I may have got my wires crossed (I blame popjustice)- even if it isn't a BRAND NEW album she is definitley doing some sort of re-release this year. I've read in the paper's here and there that she is re-releasing one her first two albums in America which will include new songs.
Cheryl Cole's 3rd album due for release in August
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there is absolutely no way she will release a new album without the x factor live shows to flog it on
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“I never said that. But a good popstar is one that makes an effort to give back to their fans. And she does not. She runs around demanding high prices to mime her overproduced songs, with not one live set or solo live concert to thank her fans for buying her music...
She is in this for money alone no matter how you slice it, or try to convince yourself otherwise...
”
“I never said that. But a good popstar is one that makes an effort to give back to their fans. And she does not. She runs around demanding high prices to mime her overproduced songs, with not one live set or solo live concert to thank her fans for buying her music...
She is in this for money alone no matter how you slice it, or try to convince yourself otherwise...
”
Cheryl singing live in arena.
She will be doing a solo tour next year I'm guessing. They are where the money is at. She seemed pretty comfortable on the BEP tour. What's wrong with being in it for the money? What is anyone in the music business for? Money and fame.
Originally Posted by mary patricia:
“That's not live.”
“That's not live.”
Oh of course its not
When she holds the mic close to her mouth everybody screams mime.
When its clearly away away from her mouth she's miming too?
Im telling you its live. When I saw her at the O2 and she performed this song she would stop and do the whole 'I wanna hear you' and the instrumental would just continue.
[Thanks for the link by the way, brings back some memories!]
Originally Posted by cm1992:
“How do you know?”
“How do you know?”
It's fairly obvious - she's out of sync on a couple of occassion, the mike moves all over the place, yet her vocals remain at exactly the same level throughout, she performs some very jerky movements, whilst her vocals stay at exactly the same level throughout,
Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“It's fairly obvious - she's out of sync on a couple of occassion, the mike moves all over the place, yet her vocals remain at exactly the same level throughout, she performs some very jerky movements, whilst her vocals stay at exactly the same level throughout,”
“It's fairly obvious - she's out of sync on a couple of occassion, the mike moves all over the place, yet her vocals remain at exactly the same level throughout, she performs some very jerky movements, whilst her vocals stay at exactly the same level throughout,”
Lets just put it out there that video was a amateur video probably recorded on a mobile phone. Hardly going to be HDTV quality. So of course it's going to be out of sync at places/
Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“It's fairly obvious - she's out of sync on a couple of occassion, the mike moves all over the place, yet her vocals remain at exactly the same level throughout, she performs some very jerky movements, whilst her vocals stay at exactly the same level throughout,”
“It's fairly obvious - she's out of sync on a couple of occassion, the mike moves all over the place, yet her vocals remain at exactly the same level throughout, she performs some very jerky movements, whilst her vocals stay at exactly the same level throughout,”
No they don't. And her breathing on the 'T's in 'tryna' are heard on the mike.
Originally Posted by KieranDS:
“Lets just put it out there that video was a amateur video probably recorded on a mobile phone. Hardly going to be HDTV quality.”
“Lets just put it out there that video was a amateur video probably recorded on a mobile phone. Hardly going to be HDTV quality.”
Indeed, so that could account for the sync issues, still doesn't quite account for the vocals remaining at exactly the same level no matter where the mike is, and what she's doing.
Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“Indeed, so that could account for the sync issues, still doesn't quite account for the vocals remaining at exactly the same level no matter where the mike is, and what she's doing.”
“Indeed, so that could account for the sync issues, still doesn't quite account for the vocals remaining at exactly the same level no matter where the mike is, and what she's doing.”
If you listen again, they aren't at the same level.
Originally Posted by cm1992:
“How do you know?”
“How do you know?”
Parachute Live Lounge
Fireflies Live Lounge
Standing still, in her bare feet, with no backing track or singers to hide behind, Cheryl is a weak, not even average singer. She cannot hold a tune standing still and if she can't do that, there is no way she magically manages to sing and dance at the same time.
Instead of miming to the CD, she mimes to pre-recorded vocals which will have been tweaked a little bit but not to perfection so that there is still the illusion of singing live. She's not the first and won't be the last to do it but there is no denying that she does it.
