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Cheryl Cole's 3rd album due for release in August
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_Venger_
22-03-2011
Originally Posted by cm1992:
“They have a Guinness record to prove that they are the most successful UK girl group.”

Isn't that just for their 20 consecutive top 10 hits though? Im talking about worldwide record sales and Sugababes and Atomic Kitten both had success outwith the UK unlike GA so the sales are almost certainly gonna be bigger.

Also GA only really had massive UK hits with their greatest hits and Out of Control where as the Sugababes second line up released three triple platinum albums.
_Venger_
22-03-2011
As I thought

Quote:
“Guinness World Records lists them as "Most Successful Reality TV Group" in the 2007 edition. They also hold the record for "Most Consecutive Top Ten Entries in the UK by a Female Group" in the 2008 edition, and are credited again for "Most Successful Reality TV Group" in the 2011 edition.”

gav016
23-03-2011
I like Cheryl, so I'm slightly sad to see this. I would rather she had taken time to find her sound, so we had a more cohesive album like 3 Words. MLR just seemed a bit all over the place, and while there are a lot of individually good tracks, overall it just didn't mesh properly. It'd be nice to see her take a break, work on herself and getting her personal life in order before embarking on a new record.
KieranDS
23-03-2011
Originally Posted by gav016:
“I like Cheryl, so I'm slightly sad to see this. I would rather she had taken time to find her sound, so we had a more cohesive album like 3 Words. MLR just seemed a bit all over the place, and while there are a lot of individually good tracks, overall it just didn't mesh properly. It'd be nice to see her take a break, work on herself and getting her personal life in order before embarking on a new record.”

The story is rubbish imo.

Her record label aren't going to change a album/song releasing pattern that has worked well for Cheryl and Girls Aloud before her.
Buster65
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by Vanilla101:
“Popjustice.”

They didn't say it was being released in August, they said they were advertising for songwriters for the album and that it wouldn't be released BEFORE August. The source of that is a little suspect too from what I've been told by others who use Popjustice forums.
mary patricia
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by cm1992:
“Here's a good Cheryl performance. Her voice suits this style of music more. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEBaKE_nm7M”

Originally Posted by KieranDS:
“That video doesn't get accepted on DS ”

When Cheryl has to sing SOLO and LIVE she is weak, limp and lifeless. If either of you want to convince people that she is a good (or even decent) singer, you need to find numerous instances where she sings sole, live, in tune and on pitch. Good luck trying to find such performances

Most people accept that Cheryl is a celebrity who uses music to keep her profile up, not a performer who uses her profile to promote her music. If she was serious about a music career, she would've headlined her own tour. Plenty of artists have done it with far less sales than her. The most she's managed is as a support for the BEP's after her debut album.

Tours are a way of thanking your fans, promoting your album and also for those who are serious about music to enjoy performing. It's obvious that Cheryl isn't serious about performing and is happy to promote an album and then rake in the money at private gigs that only last an hour and pay huge money.
Zack06
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by mary patricia:
“When Cheryl has to sing SOLO and LIVE she is weak, limp and lifeless. If either of you want to convince people that she is a good (or even decent) singer, you need to find numerous instances where she sings solo, live, in tune and on pitch. Good luck trying to find such performances

Most people accept that Cheryl is a celebrity who uses music to keep her profile up, not a performer who uses her profile to promote her music. If she was serious about a music career, she would've headlined her own tour. Plenty of artists have done it with far less sales than her. The most she's managed is as a support for the BEP's after her debut album.

Tours are a way of thanking your fans, promoting your album and also for those who are serious about music to enjoy performing. It's obvious that Cheryl isn't serious about performing and is happy to promote an album and then rake in the money at private gigs that only last an hour and pay huge money.”

THANK YOU for this Mary. Those other posters have deluded themselves so much, despite the fact that there is ZERO evidence that she can sing SOLO and LIVE well, and bags of evidence to prove she can't.

Notice how the only 'good' Cheryl videos are duets or with Girls Aloud where the others drown out her voice, and she has time to catch her breath.

The truth of the matter is, she just CANNOT sing for shit. It is actually laughable to see people defending her singing ability when she has none. I'm all for liking her for whatever other reasons, but to say that she is a good singer is a straight up joke.

She is only in this for money and to keep herself in the news. Notice how she has NEVER done a solo tour, despite being massive enough, Alexandra and JLS managed it, and they have similar sales to Cheryl, yet she has not.

Why? Because put frankly she doesn't give a shit. And she is so weak a singer, she would sound diabolical, and you'd basically be paying to hear her CD played on big speakers...
cm1992
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“THANK YOU for this Mary. Those other posters have deluded themselves so much, despite the fact that there is ZERO evidence that she can sing SOLO and LIVE well, and bags of evidence to prove she can't.

Notice how the only 'good' Cheryl videos are duets or with Girls Aloud where the others drown out her voice, and she has time to catch her breath.

The truth of the matter is, she just CANNOT sing for shit. It is actually laughable to see people defending her singing ability when she has none. I'm all for liking her for whatever other reasons, but to say that she is a good singer is a straight up joke.

