of Solace
22:45 ITV News
BBC One have
18:10 Total Wipeout : Champion of Champions
19:10 So You Think You Can Dance
20:10 National Lottery : Secret Fortune
21:00 Casualty
This doesn't look like a great schedule for Dancing on Ice Final to me, what did they do last year - all in one block ?
Sun 27th March
17:35 Harry Hills TV Burp
18:05 Film : Mr Bean's Holiday
19:40 Dancing on Ice Final
22:00 ITV News
Sun 27th March
17:35 Harry Hills TV Burp
18:05 Film : Mr Bean's Holiday
19:40 Dancing on Ice Final
22:00 ITV News
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“EastEnders will air it's 10 min whitney Climax episode as part of comic relief after 8:30pm this Friday which im going to guess will be Comic Relief's peak seeing as Corrie will be over by then too.
The 10min EastEnders episode will air it's repeat as part of Sundays omnibus and also at 9:50pm on BBC3”
“EastEnders will air it's 10 min whitney Climax episode as part of comic relief after 8:30pm this Friday which im going to guess will be Comic Relief's peak seeing as Corrie will be over by then too.
The 10min EastEnders episode will air it's repeat as part of Sundays omnibus and also at 9:50pm on BBC3”
Bizarre decision.
What's "comic" about it?
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Bizarre decision.
What's "comic" about it?”
“Bizarre decision.
What's "comic" about it?
”
The whitney storyline was written/planned last year with Comic Relief.
EastEnders had worked with 'Comic Relief' for the past year or so working on a storyline about a girl 'whitney' being sold for sex so i guess the BBC/Comic relief felt it right to air the episode on the night.
It also features quite a big stunt aswell
I agree it seems a bizzare decision.
Especially as it will probably be surrounded by someone like Graham Norton linking into and out of the show lightly slagging it off or something.
Do a special thing for Comic Relief yes, but something that is part of the ongoing storyline is wierd.
Especially as it will probably be surrounded by someone like Graham Norton linking into and out of the show lightly slagging it off or something.
Do a special thing for Comic Relief yes, but something that is part of the ongoing storyline is wierd.
When do people think BGT will start 9th April ? With something like this :
18:00 You've Been Framed
18:30 Harry Hill's TV Burp Gold
19:00 The Cube
20:00 Britains Got Talent
21:30 Piers Morgan's Life Stories
What's ITV's schedule likely to be post Dancing on Ice ?
There are 4 x Lewis episodes waiting to be broadcast. 5 x Vera episodes, both presumably destined for Sundays.
Will they stretch out BGT over the whole weekend ?
19:00 Britains Got Talent
20:00 Lewis / Vera
Popstar to Operastar is destined for Sunday isn't it ? Too soon for that to start ?
So many questions
18:00 You've Been Framed
18:30 Harry Hill's TV Burp Gold
19:00 The Cube
20:00 Britains Got Talent
21:30 Piers Morgan's Life Stories
What's ITV's schedule likely to be post Dancing on Ice ?
There are 4 x Lewis episodes waiting to be broadcast. 5 x Vera episodes, both presumably destined for Sundays.
Will they stretch out BGT over the whole weekend ?
19:00 Britains Got Talent
20:00 Lewis / Vera
Popstar to Operastar is destined for Sunday isn't it ? Too soon for that to start ?
So many questions
[quote=Andy23;48797840]I agree it seems a bizzare decision.
Especially as it will probably be surrounded by someone like Graham Norton linking into and out of the show lightly slagging it off or something.
Do a special thing for Comic Relief yes, but something that is part of the ongoing storyline is wierd.[/QUOTE]The storyline was for 'comic relief' it features a girl being sold/used for sex which is something that comic relief are trying to highlight and what better way to do it then in EastEnders.
Im guessing Thursdays EastEnders will end on a cliffhanger with a message saying the next episode will be after 8:30 on Comic Relief.
I think it's a good idea and it might get the message across alot better then those trailers
Especially as it will probably be surrounded by someone like Graham Norton linking into and out of the show lightly slagging it off or something.