Originally Posted by mary patricia:
“Parachute Live Lounge
Fireflies Live Lounge
Standing still, in her bare feet, with no backing track or singers to hide behind, Cheryl is a weak, not even average singer. She cannot hold a tune standing still and if she can't do that, there is no way she magically manages to sing and dance at the same time.
Instead of miming to the CD, she mimes to pre-recorded vocals which will have been tweaked a little bit but not to perfection so that there is still the illusion of singing live. She's not the first and won't be the last to do it but there is no denying that she does it.”
“Parachute Live Lounge
Fireflies Live Lounge
Standing still, in her bare feet, with no backing track or singers to hide behind, Cheryl is a weak, not even average singer. She cannot hold a tune standing still and if she can't do that, there is no way she magically manages to sing and dance at the same time.
Instead of miming to the CD, she mimes to pre-recorded vocals which will have been tweaked a little bit but not to perfection so that there is still the illusion of singing live. She's not the first and won't be the last to do it but there is no denying that she does it.”
Quote:
“Cheryl Cole has come down with a bout of bronchitis, forcing her to cancel her hotly-anticipated appearance on Jonathan Ross's chat show.
The 26-year-old singer has also pulled out of a Live Lounge session on Fearne Cotton's mid morning Radio 1 show, which was scheduled for tomorrow.
The X Factor judge was set to sing her new single Parachute on Ross's Friday night show, which is filmed today.”
“Cheryl Cole has come down with a bout of bronchitis, forcing her to cancel her hotly-anticipated appearance on Jonathan Ross's chat show.
The 26-year-old singer has also pulled out of a Live Lounge session on Fearne Cotton's mid morning Radio 1 show, which was scheduled for tomorrow.
The X Factor judge was set to sing her new single Parachute on Ross's Friday night show, which is filmed today.”
She was scheduled to appear the week before but couldn't because she had bronchitis.
She also [if you watch the interview] states she went on a night out with Nicola the night before and had not had much sleep.
Originally Posted by KieranDS:
“She was scheduled to appear the week before but couldn't because she had bronchitis.
She also [if you watch the interview] states she went on a night out with Nicola the night before and had not had much sleep.”
“She was scheduled to appear the week before but couldn't because she had bronchitis.
She also [if you watch the interview] states she went on a night out with Nicola the night before and had not had much sleep.”
That's a lame justification. Bronchitis is a serious illness and if recovering from it, why go out drinking (no special occasion, just went out with the girls), stay out too late and arrive tired and hungover to sing live on radio? Either she's lazy and unprofessional or she knew she was going to sound awful and tried to come up with as many excuses beforehand so that people would make allowances for her.
If she was well enough to go out drinking, then bronchitis is no excuse.
If she was tired and hungover, then she is pathetically unprofessional. It's not like she wasn't aware that she was going on the show. In any normal job if you arrived tired and hungover to the point where you make a complete balls of it, saying "oh I fancied a night out with my friends, drank too much and didn't get enough sleep" wouldn't garner much sympathy.
Excuses, excuses waa waaa poor ickle Cheryl. Won't someone call the waaaaabulance. She's a shite singer and she simply cannot sing and dance at the same time.
Its odd because when she was in GA she was actually capable of giving a live decent perormance (occasionally). But ever since she went solo her vocals have completley gone down hill. I don't know if its because she gets nervous or what but her vocals are really bad now. She just has zero control or emotion when singing. And of course, the rest of the time she just mimes thereby putting in no effort AT ALL.
Originally Posted by mary patricia:
“That's a lame justification.
If she was well enough to go out drinking, then bronchitis is no excuse.
If she was tired and hungover, then she is pathetically unprofessional. It's not like she wasn't aware that she was going on the show. In any normal job if you arrived tired and hungover to the point where you make a complete balls of it, saying "oh I fancied a night out with my friends, drank too much and didn't get enough sleep" wouldn't garner much sympathy.
Excuses, excuses waa waaa poor ickle Cheryl. Won't someone call the waaaaabulance. She's a shite singer and she simply cannot sing and dance at the same time.”
“That's a lame justification.
If she was well enough to go out drinking, then bronchitis is no excuse.
If she was tired and hungover, then she is pathetically unprofessional. It's not like she wasn't aware that she was going on the show. In any normal job if you arrived tired and hungover to the point where you make a complete balls of it, saying "oh I fancied a night out with my friends, drank too much and didn't get enough sleep" wouldn't garner much sympathy.
