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Question for BOB the HumaxGuy Foxsat
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mrmarky
16-03-2011
Bob

Has Humax gave any information regarding " Our Recent Upgrades " have they done or made any changes in the new firmware to block ftp etc.

Since the recent upgrades the box has become fantastic, would be sad to see it step backwards especially as there is no real improvements in this latest firmware.

The Upgrades basically saved me from scrapping the box and moving to another brand, I know at least 18 other people are buying the box just because of the improvements and are waiting on news of this firmware release.
CPN
16-03-2011
Originally Posted by mrmarky:
“Since the recent upgrades the box has become fantastic...”

What is it that makes you come to that conclusion about this latest (presumably the beta) upgrade? Just curious...
grahamlthompson
16-03-2011
Originally Posted by mrmarky:
“Bob

Has Humax gave any information regarding " Our Recent Upgrades " have they done or made any changes in the new firmware to block ftp etc.

Since the recent upgrades the box has become fantastic, would be sad to see it step backwards especially as there is no real improvements in this latest firmware.

The Upgrades basically saved me from scrapping the box and moving to another brand, I know at least 18 other people are buying the box just because of the improvements and are waiting on news of this firmware release.”

Judging by the date on it (Dec 2010) it would seem unlikely
grahamlthompson
16-03-2011
Bob has left (or is about to) Humax.

http://myhumax.org/forum/topic/movin...o-pastures-new
mrmarky
16-03-2011
oh bugger trust him to go when he's needed it

they've updated the kernel so my arse is flapping abit.
Bob_Cat
16-03-2011
Haven't left yet!

For various reasons Humax cannot support or acknowledge modifications to it's software on any level. Humax have also put no resources into disrupting the efforts. Any adjustments are at your own risk and we cannot support it, but we presently have no reason to disrupt the project if that is what people want to do.

Bob, still at Humax for a little while.
richard_g_uk
16-03-2011
All the best in your new job Bob_Cat - you'll be missed - hopefully your predecessor will also look over the forums as well and provide the same level of input as yourself.

Question about the Beta firmware uploaded today - it claims to fix the power cut bug however some members have tested this and claims it still doesn't work. Is this because they are using an old version of the bootloader? Can you upload the latest bootloader - v7.54 as this is what the readme file with the beta firmware claims the latest version is?
mrmarky
17-03-2011
cheers bob just the info we needed to hear
Nathan
17-03-2011
I too would like to thank Bob for all his contributions. please try and persuade your successor to join in a forum somewhere if you get to meet them before leaving.

Could you clarify what is going on with the new firmware beta please? everyone is saying that there does not seem to be any of the advertised fixes?
Andrue
17-03-2011
Originally Posted by richard_g_uk:
“hopefully your predecessor will also look over the forums as well and provide the same level of input as yourself.”

That statement would require time travel

The word you're looking for is successor
qslikely
17-03-2011
With all respect to Bob - his support has clearly been appreciated by those on this forum - I found reading his statement "Any adjustments are at your own risk and we cannot support it," quite amusing. There's some irony in the fact that Humax make the same statement, and a lot more specifically, about customer use of their own beta software.

Also amazed and appalled to read a representative (apparently) of Humax on My Humax Forum referring to his customers as numpties and generally raving and nit-picking about the stupidity of people who have bought his company's products! It might cross his mind, on a better day, that the people he's having a poke at are primarily interested in having what we all agree is fundamentally a great product brought up to a standard that many manufacturers would call 'fit for launch'. And that the enthusiasm these people show is responsible, directly and indirectly, for a fair number of sales.

Words fail him? Give me a (whatever rude word is acceptable here) break.

p.s. the bit about "were hints not dropped a month ago" was a cracker. What a way to do business!
grahamlthompson
17-03-2011
Originally Posted by qslikely:
“With all respect to Bob - his support has clearly been appreciated by those on this forum - I found reading his statement "Any adjustments are at your own risk and we cannot support it," quite amusing. There's some irony in the fact that Humax make the same statement, and a lot more specifically, about customer use of their own beta software.

Also amazed and appalled to read a representative (apparently) of Humax on My Humax Forum referring to his customers as numpties and generally raving and nit-picking about the stupidity of people who have bought his company's products! It might cross his mind, on a better day, that the people he's having a poke at are primarily interested in having what we all agree is fundamentally a great product brought up to a standard that many manufacturers would call 'fit for launch'. And that the enthusiasm these people show is responsible, directly and indirectly, for a fair number of sales.

Words fail him? Give me a (whatever rude word is acceptable here) break.

p.s. the bit about "were hints not dropped a month ago" was a cracker. What a way to do business!”

Barry is not employed by Humax although he does have very reliable information. So you can't say his statements are in any way official. If you want reliable information you should take his opinions seriously.
Malomaka
17-03-2011
Where was the hint to say that buffer recording was not going to be implemented?

I noticed that feature wasn't listed in the release note, something you would expect the product to have from initial release.
qslikely
17-03-2011
Sorry Graham, all this info via the back door of a bloke round the corner from the pub where a temp who once drove their bus drinks - it's all very confusing, to be polite.

If one point of a forum is to openly share information on a particular subject, it seems odd that there are things some of us know, things some of us think we know, things we all believe we know but don't openly mention, etc. When someone starts talking knowledgably about how many hours were spent on a particular task and saying something 'will be made available', I think it's reasonable to assume they are speaking from the inside, and I'd say they're doing nothing to stop readers from making that assumption. Unless they're using a forum purely to direct message a few people who know their background.

