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Old 10-01-2013, 19:49
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We're can I find a cast list for last nights episode please?
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Old 10-01-2013, 19:53
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We're can I find a cast list for last nights episode please?
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Old 10-01-2013, 20:07
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I enjoyed it and I'm glad they're showing what, 3 episodes in a row. Usually the show is given to us in dribs and drabs over the course of the year.
I thought this was a repeat so missed it My sister gave away the ending aswell
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Old 10-01-2013, 20:41
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Good to see old "Rent-a-Northerner" getting an outing on MM last night
There is that every week it's called Neil Dudgeon i was shocked to find he used to live just over the road from where I do now.
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Old 10-01-2013, 20:42
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I just watched it and think it's one of the best MM I've ever seen.

Do agree about the lad being chained up. I know some people who look worse if they don't shower and shave for 24 hours!
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Old 10-01-2013, 21:50
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I just watched it and think it's one of the best MM I've ever seen.

Do agree about the lad being chained up. I know some people who look worse if they don't shower and shave for 24 hours!

Given the place was a hospital and there'd be regular checks on all floors and rooms, "'elf 'n' safety"and hygiene and that. No way could he have been undetected for that length of time. That bit was really silly.
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Old 10-01-2013, 22:16
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Given the place was a hospital and there'd be regular checks on all floors and rooms, "'elf 'n' safety"and hygiene and that. No way could he have been undetected for that length of time. That bit was really silly.
Jesus it's a tv show it's not real like all those people would actually get murdered in one county some programmes use artistic licence stop taking it so seriously and enjoy it.
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Old 10-01-2013, 22:16
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I was sure that Harriet had a tracheostomy tube attached when she was in a coma at the beginning of the episode. That was one hell of a recovery, speaking within hours and running within days!

This aside this is the first MM with ND I have seen and I rather enjoyed it.
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Old 10-01-2013, 23:37
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Jesus it's a tv show it's not real like all those people would actually get murdered in one county some programmes use artistic licence stop taking it so seriously and enjoy it.

Yes it's a TV show, yes there's more murders than seems logical, we expect that it's Midsommer for chrissakes, but no you could not keep a person fed and watered undetected in the basement of a naffin' hospital for a year.

It isn't "Once Upon a Time."


Get it?
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Old 11-01-2013, 00:01
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As a huge fan of John Nettles, I was disappointed when he retired. But I have to admit I prefer Neil Dudgeon. I also think he and Jones work better together. Last night's episode was excellent, although the headmistress wife is not really needed! And the dog being portrayed like their baby is sad!
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Old 11-01-2013, 01:04
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As a huge fan of John Nettles, I was disappointed when he retired. But I have to admit I prefer Neil Dudgeon. I also think he and Jones work better together. Last night's episode was excellent, although the headmistress wife is not really needed! And the dog being portrayed like their baby is sad!
Dudgeon's wife and dog, as was Joyce and Cully with the original Barney Bee, are there to make the characters seem less one dimensional, i.e, "all work and no play."

I don't see why Jones is sometimes made to look a bit thick.
How often has he said something without thinking, that leads his boss in the direction of the murderer?
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:07
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I was sure that Harriet had a tracheostomy tube attached when she was in a coma at the beginning of the episode. That was one hell of a recovery, speaking within hours and running within days!
Thank goodness I am not the only one to notice the complete lack of a scar, and her ability to speak clearly straight away. Did you also spot the amazing head scar that disapeared and reapeared during the ep?.

The ending was hilarious, with the star crossed lovers reunited. ND has grown on me, not for anything he brings to the drama of the show, but because his gurning when delivering the lines has me giggling out loud, I thought once JN left the humour would lessen, but its got even funnier.

Sterling performance from Sykes, this dog should get its own show.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:05
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The scar on Harriet's forehead disappeared and re-appeared with the change of camera angle! Bad continuity methinks.
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Old 11-01-2013, 11:50
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Sterling performance from Sykes, this dog should get its own show.

What an earth has a dog have to do with programme like this.

Concentrate on the story and the characters and get rid of the irritating pest.
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Old 11-01-2013, 13:54
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Thank goodness I am not the only one to notice the complete lack of a scar, and her ability to speak clearly straight away. Did you also spot the amazing head scar that disapeared and reapeared during the ep?.

The ending was hilarious, with the star crossed lovers reunited. ND has grown on me, not for anything he brings to the drama of the show, but because his gurning when delivering the lines has me giggling out loud, I thought once JN left the humour would lessen, but its got even funnier.

Sterling performance from Sykes, this dog should get its own show.
Well, as I mentioned before, he did star in an advert shown during the breaks.
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Old 11-01-2013, 22:18
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I was a bit disappointed with this week's offering, after enjoying last week's.