Do a special thing for Comic Relief yes, but something that is part of the ongoing storyline is wierd.[/QUOTE]The storyline was for 'comic relief' it features a girl being sold/used for sex which is something that comic relief are trying to highlight and what better way to do it then in EastEnders.
Im guessing Thursdays EastEnders will end on a cliffhanger with a message saying the next episode will be after 8:30 on Comic Relief.
I think it's a good idea and it might get the message across alot better then those trailers
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“This doesn't look like a great schedule for Dancing on Ice Final to me, what did they do last year - all in one block ?
Sun 27th March
17:35 Harry Hills TV Burp
18:05 Film : Mr Bean's Holiday
19:40 Dancing on Ice Final
22:00 ITV News”
“This doesn't look like a great schedule for Dancing on Ice Final to me, what did they do last year - all in one block ?
Sun 27th March
17:35 Harry Hills TV Burp
18:05 Film : Mr Bean's Holiday
19:40 Dancing on Ice Final
22:00 ITV News”
How bizarre. Why not have Lewis or Vera on from 21:00?
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Maybe we gave The Biggest Loser too much of a hard time? I'm guessing L&O: UK is a lot more expensive to make, and yet if the latter continues in a similar vein to last night, then the ratings may prove not too dissimilar.”
“Maybe we gave The Biggest Loser too much of a hard time? I'm guessing L&O: UK is a lot more expensive to make, and yet if the latter continues in a similar vein to last night, then the ratings may prove not too dissimilar.”
TBL seemed to be tanking when it was against Silent Witness, but when this ended, ratings went up to a not too bad 4 million. However, a reality show is a cheaper programme than drama and a flop reality show is probably less painful to ITV than an expensive drama that flops, and they've had a few of both genres in the last few years( Love Island and Rockstars are the most obvious).
Not sure if its been posted but anyone know how Crufts did over the weekend, wherever it was shown?
Someone I know went last Friday and it was pretty much deserted in comparison to previous years apparently.
Someone I know went last Friday and it was pretty much deserted in comparison to previous years apparently.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Not sure if its been posted but anyone know how Crufts did over the weekend, wherever it was shown?
Someone I know went last Friday and it was pretty much deserted in comparison to previous years apparently.”
“Not sure if its been posted but anyone know how Crufts did over the weekend, wherever it was shown?
Someone I know went last Friday and it was pretty much deserted in comparison to previous years apparently.”
Crufts ratings on More4 (including +1):
Friday: 405k
Saturday: 609k
Sunday: 731k
Great numbers for More4, especially Sunday's.
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Crufts ratings on More4 (including +1):
Friday: 405k
Saturday: 609k
Sunday: 731k
Great numbers for More4, especially Sunday's.”
“Crufts ratings on More4 (including +1):
Friday: 405k
Saturday: 609k
Sunday: 731k
Great numbers for More4, especially Sunday's.”
Thanks for that.
Not great for Law and Order but at least it stayed before 4m I guess. the Dancing on Icve scheduling is stupid, but who thought ITV would do anything sensible? 
Good for the soaps last night, and Waking the Dead held up well.
Good for the soaps last night, and Waking the Dead held up well.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“In the US, Chuck's survival chances were dealt a cruel blow last night as it fell to a series low of 1.6 in the demo. Ouch! I think it might have ran out of lives.
The Event was down to just 1.2, in a nightmare of a Monday evening for NBC.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...hit-lows/85723”
“In the US, Chuck's survival chances were dealt a cruel blow last night as it fell to a series low of 1.6 in the demo. Ouch! I think it might have ran out of lives.
The Event was down to just 1.2, in a nightmare of a Monday evening for NBC.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...hit-lows/85723”
Not sure that The Event will make it to May with those numbers. I'd tend to agree about Chuck as well - and it's likely to slip a bit further by May.
Incidentally, NBC's sister network USA, easily beat it from 9pm-11pm with WWE Raw averaging a 2.2 in the A18-49 demo.
