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Exactly - do we know the average for the 10pm slot at the moment, as I struggle to see BB topping 1.5m regularly, which would certainly be below the likes of CSI and I suspect other imports too. Looking at past figures the averages roughly seem to be 1.0m across the 7 10pm slots. And considering there's about 6 repeats there it's not that bad. Investing a large sum of money in something which is unlikely to get much more than that figure is bizarre imo. I also don't think the spin off shows will boost 5* much, considering E4's spin off shows were very low during the last series IIRC. |
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I think C4 should stick with CDWM in my opinion. It rates higher, and the show doesn't seem tired yet, so make the most of it. Being a student, Come Dine is HUGELY popular and I know our teatimes are not the same without it!!
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Newsnight started a bit late last night....because the jazz band on Later With Jools Holland wouldn't shut the **** up
![]() Check out Jools's face from 5 minutes in. They're probably still playing now, with no lights on and the audience long since departed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUg6ykKWeTI |
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Newsnight started a bit late last night....because the jazz band on Later With Jools Holland wouldn't shut the **** up
![]() Check out Jools's face from 5 minutes in. They're probably still playing now, with no lights on and the audience long since departed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUg6ykKWeTI ![]() At least they let Elbow play out in full. I was worried they would cut away early, which is what the commercial channels would have done. |
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Don't mean to bring this back up, but MG say the Big Brother deal for Channel 5 is £200m for 2 years... so £100 million per year. That seems a huge fee. I know the Channel 4 deal was a lot, but I don't think it was near £100 million per year, was it? Paying that much in my view is ridiculous.
Does anyone know Channel 5's programming budget as well, because that £100 million per year deal must have took a mammoth slice out of it. However, the nature of BB, which is an almost impossible show to repeat and has no DVD potential( the DVDs stopped after the fourth series due to very poor sales), means Channel 5 need to make money while it's running. This means use every trick in the book to keep BB in the public eye: billboard advertising, the Desmons tabloids, HEAT magazine, Vanessa, even using rival shows like This Morning. Also don't be surprised if Des decides to sex it up in a late slot. |
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But as far as I remember, it was announced in January 2009 that Countryfile would be moving to evenings from that spring. That is definetely enough time for ITV to try their usual tactics and get in first! But I do appreciate your post. At least it's factual.
![]() ![]() Countrywise was born out of ITV reducing its regional programming in primetime. It was originally a collection of old clips from the regional shows and probably started out a sop to those criticising ITV for reducing primetime regional opt outs. |
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Channel 4 has had much more factual success in recent years with shows like Undercover Boss, Secret Millionaire, One Born Every Minute, Big Fat Gypsy Weddings (admittedly some of them like SM are rating lower now, but the first few series were doing really well). One Born Every Minute, especially, is a really good relatively cheap format with a simple concept which can run for 12 episodes per series and would've worked well for ITV.
The nadir of course was the likes of Tycoon, Natural Born Sellers and You Don't Know You're Born, which were all straight rip-offs of BBC formats, but ridiculously contrived. You Don't Know You're Born is a classic example. Nobody wants to watch a programme that's like Who Do You Think You Are only worse. And if you rip off BBC2 programmes, you get BBC2 audiences. Or lower. The other thing is that even the good ones are in no way distinctive, there was Driving Mum and Dad Mad, which was similar to all the parenting shows on BBC3. Any channel can do these shows. They can't all do drama and light entertainment. |
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Maybe ITV should look at current affairs in a tuesday slot. Something like World In Action as well as a Cook Report type show might be something might be cost effective programming that although not massive ratings draws, may help raise the channels profile.
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so your "fact" is really just speculation.
![]() Countrywise was born out of ITV reducing its regional programming in primetime. It was originally a collection of old clips from the regional shows and probably started out a sop to those criticising ITV for reducing primetime regional opt outs. It's exactly the same as the BBC ripping off Pop Idol and making the abysmal Fame Academy, but at least Countrywise is a half decent show. |
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No it's not speculation. My goodness you are very defensive of ITV1! Sorry to offend you! Common sense tells everyone that if Countryfile wasn't successful then Countrywise wouldn't exist! The only person not accepting that is you.
It's exactly the same as the BBC ripping off Pop Idol and making the abysmal Fame Academy, but at least Countrywise is a half decent show. Nobody though is denying the switch to 60 minutes is undoubtedly a reaction to Countryfile - and arguably a bigger risk than Countryfile itself moving to primetime considering most ITV shows pitted against EastEnders actually hold up rather well. |
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Mean Girls has some kind of spell on people. This is the umpteenth repeat on Film4, and it's the #1 TT in the UK, and Film4 is #7.