It just stretched credulity too far. And Jones became dim again (even I thought of the fire alarm!).

I think if Sykes wasn't in it, the ratings would go down.
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:02
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I think if Sykes wasn't in it, the ratings would go down.

The only TV show where anyone thinks performing dogs are of any interest is probably BGT, because Simon Cowell has some odd fixation; even so his 'performing animals special' bombed in the ratings.


For adult shows what on earth is the point of dogs, or cats too if to comes to that.
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:09
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For adult shows what on earth is the point of dogs, or cats too if to comes to that.
Have to laugh at your "adult show" quip.

Next you will say that MM is a serious drama, rather than the entertaining fluff it always has been.
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:12
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Have to laugh at your "adult show" quip.

Next you will say that MM is a serious drama, rather than the entertaining fluff it always has been.

Apologies for the lack of clarity. I should have explained that MM is aimed at adults rather than children, an important distinction of course.


Entertaining fluff! Yes, I agree, but like very many people I find dogs to be anything but entertaining.
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:14
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What an earth has a dog have to do with programme like this.

Concentrate on the story and the characters and get rid of the irritating pest.
The dog has a lot to do with the story shown on screen, because he provides a bit of comic relief, and covers up the plot holes in the show.

Sykes was put in simply for the laughs, and the producers got it right. Sykes is the four legged equivalent of Cully, who was always good for a laugh.
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:21
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The dog ... provides a bit of comic relief, and covers up the plot holes in the show.

Sykes was put in simply for the laughs, ...
A dog - funny??

You must be joking!

Cully may have covered up gaps in the plot but at least she did a highly professional and competent job - something no animal 'actor' can ever do.
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:45
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A dog - funny??

You must be joking!

Cully may have covered up gaps in the plot but at least she did a highly professional and competent job - something no animal 'actor' can ever do.
You've made me smile with that remark.

Over the entire length, of her TV career, (anyone seen Laura Howard in anything else on TV?) the poor woman had so many contrived jobs and unsuitable relationships simply to suit the various plots, it became laughable. But it was amusing to guess what job she'd have next.

Near the end, I guess economies meant that her contributions were reduced to things like Joyce saying; "We've had a postcard from Cully." Her many absences were explained that as an actress, or whatever, she was on tour somewhere.

I guess the dog is cheaper and what you see is what you get.
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Old 12-01-2013, 11:55
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You've made me smile with that remark.

Over the entire length, of her TV career, (anyone seen Laura Howard in anything else on TV?) the poor woman had so many contrived jobs and unsuitable relationships simply to suit the various plots, it became laughable. But it was amusing to guess what job she'd have next.

Near the end, I guess economies meant that her contributions were reduced to things like Joyce saying; "We've had a postcard from Cully." Her many absences were explained that as an actress, or whatever, she was on tour somewhere.

I guess the dog is cheaper and what you see is what you get.
I would much prefer Cully than the dog, and I can't see how that dog adds to the programme. I don't know why they went down the route of having a pet rather than a son or daughter. A stroppy teenager would have added much more .

Far fetched I know , but I enjoyed the latest . I had fears from the early scenes that we were going to get yet another episode of people , ( or nutters) dressed up in stupid head gear. Apart from the very end , with that guy somehow instantly recovering from being chained to a wall for a year, very much an improvement on the recent stuff.
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:17
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Given that DCI John Barnaby is Cully's uncle maybe Cully could return to live with him and his wife - most actors don't earn squat so Cully would never be able to afford her own place. She and Sykes could then have adventures to provide the series with the kind of twists and turns that only they could deliver lol: endless rehearsals, recitals, fetes, doing part time work for a murder suspect or twelve: the possibilities are endless! All part of midsomer madness - she could even have a relationship with one of the non-white characters who now grace Midsomer! It's not as though the series is based in anything resembling reality so it could easily Cully-up
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:26
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I would much prefer Cully than the dog, and I can't see how that dog adds to the programme. I don't know why they went down the route of having a pet rather than a son or daughter. A stroppy teenager would have added much more .

Far fetched I know , but I enjoyed the latest . I had fears from the early scenes that we were going to get yet another episode of people, ( or nutters) dressed up in stupid head gear. Apart from the very end , with that guy somehow instantly recovering from being chained to a wall for a year, very much an improvement on the recent stuff.
The problem with Cully was that her participation went from things like; "Teenage daughter of detective in danger!" (she was twenty when she first appeared), to "Thirty-something woman and her mother sells Midsommer Marmalade at village fair!"
In the last few series her only function was an attempt to make Barney Bee seem less wooden.

I like the dog, he adds a bit of comic distraction, I won't say relief, to a pretty ordinary but not unenjoyable drama series.
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