Which handset is the King of Smartphones? Gadget Show, 14 March 2011

Stuart P · 15-03-2011, 21:27

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Oh for goodness sake, I wish I hadn't asked the flipping question now!

Can anyone, WHO ACTUALLY OWNS THE NEXUS S, give proper feedback about battery life? Can you reasonably get at least a day's use out of the phone without needing to tweak, underclock and generally faff about?

read my earlier post!

Vallhund · 15-03-2011, 21:33

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

That is absolutely correct and a great post.

I think it is silly to tie yourself to one platform as if it were your favourite football team. Just assess your needs and pick the best one. If another phone is the best for someone else, great for them.

What I want are a:
Good UI
Good Display
Good Apps
Long Battery Life
Hard QWERTY keyboard

Any set that gives me that is in the running.

linkinpark875 · 15-03-2011, 21:59

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Originally Posted by DotNetWill

They should just get it over and down with and rename "The Gadget Show" to "Apple Bum Loving".

TBH the whole show is sickening from their reviews to the fun way it's filmed. Does us all a favour and die a quick! A small nuclear device on set might help.

But come on the iPhone 4 is the best all round build, camera, app store you can buy.

I really don't think anything can rival it. I had a C905 at the time of the 3GS now IPhone 4.

If there was something better I'd look at it but theres no genuine alternative just a few phones that have a bonus of s memory card or flash support.

DotNetWill · 15-03-2011, 22:25

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Originally Posted by linkinpark875

But come on the iPhone 4 is the best all round build, camera, app store you can buy.

I really don't think anything can rival it. I had a C905 at the time of the 3GS now IPhone 4.

If there was something better I'd look at it but theres no genuine alternative just a few phones that have a bonus of s memory card or flash support.

I've got one and it is, but the way that the gadget show go about it and the way they talk about Apple products is ridiculous. It's like it's written by Vallhund and Soundburst's love child.

Stiggles · 15-03-2011, 22:30

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Originally Posted by linkinpark875

But come on the iPhone 4 is the best all round build, camera, app store you can buy.

I really don't think anything can rival it. I had a C905 at the time of the 3GS now IPhone 4.

If there was something better I'd look at it but theres no genuine alternative just a few phones that have a bonus of s memory card or flash support.

Of course things can rival it seeing as its not the top dog now!

App store, well depends. Apple one was better but now Google's marketplace for android has caught up, devs now want to concentrate on it more as it pays better than apple, so i can see this slipping up from apple soon enough.

Camera, well i can say the nokia N8 wallops the iphone as does my phone, Build wise i prefer my desire hd to my old iphone 4 feels more sturdier.

The only thing i can see the iphone has better is its screen. Other than that it falls over now.

Iphone 5 will take over as top dog when it comes out then will fall from it again. That cycle will continue over and over.

linkinpark875 · 15-03-2011, 22:33

The Nokia N8 is a 12MP and way better than most phone cameras but it's probably not the best smart phone. I had the SE Satio and can honestly say you don't need 12MP in a phone. 5-8MP is good enough for anybody or any digital camera.

IslandNiles · 15-03-2011, 22:34

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

App store, well depends. Apple one was better but now Google's marketplace for android has caught up, devs now want to concentrate on it more as it pays better than apple, so i can see this slipping up from apple soon enough.

The Google Marketplace isn't yet as big as the App Store and isn't as profitable for developers. When you say it pays better, be only evidence I've seen for that was from one developer, whose app made all its money from in-app purchases anyway.

Red Arrow · 15-03-2011, 22:38

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Originally Posted by IslandNiles

The Google Marketplace isn't yet as big as the App Store and isn't as profitable for developers. When you say it pays better, be only evidence I've seen for that was from one developer, whose app made all its money from in-app purchases anyway.

I think maybe it's in reference to the amount of money Google take in the form of commission per sale compared to Apple.

freeshat · 15-03-2011, 22:38

Gadget show should be renamed Ripoff Show.

I can never forget when they reviewed waterproof coats, and they rated a coat the best that cost about £600 better than one that cost about £50 just because the cheap jacket let in one microscopic drop of water.