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Edit: It's getting confusing typing in Countrywise and Countryfile so many times
!Found this piece from February 2009: "ITV set for copycat of BBC's Countryfile" http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/...5875-21140017/ ![]() And that's from the Mirror, essentially ITV's in-house paper! It even quotes an ITV source: "Elements of Countryfile and The One Show are being put together in a magazine-style format." Over to you, George? ![]() Quote:
Looks like another contender for Tuesday night 'Flopzone' status :
Military Driving School (with Jeremy Kyle) http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...l/default.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS1le_8ZhOU ![]() Quote:
It was very funny watching live.
![]() At least they let Elbow play out in full. I was worried they would cut away early, which is what the commercial channels would have done. |
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Looks like another contender for Tuesday night 'Flopzone' status :
Military Driving School (with Jeremy Kyle) http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...l/default.html however ITV really need to obey there own embargos Quote:
The content of this press pack is strictly embargoed until 00.01 Tues 12 April 2011*
why even make it avabile to view before that date?
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Maybe ITV should look at current affairs in a tuesday slot. Something like World In Action as well as a Cook Report type show might be something might be cost effective programming that although not massive ratings draws, may help raise the channels profile.
Change the look back to conservative and professional, install a World in Action-type show at 7.30pm on Tuesday's, followed by a Cook Report show, and a factual show at 9pm - and maybe we'll see some dismal ratings to begin with, but maybe they'll slowly improve and whatever happens, ITV's reputation will rocket in that department. |
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however ITV really need to obey there own embargos why even make it avabile to view before that date? |
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I think it's just an instruction to the press not to publish any features based on the press pack material until that date.
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What Australia Watched: Wednesday 6th April
Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.15m 18:30 Today Tonight 1.15m 19:00 Home & Away 0.99m 19:30 My Kitchen Rules 1.35m 20:30 Criminal Minds 1.02m Nine 18:00 Nine News 1.04m 18:30 A Current Affair 0.98m 19:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 0.57m excluding Brisbane *axed from timeslot nationally as of next week; *will be replaced by The Big Bang Theory. 19:30 The Big Bang Theory 0.99m 20:00 Mike & Molly 0.78m 20:30 The Farmer Wants a Wife - Reunion 1.12m Ten 17:00 Ten News at Five 0.65m 18:30 6:30 with George Negus 0.42m 19:00 The 7pm Project 0.76m 19:30 The Biggest Loser: Families 0.92m 20:30 Lie to Me 0.41m ![]() Eleven 18:30 Neighbours 0.40m |
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Negus still slighty head of Neighbours, but im not sure he is doing that much better in the new time slot.
Poor night for TEN over all, one of many gone, and to come I am sure. Has TEN ever considered MasterChef: 365 Like the normal MasterChef but on every day of the year
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ITV1 laying down for the night works again for BBC1. Candy Cabs did very well. Frankly, no programme is going to work in the 8pm slot for ITV outside the soaps and top reality shows and the sooner they realise that the better.
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Caroline Aherne comedy 'The Security Guards' confirmed for ITV1.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-a-decade.html |
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The Security Guards is likely to be an hour long rather than a half-hour but given that Caroline Aherne has written hour long Royle Family specials plus The Fattest Man in Britain which was two hour long, it should turn out fine.
The cast looks good especially Brendan O'Carroll who had a small role in The Fattest Man in Britain although I imagine they'll be shooting Security Guards in July/August as he's doing Good Mourning Mrs Brown from April to July then recording Series 2 of Mrs Brown's Boys in September followed by the second leg of the tour! Candy Cabs did really well, it may dip but it shows there is an audience for drama that isn't crime or soap. The Australian drama Packed to the Rafters has proved to be a hit after 4 series and I wonder if BBC One or ITV1 would consider remaking it. |
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That would be 40 pc of their programming budget and would mean even more TV movies, Vanessa and repeats of John Wayne films. I think £ 40 million a year is nearer the mark, about 16 pc of their programming budget.
Last year (2010) it was £135m. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...el-6-channel-5 Has it really been increased by 85%? |
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The Security Guards is likely to be an hour long rather than a half-hour but given that Caroline Aherne has written hour long Royle Family specials plus The Fattest Man in Britain which was two hour long, it should turn out fine.
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The Australian drama Packed to the Rafters has proved to be a hit after 4 series and I wonder if BBC One or ITV1 would consider remaking it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packed_to_the_Rafters#Plot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Plac...V_series)#Plot Also, the last time the BBC adapted a smash-hit Aussie comedy, Mother And Son, it turned into the disastrous Keeping Mum. (One of about 10 brand new sitcoms BBC1 made in 1997, every single one of which flopped, hence the shocking lack of sitcoms on BBC1 these days.) |
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Denise Van Outen on Richard Bacon's Radio 5 Live, on her withdrawal from OK TV...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12990686 |
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