In cable news, Anderson Cooper (in Japan and in his element) came within a whisker of beating Bill O'Reilly in the 25-54 demo but fell just short. CNN beat FOX News in 25-54 for the day as a whole but lost out in primetime and trailed quite considerably in total viewers for both total day and primetime. However, CNN did comfortably beat MSNBC in all measures.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/...ch-14-2_b57635
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“TBL seemed to be tanking when it was against Silent Witness, but when this ended, ratings went up to a not too bad 4 million. However, a reality show is a cheaper programme than drama and a flop reality show is probably less painful to ITV than an expensive drama that flops, and they've had a few of both genres in the last few years( Love Island and Rockstars are the most obvious).”
“TBL seemed to be tanking when it was against Silent Witness, but when this ended, ratings went up to a not too bad 4 million. However, a reality show is a cheaper programme than drama and a flop reality show is probably less painful to ITV than an expensive drama that flops, and they've had a few of both genres in the last few years( Love Island and Rockstars are the most obvious).”
Stretching the definition of the phrase 'last few years' there, just so you shoehorn in a mention of Love Island.
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Yeah, Law & Order UK is a pretty established show by now. But I actually don't think a ~1.4m drop is anything abnormal when you consider that one week it was up against a repeat compared to the following week which was up against a top-rated ~6m drama. Even Doc Martin, arguably ITV's most popular drama series, was experiencing similar week-on-week falls/rises when up against Waking The Dead: for its most recent series, the episodes of Doc Martin which faced Waking The Dead averaged 7.5m, however the episodes which didn't averaged 8.9m. Doc Martin is far more established that Law & Order UK and that was being dented by WTD by over a million so I think this suggests that quite a lot of dramas would be dented by WTD as much (or almost as much) as LOUK was last night.”
“Yeah, Law & Order UK is a pretty established show by now. But I actually don't think a ~1.4m drop is anything abnormal when you consider that one week it was up against a repeat compared to the following week which was up against a top-rated ~6m drama. Even Doc Martin, arguably ITV's most popular drama series, was experiencing similar week-on-week falls/rises when up against Waking The Dead: for its most recent series, the episodes of Doc Martin which faced Waking The Dead averaged 7.5m, however the episodes which didn't averaged 8.9m. Doc Martin is far more established that Law & Order UK and that was being dented by WTD by over a million so I think this suggests that quite a lot of dramas would be dented by WTD as much (or almost as much) as LOUK was last night.”
Percentage wise a drop of 1.4m from 5.5m is a lot more severe than 1.4m from 8.9m.
Quote:
“I see you didn't answer my question in my previous post - how many full length 6+ ep drama series have there been in the last five years to launch on weeknights and rate as well as Law & Order UK has done on average, even including the lower rated ~4m's episodes? Hardly, if any. Of course compared to some of the old time big hitters, its ratings might not look strong but if we do a relative comparison to other weekday dramas of its time, it generally does a solid enough job. Yeah, it does well at mopping up casual viewers and gets dented when up against shows like New Tricks and Waking The Dead but it must be really difficult for any drama to hold up well against those two shows. I would agree with what you say about the nature of the show meaning it's more dip-in-dip-out than other shows which have more storylines running across the series but as well as being a disadvantage, that can also come as an advantage too, particularly when it faces normal (or weak) competition.”
“I see you didn't answer my question in my previous post - how many full length 6+ ep drama series have there been in the last five years to launch on weeknights and rate as well as Law & Order UK has done on average, even including the lower rated ~4m's episodes? Hardly, if any. Of course compared to some of the old time big hitters, its ratings might not look strong but if we do a relative comparison to other weekday dramas of its time, it generally does a solid enough job. Yeah, it does well at mopping up casual viewers and gets dented when up against shows like New Tricks and Waking The Dead but it must be really difficult for any drama to hold up well against those two shows. I would agree with what you say about the nature of the show meaning it's more dip-in-dip-out than other shows which have more storylines running across the series but as well as being a disadvantage, that can also come as an advantage too, particularly when it faces normal (or weak) competition.”
Apologies, I thought the question was rhetorical. Not many I can think of, most successful new dramas have been on Sunday nights. The ones that I can think of are Waterloo Road, Ashes To Ashes, Benidorm (I class it as a comedy drama). You make a fair point with it being one of a few hit new weekday dramas (although 6 part series are a rarity nowdays, with stripped and 2/3 parters commisioned more) but I have never said it has rated badly or wasn't moderately successful. I just think its success has been over-exaggerated and it has a relatively small core viewership.
Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.27m
18:30 Today Tonight 1.23m
19:00 Home and Away 1.01m
19:30 My Kitchen Rules 1.42m
20:30 Packed to the Rafters 1.71m
*series low. Rafters now enters hiatus until June.
Nine
18:00 Nine News 1.17m
18:30 A Current Affair 1.02m
19:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 0.63m excluding Brisbane
19:30 The Big Bang Theory (R) 0.73m
20:00 The Big Bang Theory (R) 0.87m
20:30 Top Gear 0.76m
Ten
18:00 6pm with George Negus 0.42m
18:30 Ten Evening News 0.37m
19:00 The 7pm Project 0.74m
19:30 Talkin' 'Bout Your Generation 0.91m
20:40 NCIS 1.07m
ABC1
19:00 ABC News 0.98m
19:30 7.30 Japanese Earthquake Special 0.74m
20:30 How Earth Made Us 0.52m
Eleven
18:30 Neighbours 0.30m
18:00 Seven News 1.27m
18:30 Today Tonight 1.23m
19:00 Home and Away 1.01m
19:30 My Kitchen Rules 1.42m
20:30 Packed to the Rafters 1.71m
*series low. Rafters now enters hiatus until June.
Nine
18:00 Nine News 1.17m
18:30 A Current Affair 1.02m
19:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 0.63m excluding Brisbane
19:30 The Big Bang Theory (R) 0.73m
20:00 The Big Bang Theory (R) 0.87m
20:30 Top Gear 0.76m
Ten
18:00 6pm with George Negus 0.42m
18:30 Ten Evening News 0.37m
19:00 The 7pm Project 0.74m
19:30 Talkin' 'Bout Your Generation 0.91m
20:40 NCIS 1.07m
ABC1
19:00 ABC News 0.98m
19:30 7.30 Japanese Earthquake Special 0.74m
20:30 How Earth Made Us 0.52m
Eleven
18:30 Neighbours 0.30m
I agree with rzt about Law and Order: UK. Yes, last night's rating was pretty low but being dented by WTD isn't too much of a surprise. I suspect both dramas would have got a million or so more if it hadn't aired against the other. L&O is very dip-in, dip-out, which can be both an advantage and a disadvantage for it. The DVD release dates suggest that the next series will air in July/August, which is a good move as I doubt it'll face much, if any drama competition and it doesn't seem like the sort of show that would be dented by airing in the Summer.
Ultimately, whilst last night's rating wasn't great, 4.1m (or 4.3m with +1) is hardly a disaster and like rzt said, how many other dramas would claim that sort of audience against WTD. People say that Silk is doing well, but that only got 0.5m more last week against far, far weaker competition so I don't think last night's rating is too bad for it in the long run.
I wonder how much it costs per episode. With them making 13 per year in bulk, and the sets pretty fixed, I can't imagine it being one of the more expensive dramas on TV, so maybe ITV can afford to schedule it as they do. I wouldn't be surprised if they view it in a similar fashion as the BBC view Waterloo Road, in that it'll get them a reasonable audience pretty much wherever but isn't a spectacular performer wherever it goes. I suspect it costs a bit more than Waterloo Road as the calibre of actors is much higher, but it's worth a thought...
I presume they're limited by the number of ads they can show in one night. I know they aired Lewis after the 2 hour DOI Final in 2008 and 2009 but ITV can air more ads per 2 hour programme now than they could then and we all know that ITV like to milk things for all they're worth. I know they still run things like Marple at 9pm after a busy pre-watershed schedule but Lewis gets much higher ratings than Marple (and they'll be hoping that Vera will too). I do think that the scheduling is sloppy though, I'd have gone with this:
17:25 - Mr Bean's Holiday
19:00 - Dancing on Ice Final
21:20 - Music Special
Meaning that DOI can end at a more reasonable time and start at the same time as Countryfile, but still strangle WTD, and the music special would do better at 21:20 than at 21:00 due to other channels being 20 minutes in to their programmes.