She is only in this for money and to keep herself in the news. Notice how she has NEVER done a solo tour, despite being massive enough, Alexandra and JLS managed it, and they have similar sales to Cheryl, yet she has not.

Why? Because put frankly she doesn't give a shit. And she is so weak a singer, she would sound diabolical, and you'd basically be paying to hear her CD played on big speakers...”

Firstly I never said she could "sing SOLO and LIVE well".
Was she not singing the whole way through her Snow Patrol duet?
She can sing, as I have said before. She just isn't the best at it.
She was touring with the B.E.P's last year and performing at music festivals. I doubt there would have been mush need for a headline tour with just 10 songs to her name and touring already.
KieranDS
24-03-2011
If she doesn't want to tour, she doesn't have too? A good popstar isn't measured by how much they tour
KieranDS
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“THANK YOU for this Mary. Those other posters have deluded themselves so much, despite the fact that there is ZERO evidence that she can sing SOLO and LIVE well, and bags of evidence to prove she can't.

Notice how the only 'good' Cheryl videos are duets or with Girls Aloud where the others drown out her voice, and she has time to catch her breath.

The truth of the matter is, she just CANNOT sing for shit. It is actually laughable to see people defending her singing ability when she has none. I'm all for liking her for whatever other reasons, but to say that she is a good singer is a straight up joke.

She is only in this for money and to keep herself in the news. Notice how she has NEVER done a solo tour, despite being massive enough, Alexandra and JLS managed it, and they have similar sales to Cheryl, yet she has not.

Why? Because put frankly she doesn't give a shit. And she is so weak a singer, she would sound diabolical, and you'd basically be paying to hear her CD played on big speakers...”

''She is only in this for money''
Well surely this can be said for every single mainstream artist.
Zack06
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by cm1992:
“Firstly I never said she could "sing SOLO and LIVE well".
Was she not singing the whole way through her Snow Patrol duet?
She can sing, as I have said before. She just isn't the best at it.
She was touring with the B.E.P's last year and performing at music festivals. I doubt there would have been mush need for a headline tour with just 10 songs to her name and touring already.”

She was drowned out by Gary. I bet if you took away his voice, she would still be nasal, pitchy and idiosyncratically disastrous.

I'm not talking about stuff that happened last year, I'm talking about now. If she is so 'committed' to singing, where is she? Why isn't she at least touring in between albums? Because she doesn't care...

She's probably planning yet another release in time for X Factor, the only way she can get a #1
Zack06
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by KieranDS:
“If she doesn't want to tour, she doesn't have too? A good popstar isn't measured by how much they tour ”

I never said that. But a good popstar is one that makes an effort to give back to their fans. And she does not. She runs around demanding high prices to mime her overproduced songs, with not one live set or solo live concert to thank her fans for buying her music...

She is in this for money alone no matter how you slice it, or try to convince yourself otherwise...
cm1992
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“She was drowned out by Gary. I bet if you took away his voice, she would still be nasal, pitchy and idiosyncratically disastrous.

I'm not talking about stuff that happened last year, I'm talking about now. If she is so 'committed' to singing, where is she? Why isn't she at least touring in between albums? Because she doesn't care...

She's probably planning yet another release in time for X Factor, the only way she can get a #1 ”

I quite like this solo performance -You're Still The One

But I know some people like to pick at imperfections.
Kylie Minogue is a nasal singer. Does that mean she can't sing?

She isn't touring because she is recording songs at the moment in LA, while waiting to find out if she will be relocating for 7 months to America. Obviously, her solo career hasn't gone to plan since last Summer. Cancelling Australian promo, V Festival etc; Then The XF USA...
CharlieKills
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“I never said that. But a good popstar is one that makes an effort to give back to their fans. And she does not. She runs around demanding high prices to mime her overproduced songs, with not one live set or solo live concert to thank her fans for buying her music...

She is in this for money alone no matter how you slice it, or try to convince yourself otherwise...”

Hasn't JLo never actually done a headlining tour? She seems to have done ok
crazybutterflyx
24-03-2011
Right, I've not read all the pages cause there are a few so I'm sorry if this is repeating something people have already said.

First of all, the live shows are end of september/october which wouldn't do anything for Cheryls album coming out in august. The auditions are shown in august.
Secondly There is no mention of an album on any shopping sites who are in the know months ahead, they've had Cher Lloyds able to preorder for nearly two months and it's august 23rd!
Thirdly, it won't be her third album in two years, it'll be her third album in three - 3 words 2009, messy little raindrops 2010, whatever this is 2011. Unless we're gonna be really picky then it's three years. After all, each would could as an album released in a seperate year, so three years!
Anika Hanson
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by CharlieKills:
“Hasn't JLo never actually done a headlining tour? She seems to have done ok ”

She's toured with her husband, a kind of joint tour.
mary patricia
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by crazybutterflyx:
“Right, I've not read all the pages cause there are a few so I'm sorry if this is repeating something people have already said.

