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The new Midsomer Murders with Neil Dudgeon Thread
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sheila blige
30-01-2014
Originally Posted by who me?:
“Me too... I thought the twist was great too. I didn't guess the killer but really enjoyed the episode.”

I enjoyed last night's episode too. I thought MM was back on target again. I really like the new sidekick too. And Sykes - well he just gets better and better.
steveh31
30-01-2014
Yes Nelson has finally grown on me and last night was back to typical village setting let's hope the future one's stay in this vein.
JSemple3
31-01-2014
I must be nuts but I bought my other half most of midsomer on DVD (She is a huge fan) I admit I want to borrow them as I would love to see how everybody developed over the years (Can't judge nelson as he is the new kid on the block as to speak) she got me go hooked I have every ITV3 and ITV episode on planner
bob up and down
31-01-2014
It was OK, I guessed the killer early on (clever me ) but it is what it is, a light hearted mid week romp and it does that very well.
Justabloke
31-01-2014
I caught up with this last night... I just don't find it as interesting as I used to, I don't think its dreadful but for me it no longer feels like "Midsommer Murders"

I found the originals on netflix and have been watching from the start again and the recent stuff just doesn't work as well. I really can't put my finger on why.
Radiomaniac
01-02-2014
I've changed my mind somewhat, since I last posted here (and said that with John Nettles there was no Midsomer).

The last couple with Neil in, that I've seen over the past few weeks, I have really enjoyed.

I'll now be watching all the time!
RoseAnne
01-02-2014
I noticed that Renny Rye directed this episode and thought I hadn't seen the name for a while. First episode since 2012 apparently. Definitely helped the feel of the episode I think.
steveh31
01-02-2014
Originally Posted by Justabloke:
“I caught up with this last night... I just don't find it as interesting as I used to, I don't think its dreadful but for me it no longer feels like "Midsommer Murders"

I found the originals on netflix and have been watching from the start again and the recent stuff just doesn't work as well. I really can't put my finger on why.”

In the originals the main characters were very innocent, Joyce took part in local events, Cully just spent all day at amateur dramatics, Tom just went to work then went home and had an innocent family life, Troy, well who knows what he did after work.

If you actually look at the books Troy was supposed to be sex obsessed and off with every woman he could find.

The new characters are not innocent, they are not shocked by the murders remember Troy would be shocked if anyone turned out to be gay or slightly doolally or was sleeping around.

The current ones expect that sort of thing, that is why it is different pure and simple it is the innocence of the characters.
BlackTarantula
02-02-2014
Just to weigh in on the 'new Midsomer vs. old Midsomer' debate, I'd like to add that the music in the Neil Dudgeon episodes is a lot more sombre than the music in the John Nettles episodes.

When John Nettles was in it, a 'chirpy' theme would pervade village scenes - go back and look at the early episodes and you'll see what I mean. The series gradually moved away from that type of music, and I also think it doesn't try as hard to scare the viewer now in scenes where people are murdered and dead bodies discovered. They seemed to tone it down during Jones's tenure as sidekick. Again, this is obvious from comparing an old episode to the Neil Dudgeon ones.

The musical score is more understated than it used to be, and that gives the show a very different vibe.

By the way, it was nice to see Hayley Mills in the newest episode. Though it was obvious she couldn't be the murderer since she was too nice.
BangersnMash
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by steveh31:
“In the originals the main characters were very innocent, Joyce took part in local events, Cully just spent all day at amateur dramatics, Tom just went to work then went home and had an innocent family life”

Tom always wore a waistcoat.
Joyce was always "experimenting" with Delia Smith.
Cully always came to stay for a while in between jobs/courses.
Troy always said the wrong phrase for "Ladies & Gentlemen"

It was comfy.

Except for the pining down on a lawn of a horrid man and lobbing wine bottles at him with a catapault while his wife encouraged from the window (one of my favourite episodes).

And if I found out that Mrs Barnaby was a member of a society I would immediately leave to save my life
Verence
05-02-2014
Originally Posted by BlackTarantula:
“Just to weigh in on the 'new Midsomer vs. old Midsomer' debate, I'd like to add that the music in the Neil Dudgeon episodes is a lot more sombre than the music in the John Nettles episodes.