Vallhund · 15-03-2011, 22:59

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Originally Posted by DotNetWill

I've got one and it is, but the way that the gadget show go about it and the way they talk about Apple products is ridiculous. It's like it's written by Vallhund and Soundburst's love child.

Actually I have always found them to be anti-Apple (particularly Jon and Suzi).

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

Of course things can rival it seeing as its not the top dog now!

App store, well depends. Apple one was better but now Google's marketplace for android has caught up, devs now want to concentrate on it more as it pays better than apple, so i can see this slipping up from apple soon enough.

Not top dog in what sense? It's taking over half the revenue for SmartPhones and topping the reviews.

As for developers, due to the fragmentation on Android it's very hard for them to make money. One developer is making more on Android than Apple, 65,000 are not.

IslandNiles · 15-03-2011, 23:00

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Originally Posted by Red Arrow

I think maybe it's in reference to the amount of money Google take in the form of commission per sale compared to Apple.

I imagine that's a factor. But it seems - and this is only in the experience of me and my friends - that iPhone owners are, for some reason, more willing to pay for apps. I've got the WhatsApp messenger, for example, and so has one of my friends who has the HTC Desire. She got it free, I paid 59p for it. Great for her, bad for me, but the developer made money from the App Store rather than the Marketplace.

Red Arrow · 15-03-2011, 23:18

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Originally Posted by IslandNiles

I imagine that's a factor. But it seems - and this is only in the experience of me and my friends - that iPhone owners are, for some reason, more willing to pay for apps. I've got the WhatsApp messenger, for example, and so has one of my friends who has the HTC Desire. She got it free, I paid 59p for it. Great for her, bad for me, but the developer made money from the App Store rather than the Marketplace.

But does the free version come with ads? I'm sure I read the other day some figures the developers of Angry Birds released and they were making more money from the Android version which is free compared to the iPhone version due to the ads in the app.

IslandNiles · 15-03-2011, 23:29

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Originally Posted by Red Arrow

But does the free version come with ads? I'm sure I read the other day some figures the developers of Angry Birds released and they were making more money from the Android version which is free compared to the iPhone version due to the ads in the app.

That's an interesting point. Of course, with that there are issues of consumer satisfaction. There were a few people saying on another thread recently that they'd happily pay for Angry Birds on Android if it meant seeing it ad-free.

radiosgalore · 15-03-2011, 23:44

is there a phone that can handle flash based facebook apps? i heard the Samsung Galaxy S can but never actually saw it in action. my favourite games don't have apps and my poor old HTC desire falls on its face when i try running the likes of cafe world etc

linkinpark875 · 15-03-2011, 23:54

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Originally Posted by radiosgalore

is there a phone that can handle flash based facebook apps? i heard the Samsung Galaxy S can but never actually saw it in action. my favourite games don't have apps and my poor old HTC desire falls on its face when i try running the likes of cafe world etc

I'm sure I read Apple avoid flash due to it crashing and slowing a device down.

Stiggles · 16-03-2011, 02:22

The funny thing is, i just watched The Gadget Show there and by god that review was a load of utter shite.

First off the Nexus S won far more of the challenges than the iphone did. Next bit was the iphone user opted to use Navfree which is an offline navigation and took them down a one way street, so doesnt require 3G like Google Navigation does to download the maps so its little wonder the Nexus S battery croaked.

Im willing to bet if they used offline maps on both devices that wouldnt have happened, or if they both used online maps both the Nexus S and iphone 4 would have given up, so pretty unfair to be honest.

The camera part, well thats not down to the Nexus S which is fully capable of 720p video recording, they used Androids stock recorder which for some reason doesnt do 720p recording

The scores i saw at the end of it were:- Nexus S: 3 - iPhone: 1 so exactly how the iphone got crowned the king of smartphones is staggering.

kyussmondo · 16-03-2011, 06:58

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Originally Posted by Stuart P

yep sure they do...

Apple iPhone 4 clock bug strikes again - Telegraph

how many os updates since this was first reported last year and today it still ain't fixed

Yeah, give me a better battery thanks.

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Originally Posted by ACU

Thats like saying my ford Ka can get more mpg than a BMW M3. Therefore my ford Ka is better.

