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Old 09-01-2014, 10:41
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So she can't take any more acting jobs while she's still playing Lewis' boss??
Err..

She isn't, except in repeats at the moment.

She can do what she likes, she doesn't need my permission. How she's perceived, is down to the individual viewer.

You're welcome to your own opinions.
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:43
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Is this the second time there has been a murderous vicar in Midsommer Murders??

Richard Briers played one way back in '99
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:55
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Is this the second time there has been a murderous vicar in Midsommer Murders??

Richard Briers played one way back in '99
Classic episode "death's shadow"
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:58
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Is this the second time there has been a murderous vicar in Midsommer Murders??

Richard Briers played one way back in '99
I thought it was always the vicar?

(Lewis is finished for ever, btw. **sobs**)
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:19
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Is this the second time there has been a murderous vicar in Midsommer Murders??

Richard Briers played one way back in '99
3rd I think there was another one where a mad vicar wanted to baptise a child to end some kind of historical curse.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:30
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3rd I think there was another one where a mad vicar wanted to baptise a child to end some kind of historical curse.
"Second sight"
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Old 09-01-2014, 13:16
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Yes, I knew straight away it would be one of the vicars. It seems common now in these detective series for the vicar to be the villain. Is it part of an anti Christian ethos amongst todays producers.? Why don't they dare have a villainous Rabbi or Immam.?
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Old 09-01-2014, 15:54
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Yes, I knew straight away it would be one of the vicars. It seems common now in these detective series for the vicar to be the villain. Is it part of an anti Christian ethos amongst todays producers.? Why don't they dare have a villainous Rabbi or Immam.?
Yes, Christians in general and Vicars in particular seem usually to be portrayed in a bad light.

Luckily there is Father Brown on BBC as an antidote.
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Old 09-01-2014, 16:05
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I thought it was always the vicar?

(Lewis is finished for ever, btw. **sobs**)
Not according to Laurence Fox it isn't

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01n7gp6

4mins 40secs or so in
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Old 09-01-2014, 16:18
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Not according to Laurence Fox it isn't

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01n7gp6

4mins 40secs or so in
Well, that's amazingly good news to cheer up a dreary, wet afternoon.

Thanks for posting that, Verence.
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Old 09-01-2014, 16:22
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Well, that's amazingly good news to cheer up a dreary, wet afternoon.

Thanks for posting that, Verence.
You're very welcome
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Old 09-01-2014, 16:22
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Yes, I knew straight away it would be one of the vicars. It seems common now in these detective series for the vicar to be the villain. Is it part of an anti Christian ethos amongst todays producers.? Why don't they dare have a villainous Rabbi or Immam.?
TBH if it were any programme other than MM I'd agree that there was some kind of agenda, like the "Floods" in this weeks episode but I really think that its just not that kind of show.
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Old 09-01-2014, 16:40
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TBH if it were any programme other than MM I'd agree that there was some kind of agenda, like the "Floods" in this weeks episode but I really think that its just not that kind of show.
Anyway MM is set in rural England and there aren't that many rabbis and imans about in those areas
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Old 09-01-2014, 16:48
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Originally Posted by valkay
Yes, I knew straight away it would be one of the vicars. It seems common now in these detective series for the vicar to be the villain. Is it part of an anti Christian ethos amongst todays producers.? Why don't they dare have a villainous Rabbi or Immam.?
Good question! I mean, it's not as if they really include any 'good Christians' in the plot to balance it out, so it does seem a bit tasteless. It was fine for the memorable climactic scene in "Death's Shadow", but they shouldn't really play the 'evil vicar/priest' card too often because it does end up feeling like there's an anti-Christian sentiment. It's not helped at all by the greedy female vicar (can't remember her name) or the fact that the vicar baddie was shown up by an atheist (John Barnaby). Even Nelson made a crack about Churches giving him the creeps when they first walked in there. We could do with a bit more variety of opinion from the characters.

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Anyway MM is set in rural England and there aren't that many rabbis and imans about in those areas
I see your point, but they've been bringing in people of more diverse ethnicities for the last couple of series', so we could see people of other faiths, both villainous and non-villainous.

But anyway, the point is that Christianity could do with a slightly better representation on the show.
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Old 09-01-2014, 19:15
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Very confused by MM last night, fell asleep about 30 minutes before the end, woke up to a police officer making a statement and a very angry crowd yelling at him, thought 'blimey, Midsomer's got a bit fruity' not realising I'd woken up during the news report on the fall out of the Mark Duggan enquiry
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Old 10-01-2014, 21:19
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So "Lewis's Chief Superintendent, Jean Innocent" (Rebecca Front) was moonlighting as a vicar in this.
I wish they wouldn't do that. There's plenty of other actors about.
That's the problem with being in something for twenty-nine episodes.
She's been in LOADS of things! Before Lewis and since Lewis.

Though when I saw her in New Tricks once it took a few scenes for me to ignore the fact she was Robbie's boss!

Lovely to see Roy Hudd again. He's looking well, and he's lost weight!
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Old 29-01-2014, 22:02
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What an improvment this series has been. a really good one tonight. loved the twist ending
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Old 29-01-2014, 22:06
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What an improvment this series has been. a really good one tonight. loved the twist ending
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Yes I intrigued as to how they did that
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Old 29-01-2014, 22:13
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Yes I intrigued as to how they did that
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Old 30-01-2014, 15:23
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What an improvment this series has been. a really good one tonight. loved the twist ending
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I thought this week's episode was very good. The scripts and plots seem to have gone up a notch this series.

I think Neil Dudgeon is excellent as the current Barnaby, now he has settled in, and the new sidekick is just right.

I still love Sykes best, though (and I don't even like dogs!)
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Old 30-01-2014, 18:31
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Pleased that I managed to correctly guess the murderer's identity again! Though as with the episode we had in early January, there were moments that made me hesitate.

Mild spoiler (sort of) for next week's episode:
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Wonder if Jones will briefly appear in the 100th episode, like Daniel Casey did in the 50th. Mind you, we'd probably know by now if he was coming back.
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Old 30-01-2014, 20:27
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I thought this week's episode was very good. The scripts and plots seem to have gone up a notch this series.

I think Neil Dudgeon is excellent as the current Barnaby, now he has settled in, and the new sidekick is just right.

I still love Sykes best, though (and I don't even like dogs!)
I love Sykes too - my dog went bonkers when he squeaked his cuddly toy!

Really enjoyed last night's episode. The new partnership is shaping up well and I've always liked Neil Dudgeon.
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Old 30-01-2014, 20:30
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I enjoyed last night's episode too.
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Old 30-01-2014, 20:35
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Pleased that I managed to correctly guess the murderer's identity again! Though as with the episode we had in early January, there were moments that made me hesitate.

Mild spoiler (sort of) for next week's episode:
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Wonder if Jones will briefly appear in the 100th episode, like Daniel Casey did in the 50th. Mind you, we'd probably know by now if he was coming back.
I think she took maternity in real life when they filmed this one so we wont see her at all. but she will have the baby in the 100th but she had already given birth in real life at this time
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Old 30-01-2014, 22:02
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What an improvment this series has been. a really good one tonight. loved the twist ending
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Me too... I thought the twist was great too. I didn't guess the killer but really enjoyed the episode.
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