Excuses, excuses waa waaa poor ickle Cheryl. Won't someone call the waaaaabulance. She's a shite singer and she simply cannot sing and dance at the same time.”
Totally agreed on all points. Some of the excuses her fans come out with are frankly laughable - just like Cheryls performance skills.
Originally Posted by Unigal07:
“Totally agreed on all points. Some of the excuses her fans come out with are frankly laughable - just like Cheryls performance skills.”
“Totally agreed on all points. Some of the excuses her fans come out with are frankly laughable - just like Cheryls performance skills.”
Hear hear!
Originally Posted by Unigal07:
“Totally agreed on all points. Some of the excuses her fans come out with are frankly laughable - just like Cheryls performance skills.”
“Totally agreed on all points. Some of the excuses her fans come out with are frankly laughable - just like Cheryls performance skills.”
I couldn't help but notice that you got pulled over for your spelling and grammar while discussing Cheryl Cole. I also think there was meant to be an apostrophe between the l and s in 'Cheryls' above.
It's quite clear we all have made our minds up on Cheryl anyway. So no point trying to discuss it. I provided a video of her singing live in The O2 but it was dismissed due to a performance of a different song.
Originally Posted by Vanilla101:
“I may have got my wires crossed (I blame popjustice)- even if it isn't a BRAND NEW album she is definitley doing some sort of re-release this year. I've read in the paper's here and there that she is re-releasing one her first two albums in America which will include new songs.”
“I may have got my wires crossed (I blame popjustice)- even if it isn't a BRAND NEW album she is definitley doing some sort of re-release this year. I've read in the paper's here and there that she is re-releasing one her first two albums in America which will include new songs.”
Yes apparently her american label want some of the old material re-worked to fit in better to the american market.
I would imagine it'll be the best tracks from the first two albums with one or 2 new songs. However, I've not seen or heard anything about her releasing it here. It's quite common for acts to re-work albums for a territory and the re-worked stuff not being released in their home territory.
Originally Posted by mary patricia:
“When Cheryl has to sing SOLO and LIVE she is weak, limp and lifeless. If either of you want to convince people that she is a good (or even decent) singer, you need to find numerous instances where she sings sole, live, in tune and on pitch. Good luck trying to find such performances
Most people accept that Cheryl is a celebrity who uses music to keep her profile up, not a performer who uses her profile to promote her music. If she was serious about a music career, she would've headlined her own tour. Plenty of artists have done it with far less sales than her. The most she's managed is as a support for the BEP's after her debut album.
Tours are a way of thanking your fans, promoting your album and also for those who are serious about music to enjoy performing. It's obvious that Cheryl isn't serious about performing and is happy to promote an album and then rake in the money at private gigs that only last an hour and pay huge money.”
“When Cheryl has to sing SOLO and LIVE she is weak, limp and lifeless. If either of you want to convince people that she is a good (or even decent) singer, you need to find numerous instances where she sings sole, live, in tune and on pitch. Good luck trying to find such performances
Most people accept that Cheryl is a celebrity who uses music to keep her profile up, not a performer who uses her profile to promote her music. If she was serious about a music career, she would've headlined her own tour. Plenty of artists have done it with far less sales than her. The most she's managed is as a support for the BEP's after her debut album.
Tours are a way of thanking your fans, promoting your album and also for those who are serious about music to enjoy performing. It's obvious that Cheryl isn't serious about performing and is happy to promote an album and then rake in the money at private gigs that only last an hour and pay huge money.”
I am sorry but that is completely ridiculous. She toured with Black Eyed Peas throughout Europe where she doesn't have quite as high a profile.
At that point she had one album of 10 songs, some of which with Will.I.am, so it made perfect sense for her to tour with Black Eyed Peas, who are one of the biggest bands in the world right now.
She also appeared on TV & at award shows in various European countries, again where her profile is not as high doing performances etc.
It seems to me like she is serious about a global music career and is doing the groundwork.
Originally Posted by TheElf:
“I am sorry but that is completely ridiculous.”
“I am sorry but that is completely ridiculous.”