BTW, apple have incorporate multi-tasking into ios...just very badly.

The difference is the M3 is actually fun to use. Don't see how that compares with Android. I don't mind shortcomings if it provides something better.

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

Funny that as my desirehd battery lasts longer my old iphone 4 doing the same things. Oh and the best thing about it is if it does run out i can always slap another battery in if need be. Can i do this with the iphone? No.

Apple do things right indeed lmao

A typical response. Who carries extra batteries around with them all of the time? Same with memory cards. Just another thing to worry about or forget and leave at home.

Red Arrow · 16-03-2011, 07:04

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Originally Posted by IslandNiles

That's an interesting point. Of course, with that there are issues of consumer satisfaction. There were a few people saying on another thread recently that they'd happily pay for Angry Birds on Android if it meant seeing it ad-free.

Which is why there is a paid for version due out soon

Most Android apps are like that I've seen. A free version which is supported by ads and a paid for version which is ad free and maybe has one or two extras.

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Originally Posted by kyussmondo

A typical response. Who carries extra batteries around with them all of the time? Same with memory cards. Just another thing to worry about or forget and leave at home.

A lot of people like business people who travel around a lot and don't have time to leave their phones plugged in for a period of time.

Vallhund · 16-03-2011, 07:04

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Originally Posted by kyussmondo

A typical response. Who carries extra batteries around with them all of the time? Same with memory cards. Just another thing to worry about or forget and leave at home.

A total PITA IMHO.

Stiggles · 16-03-2011, 07:33

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Originally Posted by Vallhund

A total PITA IMHO.

Funny how its only apple users who think like this simply because its something they cant ever do with their purchase.

The other majority manage just fine without any complaints at all.

Aren't you the one who thinks its easier to, find a usb cable, unravel it, plug it into the camera then into the pc/mac easier than removing the memory card and putting it directly into a pc/mac or am i thinking of someone else?

Stiggles · 16-03-2011, 07:37

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Originally Posted by kyussmondo

A typical response. Who carries extra batteries around with them all of the time? Same with memory cards. Just another thing to worry about or forget and leave at home.

Not many people, but ill tell you something, the iphone 4's battery is not something to be shouting about. Its not brilliant at all. Its one of these things that is 'the option is always there if needed'.

My point here is, if i was to take my old iphone out, be without a socket for a few days, well im screwed aren't i? Whereas with my desirehd i can carry a tiny spare battery and not have the issues you will.

Now i know its not often you will be without a supply of some kind but its happened to me on numerous occasions and is 1 of a few reasons why i got rid of my iphone 4

DotNetWill · 16-03-2011, 07:44

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Originally Posted by kyussmondo

A typical response. Who carries extra batteries around with them all of the time? Same with memory cards. Just another thing to worry about or forget and leave at home.

It's not so much that more that you can replace the battery as it starts to wear down. Everyone knows OEM parts aren't very competatively priced and I know after two years I'd rather pay £20 - £30 for a new one rather than the £130ish Apple charge if you send it off.

Stuart P · 16-03-2011, 08:20

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Originally Posted by kyussmondo

Yeah, give me a better battery thanks.

go get a device other than an i'phone' then. i did. and i get much better battery life

neo_wales · 16-03-2011, 08:25

Another thread turned into an Apple rant, mods, please do us all a favour and lock it.

sotek · 16-03-2011, 08:33

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Originally Posted by grumpyoldbat

Oh for goodness sake, I wish I hadn't asked the flipping question now!

Can anyone, WHO ACTUALLY OWNS THE NEXUS S, give proper feedback about battery life? Can you reasonably get at least a day's use out of the phone without needing to tweak, underclock and generally faff about?

It EASILY lasts a day and with light use I can usual go 48 hours between charges. Having had prior experience of both the Desire and Desire HD I have to say they come a very poor second. How that compares to the iphone I don't know.

Btw that is with absolutely no tweaking, underclocking or anything ... other than not using 'live' wallpapers which can be a battery killer.