The musical score is more understated than it used to be, and that gives the show a very different vibe.”

I thought I was just imagining that the theme music had changed slightly
JSemple3
05-02-2014
Originally Posted by Verence:
“I thought I was just imagining that the theme music had changed slightly”

Oh it was most definety a little different at the start tonight
Doghouse Riley
05-02-2014
Isn't it a bummer when you're in a cornfield being chased by a light plane and there's no petrol tanker around to help you out?
Eater Sundae
05-02-2014
A bit "North by northwestish"
I'll go for "Eth", purely because the character's a good flyer, and she's a national institution
Doghouse Riley
05-02-2014
Originally Posted by Eater Sundae:
“A bit "North by northwestish"
I'll go for "Eth", purely because the character's a good flyer, and she's a national institution”

A nicer touch when the victim arrived, would have been if he'd been on a bus rather than in a pick-up.



They made an issue of mentioning the old dear could fly, so it might be a red herring. I'd be more convinced if they hadn't. But there again...It is Midsomer.

What about the "night flying?" smuggling? So could be the the pilot with the beard who is broke?

Or could be the young RAF pilot who served in Afghanistan, who may have "drug contacts" from there.
A "shoal" of red herrings.

Barney Bee can twist this "any way he chooses," it's always been that way.
Ex Pat
05-02-2014
If only it was that easy to trace an individual computer by an IP address
Eater Sundae
05-02-2014
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“A nicer touch when the victim arrived, would have been if he'd been on a bus rather than in a pick-up.



They made an issue of mentioning the old dear could fly, so it might be a red herring. I'd be more convinced if they hadn't. But there again...It is Midsomer.

What about the "night flying?" smuggling? So could be the the pilot with the beard who is broke?

Or could be the young RAF pilot who served in Afghanistan, who may have "drug contacts" from there.
A "shoal" of red herrings.

Barney Bee can twist this "any way he chooses," it's always been that way.”

TBH, I'm pretty confused as I'm not following it closely, and I got lost when the sidekick started listing out the character names and I didn't know who was who

But I am liking the comic relief of Tamzin Malleson's parent's and Neil feeding his dog at the table. Until now, it's been a bit dull since the new Barnabee arrived, so I'd like to see a more light hearted approach.

Edit. So is it now Gavin, who sabotaged his own plane, before swapping?
petertard
05-02-2014
Neil Dudgeon looks like Cameron.
chrisii2011
05-02-2014
OK episode,not that exciting like last weeks and bernard cribbins badly underused
Doghouse Riley
05-02-2014
Originally Posted by chrisii2011:
“OK episode,not that exciting like last weeks and bernard cribbins badly underused”

Yes, it was all a bit of a mess and a rather mundane murder scenario in the end.

Sykes played his part well.
davor
05-02-2014
Originally Posted by chrisii2011:
“OK episode,not that exciting like last weeks and bernard cribbins badly underused”



Yeah, that's true. I loved Sykes tonight
squirts mum
05-02-2014
Really enjoyed this tonight and was lovely to see the two golden oldies, good episode really beginning to enjoy this series once again.
bryemycaz
05-02-2014
Originally Posted by Eater Sundae:
“A bit "North by northwestish"
I'll go for "Eth", purely because the character's a good flyer, and she's a national institution”

"Eth" your showing your age there
Doghouse Riley
05-02-2014
Originally Posted by bryemycaz:
“"Eth" your showing your age there”

You could never forget "Eth." Not bad for eighty-eight, was she?

This brings back memories of my early teenage years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYPOH4qZcGg

The days of good radio comedy.
Lizaj
06-02-2014
Originally Posted by davor:
“Yeah, that's true. I loved Sykes tonight”

Another Sykes fan and I do hope Mrs B takes weeks and weeks of maternity leave so those 2 can enjoy their box sets in peace. I'd rather have twee Joyce anhday over the perfect educationalist. ND is growing on me..he seems less pompous this series but no he won't ever be JN ( who I still see as Jim of Jersey if a squint at the screen)
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