No it isn't. At this moment in time, Cheryl has released two albums, has had massive sales and a huge profile, yet all she has done touring wise is support the BEP's. The only gigs she has done are short, private gigs. Cheryl is not interested in a music career and her behaviour screams this. She makes a very good celebrity (self promotion is what she excels at) but that's it.
It wouldn't have killed her to tour the UK and Ireland to thank her fans. I'm not talking arena tour here. Alexander Burke has managed to tour (and she's only on album one). Trying to defend Cheryl's complete and utter lack of commitment to music beyond instant self promotion is what's ridiculous.
Originally Posted by mary patricia:
“No it isn't. At this moment in time, Cheryl has released two albums, has had massive sales and a huge profile, yet all she has done touring wise is support the BEP's. The only gigs she has done are short, private gigs. Cheryl is not interested in a music career and her behaviour screams this. She makes a very good celebrity (self promotion is what she excels at) but that's it.
It wouldn't have killed her to tour the UK and Ireland to thank her fans. I'm not talking arena tour here. Alexander Burke has managed to tour (and she's only on album one). Trying to defend Cheryl's complete and utter lack of commitment to music beyond instant self promotion is what's ridiculous.”
“No it isn't. At this moment in time, Cheryl has released two albums, has had massive sales and a huge profile, yet all she has done touring wise is support the BEP's. The only gigs she has done are short, private gigs. Cheryl is not interested in a music career and her behaviour screams this. She makes a very good celebrity (self promotion is what she excels at) but that's it.
It wouldn't have killed her to tour the UK and Ireland to thank her fans. I'm not talking arena tour here. Alexander Burke has managed to tour (and she's only on album one). Trying to defend Cheryl's complete and utter lack of commitment to music beyond instant self promotion is what's ridiculous.”
You say "all she has done" as if she wobbled on drunk at a karaoke in Butlins.
As my post pointed out, she toured EURPOE with one of the biggest bands in the world.
I believe some of these "private short gigs" were at student unions and clubs, so 25 minutes to an hour is about normal for that sort of event.
Of course what gigs/tours she does & how long the sets are probably isn't even down to Cheryl herself.
I still think it's ridiculous to say if she's serious about music she "should've headlined her own tour". Not every act can headline a tour, Rihanna has been struggling to shift tickets in the states for example. It's not always a viable option and many well known acts do joint tours & support other well known acts these days.
Originally Posted by TheElf:
“You say "all she has done" as if she wobbled on drunk at a karaoke in Butlins.
As my post pointed out, she toured EURPOE with one of the biggest bands in the world.
I believe some of these "private short gigs" were at student unions and clubs, so 25 minutes to an hour is about normal for that sort of event.
Of course what gigs/tours she does & how long the sets are probably isn't even down to Cheryl herself.
I still think it's ridiculous to say if she's serious about music she "should've headlined her own tour". Not every act can headline a tour, Rihanna has been struggling to shift tickets in the states for example. It's not always a viable option and many well known acts do joint tours & support other well known acts these days.”
“You say "all she has done" as if she wobbled on drunk at a karaoke in Butlins.
As my post pointed out, she toured EURPOE with one of the biggest bands in the world.
I believe some of these "private short gigs" were at student unions and clubs, so 25 minutes to an hour is about normal for that sort of event.
Of course what gigs/tours she does & how long the sets are probably isn't even down to Cheryl herself.
I still think it's ridiculous to say if she's serious about music she "should've headlined her own tour". Not every act can headline a tour, Rihanna has been struggling to shift tickets in the states for example. It's not always a viable option and many well known acts do joint tours & support other well known acts these days.”
Do you really think Cheryl would have problems selling tour tickets?
Originally Posted by mary patricia:
“Do you really think Cheryl would have problems selling tour tickets?”
“Do you really think Cheryl would have problems selling tour tickets?”
At this point, in all honesty, yes I do.
If her management allowed her to do a string of regular night club dates, then I think the clubs would be packed, but not an actual tour that you need tickets for.
Originally Posted by TheElf:
“At this point, in all honesty, yes I do.
If her management allowed her to do a string of regular night club dates, then I think the clubs would be packed, but not an actual tour that you need tickets for.”
“At this point, in all honesty, yes I do.
If her management allowed her to do a string of regular night club dates, then I think the clubs would be packed, but not an actual tour that you need tickets for.”
I can't take anything else you say seriously. Sorry
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