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Old 06-02-2014, 00:48
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Sykes and John kept getting interrupted! Just as they we're getting cosy too! I really am loving midsomer a lot now! Sir Sykes or...........whatever they would give in doggy knighthoods
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Old 06-02-2014, 00:52
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Yeah, that's true. I loved Sykes tonight
Sykes does project his part well.
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Old 06-02-2014, 06:02
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Isn't it a bummer when you're in a cornfield being chased by a light plane and there's no petrol tanker around to help you out?
Or that your car that you just got out of was not close enough so you can get back in it and drive off
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Old 06-02-2014, 06:23
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Neil Dudgeon looks like Cameron.
EXACTLY what I thought!
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Old 06-02-2014, 06:28
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"Eth" your showing your age there
You don't have to be old to know Eth (although I probably am), because Take It From Here is on BBC Radio 4 Extra every Thursday - due on at 8:30 this morning!
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Old 06-02-2014, 08:59
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It's not often that MM confuses me, but can somebody explain why the secretary's Dad needed to be killed?

It was obvious when we thought it was to do with smuggling but when the reason for the real murders came out I couldn't understand why he had to die? Was it because he saw her flying a plane when she had said she couldn't fly?
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Old 06-02-2014, 09:41
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It's not often that MM confuses me, but can somebody explain why the secretary's Dad needed to be killed?

It was obvious when we thought it was to do with smuggling but when the reason for the real murders came out I couldn't understand why he had to die? Was it because he saw her flying a plane when she had said she couldn't fly?
As far as I can make out, he had seen the fellow she was going to marry, loading up the plane with the goods he was smuggling out. Having said that, i was a bit confused too.

Did anyone else think June has aged quickly all of a sudden and lost a tremendous amount of weight.
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Old 06-02-2014, 09:57
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In the last scene, why were June Whitfield and Bernard Cribbins wearing American style Vets Uniforms? most old soldiers wear berets and blazers with service badge on the pocket. Is it so they can sell it to America and the Americans will understand what they are?
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Old 06-02-2014, 10:22
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It's not often that MM confuses me, but can somebody explain why the secretary's Dad needed to be killed?
He'd seen Laila Rouass flying her husbands body out and tried to blackmail her, which she explained when she was threatening Barnaby with the flare gun.
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:21
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Or that your car that you just got out of was not close enough so you can get back in it and drive off
It was just an "homage" to "North By North West."
Just as he could have got back in the car, so could Cary Grant have just laid down in the cornfield to escape the plane. But it is "cinematic etiquette" not to do so.
As in in all dramas, where someone is being chased by a car, the form is to run forwards towards the camera, not turn to one side or other and duck down a side street to escape the car and be out of sight of the camera.
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:47
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Neil Dudgeon looks like Cameron.
Yes I agree, I am glad someone else can see this, I thought it was just me who thought that, it would easy to take him for Cameron's brother.
As for the plane, if I were chased in a cornfield I would lay flat on the ground till the plane passed over then legged it pdq to the car repeating lying down if need be.
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:58
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Yes I agree, I am glad someone else can see this, I thought it was just me who thought that, it would easy to take him for Cameron's brother.
As for the plane, if I were chased in a cornfield I would lay flat on the ground till the plane passed over then legged it pdq to the car repeating lying down if need be.
The chance of any pilot in a light plane hitting someone, who is a moving target, with a landing wheel is in the "realms of fantasy," but curiously it happens in films.
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:22
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Midsomer is becoming ridiculous. As if there isn't enough irrelevant padding with Barnaby and his wife, we've now got Kate's domestic life with her parents. And how many people, ESPECIALLY in the Police, notorious for skiving and malingering, do you know who routinely spend their free evenings working on a case? Not unless they're on triple time.
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:32
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Midsomer is becoming ridiculous. As if there isn't enough irrelevant padding with Barnaby and his wife, we've now got Kate's domestic life with her parents. And how many people, ESPECIALLY in the Police, notorious for skiving and malingering, do you know who routinely spend their free evenings working on a case? Not unless they're on triple time.
It always was ridiculous.
In the early series, poor old Cully had a succession of jobs for the writers to be able to include her in the circumstances of a few of the murders that occurred. Same on a few occasions with the activities of Joyce.

As with the original Barney Bee, the personal lives of other members of the cast are included to make the main character seem less one dimensional. It's now become more a "dog and pony show" (we've had the dog for a bit, I'm expecting the pony to arrive at any minute).
We've now got a "will they won't they?" element introduced between the pathologist and the sergeant, just as there were occasional ones involving Cully.