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Stuart P Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hitchin Posts: 922	Quote: Originally Posted by grumpyoldbat Oh for goodness sake, I wish I hadn't asked the flipping question now! Can anyone, WHO ACTUALLY OWNS THE NEXUS S, give proper feedback about battery life? Can you reasonably get at least a day's use out of the phone without needing to tweak, underclock and generally faff about? read my earlier post!

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15-03-2011, 21:33	#52
Vallhund Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 5,172	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles That is absolutely correct and a great post. I think it is silly to tie yourself to one platform as if it were your favourite football team. Just assess your needs and pick the best one. If another phone is the best for someone else, great for them. What I want are a: Good UI Good Display Good Apps Long Battery Life Hard QWERTY keyboard Any set that gives me that is in the running.

15-03-2011, 21:59	#53
linkinpark875 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 24,424	Quote: Originally Posted by DotNetWill They should just get it over and down with and rename "The Gadget Show" to "Apple Bum Loving". TBH the whole show is sickening from their reviews to the fun way it's filmed. Does us all a favour and die a quick! A small nuclear device on set might help. But come on the iPhone 4 is the best all round build, camera, app store you can buy. I really don't think anything can rival it. I had a C905 at the time of the 3GS now IPhone 4. If there was something better I'd look at it but theres no genuine alternative just a few phones that have a bonus of s memory card or flash support.

15-03-2011, 22:25	#54
DotNetWill Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cheshire Posts: 4,398	Quote: Originally Posted by linkinpark875 But come on the iPhone 4 is the best all round build, camera, app store you can buy. I really don't think anything can rival it. I had a C905 at the time of the 3GS now IPhone 4. If there was something better I'd look at it but theres no genuine alternative just a few phones that have a bonus of s memory card or flash support. I've got one and it is, but the way that the gadget show go about it and the way they talk about Apple products is ridiculous. It's like it's written by Vallhund and Soundburst's love child.

15-03-2011, 22:30	#55
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,292	Quote: Originally Posted by linkinpark875 But come on the iPhone 4 is the best all round build, camera, app store you can buy. I really don't think anything can rival it. I had a C905 at the time of the 3GS now IPhone 4. If there was something better I'd look at it but theres no genuine alternative just a few phones that have a bonus of s memory card or flash support. Of course things can rival it seeing as its not the top dog now! App store, well depends. Apple one was better but now Google's marketplace for android has caught up, devs now want to concentrate on it more as it pays better than apple, so i can see this slipping up from apple soon enough. Camera, well i can say the nokia N8 wallops the iphone as does my phone, Build wise i prefer my desire hd to my old iphone 4 feels more sturdier. The only thing i can see the iphone has better is its screen. Other than that it falls over now. Iphone 5 will take over as top dog when it comes out then will fall from it again. That cycle will continue over and over.

15-03-2011, 22:33	#56
linkinpark875 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 24,424	The Nokia N8 is a 12MP and way better than most phone cameras but it's probably not the best smart phone. I had the SE Satio and can honestly say you don't need 12MP in a phone. 5-8MP is good enough for anybody or any digital camera.

15-03-2011, 22:34	#57
IslandNiles Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,091	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles App store, well depends. Apple one was better but now Google's marketplace for android has caught up, devs now want to concentrate on it more as it pays better than apple, so i can see this slipping up from apple soon enough. The Google Marketplace isn't yet as big as the App Store and isn't as profitable for developers. When you say it pays better, be only evidence I've seen for that was from one developer, whose app made all its money from in-app purchases anyway.

15-03-2011, 22:38	#58
Red Arrow Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 10,688	Quote: Originally Posted by IslandNiles The Google Marketplace isn't yet as big as the App Store and isn't as profitable for developers. When you say it pays better, be only evidence I've seen for that was from one developer, whose app made all its money from in-app purchases anyway. I think maybe it's in reference to the amount of money Google take in the form of commission per sale compared to Apple.

15-03-2011, 22:38	#59
freeshat Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 443	Gadget show should be renamed Ripoff Show. I can never forget when they reviewed waterproof coats, and they rated a coat the best that cost about £600 better than one that cost about £50 just because the cheap jacket let in one microscopic drop of water.