I think rzt said BGT is likely to return on 23rd April based on the sponsorship dates. I think The Cube and Life Stories will both return on the 9th though, as The Cube is 9 episodes and Life Stories is 7 (including the When Piers Met Lord Lloyd Webber special), so The Cube would end on BGT Final night and Life Stories would finish the week before the Champions League Final. I suspect they'll have The Cube at 20:00 and Piers at 21:00 on the 9th and the 16th with movies or Best of TV Burp/YBF before it, before going to your schedule from the 23rd (but with BGT for only an hour from the 30th).
I think they will air BGT across the weekend. If it does start on 23rd April, they'll have 5 weeks until the Champions League Final and the start of the lives, so with 2 shows a week, I think they'll have 8 audition shows (1 more than last year), the YouTube show they announced recently and a selection show (they can easily get an hour out of that).
So, I think on the 3rd, 10th and 17th they'll have factual at 19:00 with Lewis at 20:00 with BGT slotting in at 20:00 from the 24th with Lewis, and later Vera at 21:00. 4 episodes each of Lewis and Vera takes them to the 22nd May, which fits perfectly as the BGT lives should then start on the 29th.
I think Popstar To Operastar is due back in June. With the 29th being the last week of BGT, it could start as early as the 5th June but ITV might want a break between the two talent shows.
Ultimately, whilst last night's rating wasn't great, 4.1m (or 4.3m with +1) is hardly a disaster and like rzt said, how many other dramas would claim that sort of audience against WTD. People say that Silk is doing well, but that only got 0.5m more last week against far, far weaker competition so I don't think last night's rating is too bad for it in the long run.
I wonder how much it costs per episode. With them making 13 per year in bulk, and the sets pretty fixed, I can't imagine it being one of the more expensive dramas on TV, so maybe ITV can afford to schedule it as they do. I wouldn't be surprised if they view it in a similar fashion as the BBC view Waterloo Road, in that it'll get them a reasonable audience pretty much wherever but isn't a spectacular performer wherever it goes. I suspect it costs a bit more than Waterloo Road as the calibre of actors is much higher, but it's worth a thought...
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“How bizarre. Why not have Lewis or Vera on from 21:00?”
“How bizarre. Why not have Lewis or Vera on from 21:00?”
I presume they're limited by the number of ads they can show in one night. I know they aired Lewis after the 2 hour DOI Final in 2008 and 2009 but ITV can air more ads per 2 hour programme now than they could then and we all know that ITV like to milk things for all they're worth. I know they still run things like Marple at 9pm after a busy pre-watershed schedule but Lewis gets much higher ratings than Marple (and they'll be hoping that Vera will too). I do think that the scheduling is sloppy though, I'd have gone with this:
17:25 - Mr Bean's Holiday
19:00 - Dancing on Ice Final
21:20 - Music Special
Meaning that DOI can end at a more reasonable time and start at the same time as Countryfile, but still strangle WTD, and the music special would do better at 21:20 than at 21:00 due to other channels being 20 minutes in to their programmes.
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“When do people think BGT will start 9th April ? With something like this :
18:00 You've Been Framed
18:30 Harry Hill's TV Burp Gold
19:00 The Cube
20:00 Britains Got Talent
21:30 Piers Morgan's Life Stories
What's ITV's schedule likely to be post Dancing on Ice ?
There are 4 x Lewis episodes waiting to be broadcast. 5 x Vera episodes, both presumably destined for Sundays.
Will they stretch out BGT over the whole weekend ?
19:00 Britains Got Talent
20:00 Lewis / Vera
Popstar to Operastar is destined for Sunday isn't it ? Too soon for that to start ?
So many questions”
“When do people think BGT will start 9th April ? With something like this :
18:00 You've Been Framed
18:30 Harry Hill's TV Burp Gold
19:00 The Cube
20:00 Britains Got Talent
21:30 Piers Morgan's Life Stories
What's ITV's schedule likely to be post Dancing on Ice ?
There are 4 x Lewis episodes waiting to be broadcast. 5 x Vera episodes, both presumably destined for Sundays.
Will they stretch out BGT over the whole weekend ?