As for 'if you want reliable information you should take his opinions seriously' - I don't tend to take seriously the opinions of those who call others childish names because they're simply recording their frustrating experiences on a forum. I'd hope that the good knowledge you share on here is founded on something a bit more solid than hints being dropped by such people.

This is a good forum, I've learnt a lot from it, and it seems quite a few people enjoy getting and sharing their experiences and info. But the stuff that's generated by Humax's (or their second cousin's) misinformation, disinformation, non-information, rumour and at the heart of it all, incompetence - it's pretty sad, and just gets in the way. Everyone likes a good rumour, but how often does one hear that the update is coming, it might have such-and-such, over six months or a year, before you accept that if it looks like hot air, smells like hot air etc?
REPASSAC
17-03-2011
Originally Posted by qslikely:
“Sorry Graham, all this info via the back door of a bloke round the corner from the pub where a temp who once drove their bus drinks - it's all very confusing, to be polite.

If one point of a forum is to openly share information on a particular subject, it seems odd that there are things some of us know, things some of us think we know, things we all believe we know but don't openly mention, etc. When someone starts talking knowledgably about how many hours were spent on a particular task and saying something 'will be made available', I think it's reasonable to assume they are speaking from the inside, and I'd say they're doing nothing to stop readers from making that assumption. Unless they're using a forum purely to direct message a few people who know their background.

As for 'if you want reliable information you should take his opinions seriously' - I don't tend to take seriously the opinions of those who call others childish names because they're simply recording their frustrating experiences on a forum. I'd hope that the good knowledge you share on here is founded on something a bit more solid than hints being dropped by such people.

This is a good forum, I've learnt a lot from it, and it seems quite a few people enjoy getting and sharing their experiences and info. But the stuff that's generated by Humax's (or their second cousin's) misinformation, disinformation, non-information, rumour and at the heart of it all, incompetence - it's pretty sad, and just gets in the way. Everyone likes a good rumour, but how often does one hear that the update is coming, it might have such-and-such, over six months or a year, before you accept that if it looks like hot air, smells like hot air etc?”

He was complaining that the thread here was saying the power cut fix had been tested and did not work. They had put considerable testing into this and it does work.
I think Barry's comments are pretty fair in the cirumstances.
grahamlthompson
17-03-2011
Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“He was complaining that the thread here was saying the power cut fix had been tested and did not work. They had put considerable testing into this and it does work.
I think Barry's comments are pretty fair in the cirumstances.”


Seconded
Muzer
17-03-2011
Btw, has the "Also in HD" bug been fixed yet? Or is that still as irritating as ever?

(The fact that it displays "Also in HD" for all programmes on a channel that has an HD simulcast, rather than just for ones that are actually in HD on the simulcast channel. My Panasonic G20 series does the correct behaviour, so don't go giving me crap about it not being possible.)
qslikely
17-03-2011
Repassac, Graham - your view of what constitutes 'fair comment', when it emanates from this particular source, duly noted and taken on board.
hillel
17-03-2011
Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“He was complaining that the thread here was saying the power cut fix had been tested and did not work. They had put considerable testing into this and it does work.
I think Barry's comments are pretty fair in the cirumstances.”

It was a rant, pure and simple.

His comment on buffer recording - "were hints not dropped over a Month ago that this would not be included.", is a different matter. The unit should not have been shipped with the live pause bug. It is simply appaling if this is not going to be rectified.
richard_g_uk
17-03-2011
Originally Posted by Andrue:
“That statement would require time travel

The word you're looking for is successor ”

Doh
REPASSAC
17-03-2011
Originally Posted by hillel:
“It was a rant, pure and simple.

His comment on buffer recording - "were hints not dropped over a Month ago that this would not be included.", is a different matter. The unit should not have been shipped with the live pause bug. It is simply appaling if this is not going to be rectified.”

You are perfection God. I bow to you
hillel
18-03-2011
Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“You are perfection God. I bow to you ”

Remind me, just how long have we had this bug, now?

(Go on, just count the days since the PVR was released.)
grahamlthompson
18-03-2011
Originally Posted by hillel:
“Remind me, just how long have we had this bug, now?

(Go on, just count the days since the PVR was released.)”


Which ought to tell you it's not a bug rather a deliberate policy decision. The hdr allows archiving of HD transmissions but is forced by the Freesat spec to respect the archiving and copy restriction flagging used by the broadcaster so encrypts these as they are recorded.

The timeshift buffer is recorded in the clear for all transmissions as anyone with access to 0.ts file can attest.

It's not hard to arrange for the contents of 0.ts file to be copied as a normal recording, it's much harder to respect the broadcasters drm rights.
REPASSAC
18-03-2011
Originally Posted by hillel:
“Remind me, just how long have we had this bug, now?

(Go on, just count the days since the PVR was released.)”

The comment was related to "The unit should not have been shipped with the live pause bug" and cars should never need to be recalled, etc.
There is a huge pressure to get a new product to a new market when real profit can made before the price curve starts to fall - so I understand fully how things can be missed.
However I do agree that this (the returning to live TV) should have been fixed by now.
qslikely
18-03-2011
If this is an absolute, a Freesat contractual obligation, and firm policy, I guess some weird manufacturers might come up with a better way of telling their customers than whispering it to a bloke down the Dog & Duck who has hissyfits about dropping hints on his blog a couple of years after launch.
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