First of all, the live shows are end of september/october which wouldn't do anything for Cheryls album coming out in august. The auditions are shown in august.
Secondly There is no mention of an album on any shopping sites who are in the know months ahead, they've had Cher Lloyds able to preorder for nearly two months and it's august 23rd!
Thirdly, it won't be her third album in two years, it'll be her third album in three - 3 words 2009, messy little raindrops 2010, whatever this is 2011. Unless we're gonna be really picky then it's three years. After all, each would could as an album released in a seperate year, so three years!”

If she releases an album in October 2011, then it'll be 2 years. 24 mths is two years exactly and there's nothing picky about it. If it doesn happen then it's over kill by Cheryl and her record company.
cm1992
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by mary patricia:
“If she releases an album in October 2011, then it'll be 2 years. 24 mths is two years exactly and there's nothing picky about it. If it doesn happen then it's over kill by Cheryl and her record company.”

Girls Aloud have done it. Every year. It wasn't overkill for them. Maybe because Cheryl is so famous.
mary patricia
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by cm1992:
“Girls Aloud have done it. Every year. It wasn't overkill for them. Maybe because Cheryl is so famous.”

That reasoning is too simplistic and doesn't focus on the bigger picture. Girls Aloud didn't appear on TV every week for three months and in the papers everyday the rest of the year. Cheryl is overexposed as it is and people are going off her. It wasn't over kill for them becauase they were up and coming. Cheryl is here and it's much harder to maintain a high profile career, than it is to achieve one. Plenty of people make the big time but most don't hold onto it.

Edit: I would also like to point out that Girls Aloud did not release an album in October every year they were together.
KieranDS
24-03-2011
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cm1992
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by mary patricia:
“That reasoning is too simplistic and doesn't focus on the bigger picture. Girls Aloud didn't appear on TV every week for three months and in the papers everyday the rest of the year. Cheryl is overexposed as it is and people are going off her. It wasn't over kill for them becauase they were up and coming. Cheryl is here and it's much harder to maintain a high profile career, than it is to achieve one. Plenty of people make the big time but most don't hold onto it.

Edit: I would also like to point out that Girls Aloud did not release an album in October every year they were together.”

I never said they were all released in October. Messy Little Raindrops was released in November. The month of the year it is released is irrelevant. But they were all released at the same time of year, bar the first album.

Anyway the August date is definitely wrong. Not many albums are released then.
KieranDS
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by mary patricia:
“That reasoning is too simplistic and doesn't focus on the bigger picture. Girls Aloud didn't appear on TV every week for three months and in the papers everyday the rest of the year. Cheryl is overexposed as it is and people are going off her. It wasn't over kill for them becauase they were up and coming. Cheryl is here and it's much harder to maintain a high profile career, than it is to achieve one. Plenty of people make the big time but most don't hold onto it.

Edit: I would also like to point out that Girls Aloud did not release an album in October every year they were together.”

Every album they released (apart from the first) was released in X Factor Live shows season. (October-December)
What Will The Neighbours Say - November 2004
Chemistry - December 2005
Greatest Hits - October 2006
Tangled Up - November 2007
Out Of Control - November 2008

3 Words - October 2009
MLR - November 2010

Girls Aloud like Cheryl have always released 3 singles, like Cheryl from the album (bar Chemistry which had 4 singles)

Girls Aloud release a single with the album, a single around January time and then a third single around March/April time.

Cheryl follows this release schedule and doesn't release 'because The X Factor is on' yeah sure it does help in her campaign but so what? Any artist who is fortunate enough to judge on the show would do the same.


Girls Aloud appeared on TV/Radio way more hours a week than Cheryl does with The X Factor. Cheryl rarley does TV interviews such as GMTV (now Daybreak), Paul O Grady, Top Of The Pops, CD UK, This Morning etc whereas Girls Aloud had many hours a week on TV and Radio promoting their music.

Cheryl does three or four performances and thats it.

Sitting on a judges table each week isn't going to make a person buy your album.
mary patricia
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by KieranDS:
“Girls Aloud released an album every year since they began and Cheryl is just following that releasing pattern.

If you're not a fan then fine, but if she wants to release an album every year for her fans, than thats up to her.”

If she releases an album every year she's going to kill her career. If as a fan you would want to bury your head in the sand and come up with arguments that have no foresight, then that's up to you.
KieranDS
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by mary patricia:
“If she releases an album every year she's going to kill her career. If as a fan you would want to bury your head in the sand and come up with arguments that have no foresight, then that's up to you.”

Britney didn't do too badly releasing her first 3 albums one a year from 1999-2001.

Nor did it Kylies releasing her first 4 albums one a year between 1988-1991.

'' If as a fan you would want to bury your head in the sand and come up with arguments that have no foresight, then that's up to you.''

Oh of course
gav016
25-03-2011
Originally Posted by mary patricia:
“If she releases an album every year she's going to kill her career. If as a fan you would want to bury your head in the sand and come up with arguments that have no foresight, then that's up to you.”

I'm a big Cheryl fan but I do kinda have to agree with you on that. It feels kinda like she's rushing things, even though she's doing exactly the same as GA did, and it'd be nice to see her take some time to find her sound, but I guess as long as she keeps putting stuff out there, I'm going to be buying it.
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