15-03-2011, 22:59	#60
Vallhund Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 5,172	Quote: Originally Posted by DotNetWill I've got one and it is, but the way that the gadget show go about it and the way they talk about Apple products is ridiculous. It's like it's written by Vallhund and Soundburst's love child. Actually I have always found them to be anti-Apple (particularly Jon and Suzi). Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles Of course things can rival it seeing as its not the top dog now! App store, well depends. Apple one was better but now Google's marketplace for android has caught up, devs now want to concentrate on it more as it pays better than apple, so i can see this slipping up from apple soon enough. Not top dog in what sense? It's taking over half the revenue for SmartPhones and topping the reviews. As for developers, due to the fragmentation on Android it's very hard for them to make money. One developer is making more on Android than Apple, 65,000 are not.

15-03-2011, 23:00	#61
IslandNiles Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,091	Quote: Originally Posted by Red Arrow I think maybe it's in reference to the amount of money Google take in the form of commission per sale compared to Apple. I imagine that's a factor. But it seems - and this is only in the experience of me and my friends - that iPhone owners are, for some reason, more willing to pay for apps. I've got the WhatsApp messenger, for example, and so has one of my friends who has the HTC Desire. She got it free, I paid 59p for it. Great for her, bad for me, but the developer made money from the App Store rather than the Marketplace.

15-03-2011, 23:18	#62
Red Arrow Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 10,688	Quote: Originally Posted by IslandNiles I imagine that's a factor. But it seems - and this is only in the experience of me and my friends - that iPhone owners are, for some reason, more willing to pay for apps. I've got the WhatsApp messenger, for example, and so has one of my friends who has the HTC Desire. She got it free, I paid 59p for it. Great for her, bad for me, but the developer made money from the App Store rather than the Marketplace. But does the free version come with ads? I'm sure I read the other day some figures the developers of Angry Birds released and they were making more money from the Android version which is free compared to the iPhone version due to the ads in the app.

15-03-2011, 23:29	#63
IslandNiles Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,091	Quote: Originally Posted by Red Arrow But does the free version come with ads? I'm sure I read the other day some figures the developers of Angry Birds released and they were making more money from the Android version which is free compared to the iPhone version due to the ads in the app. That's an interesting point. Of course, with that there are issues of consumer satisfaction. There were a few people saying on another thread recently that they'd happily pay for Angry Birds on Android if it meant seeing it ad-free.

15-03-2011, 23:44	#64
radiosgalore Guest Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,116	is there a phone that can handle flash based facebook apps? i heard the Samsung Galaxy S can but never actually saw it in action. my favourite games don't have apps and my poor old HTC desire falls on its face when i try running the likes of cafe world etc

15-03-2011, 23:54	#65
linkinpark875 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 24,424	Quote: Originally Posted by radiosgalore is there a phone that can handle flash based facebook apps? i heard the Samsung Galaxy S can but never actually saw it in action. my favourite games don't have apps and my poor old HTC desire falls on its face when i try running the likes of cafe world etc I'm sure I read Apple avoid flash due to it crashing and slowing a device down.

16-03-2011, 02:22	#66
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,292	The funny thing is, i just watched The Gadget Show there and by god that review was a load of utter shite. First off the Nexus S won far more of the challenges than the iphone did. Next bit was the iphone user opted to use Navfree which is an offline navigation and took them down a one way street, so doesnt require 3G like Google Navigation does to download the maps so its little wonder the Nexus S battery croaked. Im willing to bet if they used offline maps on both devices that wouldnt have happened, or if they both used online maps both the Nexus S and iphone 4 would have given up, so pretty unfair to be honest. The camera part, well thats not down to the Nexus S which is fully capable of 720p video recording, they used Androids stock recorder which for some reason doesnt do 720p recording The scores i saw at the end of it were:- Nexus S: 3 - iPhone: 1 so exactly how the iphone got crowned the king of smartphones is staggering.