19:00 Britains Got Talent
20:00 Lewis / Vera
Popstar to Operastar is destined for Sunday isn't it ? Too soon for that to start ?
So many questions
”
I think rzt said BGT is likely to return on 23rd April based on the sponsorship dates. I think The Cube and Life Stories will both return on the 9th though, as The Cube is 9 episodes and Life Stories is 7 (including the When Piers Met Lord Lloyd Webber special), so The Cube would end on BGT Final night and Life Stories would finish the week before the Champions League Final. I suspect they'll have The Cube at 20:00 and Piers at 21:00 on the 9th and the 16th with movies or Best of TV Burp/YBF before it, before going to your schedule from the 23rd (but with BGT for only an hour from the 30th).
I think they will air BGT across the weekend. If it does start on 23rd April, they'll have 5 weeks until the Champions League Final and the start of the lives, so with 2 shows a week, I think they'll have 8 audition shows (1 more than last year), the YouTube show they announced recently and a selection show (they can easily get an hour out of that).
So, I think on the 3rd, 10th and 17th they'll have factual at 19:00 with Lewis at 20:00 with BGT slotting in at 20:00 from the 24th with Lewis, and later Vera at 21:00. 4 episodes each of Lewis and Vera takes them to the 22nd May, which fits perfectly as the BGT lives should then start on the 29th.
I think Popstar To Operastar is due back in June. With the 29th being the last week of BGT, it could start as early as the 5th June but ITV might want a break between the two talent shows.
On the Mrs Brown thread, they mention not only a second series but a Christmas special. I know it's far too early for doing Christmas schedules but I think Mrs Brown's Boys on Christmas Day would be good although I would be happy with it airing on Christmas Eve or Boxing Day. I would have Eastenders at 8pm, Miranda at 8.30pm, Eastenders at 9pm, Royle Family at 9.30pm then Mrs Brown's Boys at 10.30pm.
Just heard on the radio that Kyle Sandilands has left the Australian X Factor and the only confirmed judge so far is Guy Sebastian. Sandilands has said its because he's too busy to do it, or could Seven be looking at making quite a few changes, going for some cheaper judges?
Originally Posted by Score:
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Ultimately, whilst last night's rating wasn't great, 4.1m (or 4.3m with +1) is hardly a disaster and like rzt said, how many other dramas would claim that sort of audience against WTD. People say that Silk is doing well, but that only got 0.5m more last week against far, far weaker competition so I don't think last night's rating is too bad for it in the long run.
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Ultimately, whilst last night's rating wasn't great, 4.1m (or 4.3m with +1) is hardly a disaster and like rzt said, how many other dramas would claim that sort of audience against WTD. People say that Silk is doing well, but that only got 0.5m more last week against far, far weaker competition so I don't think last night's rating is too bad for it in the long run.
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Silk isn't a traditional crime drama like Law and Order and it doesn't have a 10m lead in either! Law and Order was struggling against the likes of the Young Ones and Traffic cops last Autumn. The excuse then was that it should go back to Mondays
and that Drama didn't suit Thursdays. Marchlands etc have proved that its L&O thats problem and not the slot. Its very lucky that BBC one hasn't scheduled WTD Monday/ Tuesday this year as it would have knocked another 1m off the rating for L & O.
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“Silk isn't a traditional crime drama like Law and Order and it doesn't have a 10m lead in either! Law and Order was struggling against the likes of the Young Ones and Traffic cops last Autumn. The excuse then was that it should go back to Mondays and that Drama didn't suit Thursdays etc. Marchlands etc have proved that its L&O thtas problem and not the slot.”
“Silk isn't a traditional crime drama like Law and Order and it doesn't have a 10m lead in either! Law and Order was struggling against the likes of the Young Ones and Traffic cops last Autumn. The excuse then was that it should go back to Mondays
and that Drama didn't suit Thursdays etc. Marchlands etc have proved that its L&O thtas problem and not the slot.”
I think L&Os big problem is that its not a huge draw with the 55+ age group that give New Tricks and WTD their big gross audience figures but L&O is doing ok (not brilliant but reasonably well) amongst younger age ranges and thats enough for now to sustain it.
If we had demos for this monday vs last Monday that could resolve the point?
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