16-03-2011, 06:58	#67
kyussmondo Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 1,731	Quote: Originally Posted by Stuart P yep sure they do... Apple iPhone 4 clock bug strikes again - Telegraph how many os updates since this was first reported last year and today it still ain't fixed Yeah, give me a better battery thanks. Quote: Originally Posted by ACU Thats like saying my ford Ka can get more mpg than a BMW M3. Therefore my ford Ka is better. BTW, apple have incorporate multi-tasking into ios...just very badly. The difference is the M3 is actually fun to use. Don't see how that compares with Android. I don't mind shortcomings if it provides something better. Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles Funny that as my desirehd battery lasts longer my old iphone 4 doing the same things. Oh and the best thing about it is if it does run out i can always slap another battery in if need be. Can i do this with the iphone? No. Apple do things right indeed lmao A typical response. Who carries extra batteries around with them all of the time? Same with memory cards. Just another thing to worry about or forget and leave at home.

16-03-2011, 07:04	#68
Red Arrow Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 10,688	Quote: Originally Posted by IslandNiles That's an interesting point. Of course, with that there are issues of consumer satisfaction. There were a few people saying on another thread recently that they'd happily pay for Angry Birds on Android if it meant seeing it ad-free. Which is why there is a paid for version due out soon Most Android apps are like that I've seen. A free version which is supported by ads and a paid for version which is ad free and maybe has one or two extras. Quote: Originally Posted by kyussmondo A typical response. Who carries extra batteries around with them all of the time? Same with memory cards. Just another thing to worry about or forget and leave at home. A lot of people like business people who travel around a lot and don't have time to leave their phones plugged in for a period of time.

16-03-2011, 07:04	#69
Vallhund Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 5,172	Quote: Originally Posted by kyussmondo A typical response. Who carries extra batteries around with them all of the time? Same with memory cards. Just another thing to worry about or forget and leave at home. A total PITA IMHO.

16-03-2011, 07:33	#70
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,292	Quote: Originally Posted by Vallhund A total PITA IMHO. Funny how its only apple users who think like this simply because its something they cant ever do with their purchase. The other majority manage just fine without any complaints at all. Aren't you the one who thinks its easier to, find a usb cable, unravel it, plug it into the camera then into the pc/mac easier than removing the memory card and putting it directly into a pc/mac or am i thinking of someone else?

16-03-2011, 07:37	#71
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,292	Quote: Originally Posted by kyussmondo A typical response. Who carries extra batteries around with them all of the time? Same with memory cards. Just another thing to worry about or forget and leave at home. Not many people, but ill tell you something, the iphone 4's battery is not something to be shouting about. Its not brilliant at all. Its one of these things that is 'the option is always there if needed'. My point here is, if i was to take my old iphone out, be without a socket for a few days, well im screwed aren't i? Whereas with my desirehd i can carry a tiny spare battery and not have the issues you will. Now i know its not often you will be without a supply of some kind but its happened to me on numerous occasions and is 1 of a few reasons why i got rid of my iphone 4

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16-03-2011, 07:44	#72
DotNetWill Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cheshire Posts: 4,398	Quote: Originally Posted by kyussmondo A typical response. Who carries extra batteries around with them all of the time? Same with memory cards. Just another thing to worry about or forget and leave at home. It's not so much that more that you can replace the battery as it starts to wear down. Everyone knows OEM parts aren't very competatively priced and I know after two years I'd rather pay £20 - £30 for a new one rather than the £130ish Apple charge if you send it off.

16-03-2011, 08:20	#73
Stuart P Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hitchin Posts: 922	Quote: Originally Posted by kyussmondo Yeah, give me a better battery thanks. go get a device other than an i'phone' then. i did. and i get much better battery life

16-03-2011, 08:25	#74
neo_wales Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Wales/Gran Canaria Posts: 8,297	Another thread turned into an Apple rant, mods, please do us all a favour and lock it.

16-03-2011, 08:33	#75
sotek Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,200	Quote: Originally Posted by grumpyoldbat Oh for goodness sake, I wish I hadn't asked the flipping question now! Can anyone, WHO ACTUALLY OWNS THE NEXUS S, give proper feedback about battery life? Can you reasonably get at least a day's use out of the phone without needing to tweak, underclock and generally faff about? It EASILY lasts a day and with light use I can usual go 48 hours between charges. Having had prior experience of both the Desire and Desire HD I have to say they come a very poor second. How that compares to the iphone I don't know. Btw that is with absolutely no tweaking, underclocking or anything ... other than not using 'live' wallpapers which can be a battery killer.