It really doesn't bother me, it's a pretty harmless sort of on-going series, that doesn't deserve to be taken too seriously. It's set in an "unreal world" which I guess is part of its enduring attraction for many.
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:43
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As with the original Barney Bee, the personal lives of other members of the cast are included to make the main character seem less one dimensional. It's now become more a "dog and pony show" (we've had the dog for a bit, I'm expecting the pony to arrive at any minute).
We've now got a "will they won't they?" element introduced between the pathologist and the sergeant, just as there were occasional ones involving Cully.

It's true there has always been this nonsense, as with Joyce and Cully, but they'e now effectively doubling it with Kate's personal life. It wouldn't be so bad if it was developing the characters, such as, say, scenes in Rumpole that have little to do with the story. The difference here is it's just mindless froth. And not another tedious 'will they won't they?'
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Old 06-02-2014, 13:00
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, it's a pretty harmless sort of on-going series, that doesn't deserve to be taken too seriously. It's set in an "unreal world" which I guess is part of its enduring attraction for many.
Yes, plenty of artistic licence. The airfield was a Battle of Britain fighter base, so why did June Whitfield land a Lancaster Bomber there? and why was Bernard Cribbins sister returning a Spitfire to Castle Bromwich for repair? Castle Bromwich built new planes but repairs were carried out by RAF ground crew on the base.
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Old 06-02-2014, 13:24
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He'd seen Laila Rouass flying her husbands body out and tried to blackmail her, which she explained when she was threatening Barnaby with the flare gun.
Thanks for that. My wife got home about that time and I felt obliged to at least say hello, hence why I probably missed the explanation.
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Old 06-02-2014, 13:27
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Dammit I was out for the evening and forgot to record.
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Old 06-02-2014, 13:31
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As far as I can make out, he had seen the fellow she was going to marry, loading up the plane with the goods he was smuggling out. Having said that, i was a bit confused too.

Did anyone else think June has aged quickly all of a sudden and lost a tremendous amount of weight.
No. I thought June looked wonderfully well. She's never been 'big' and she didn't look 'scrawny' in this. She just looks amazingly well for her age.
Long may it continue!
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Old 06-02-2014, 13:35
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Yes, plenty of artistic licence. The airfield was a Battle of Britain fighter base, so why did June Whitfield land a Lancaster Bomber there? and why was Bernard Cribbins sister returning a Spitfire to Castle Bromwich for repair? Castle Bromwich built new planes but repairs were carried out by RAF ground crew on the base.
The delivery of the Lancaster, reminded me of the excellent BBC documentary on the girls of the ATA, some of whom like Diana Barnato Walker, were "society," she the daughter of the millionaire Woolf Barnato, (he was a director of Bentley Motors and raced their cars at Brooklands), who could have lived an indolent life here in the former family home in Surrey, but would rather risk her life delivering much needed planes.

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One slight little old lady recalled the occasion when she delivered a heavy bomber to an airfield, that as she descended from the plane and made to walk towards the control tower, the party sent to greet the plane made no move.

"What are you waiting for?" she asked.

"The pilot!"

"I'm the pilot."

They didn't believe her and went and searched the plane.
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Old 06-02-2014, 14:29
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OK episode,not that exciting like last weeks and bernard cribbins badly underused

Felt like he was struggling with every line. Why use him? Let him enjoy his well earned retirement.
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Old 06-02-2014, 14:35
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Yes, it was all a bit of a mess and a rather mundane murder scenario in the end.

Sykes played his part well.

But, is there any point in a dog at all? Contributes nothing to the story, (except perhaps to show what an empty and unfulfilling life Barnaby has), and whenever it is on screen it is clearly staring at its trainer off-camera for its next instruction.

As or seeing eating at, or on the table - yuk!
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Old 06-02-2014, 14:46
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But, is there any point in a dog at all? Contributes nothing to the story, (except perhaps to show what an empty and unfulfilling life Barnaby has), and whenever it is on screen it is clearly staring at its trainer off-camera for its next instruction.

As or seeing eating at, or on the table - yuk!

Maybe the dog was originally introduced, like other characters as I suggested, to make both John Nettles and now Neil Dudgeon, look less one dimensional.

However, the dog is acting the pants off Dudgeon, so it looks as if it's backfired.
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Old 06-02-2014, 15:19
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However, the dog is acting the pants off Dudgeon, so it looks as if it's backfired.

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Old 06-02-2014, 15:54
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It was just an "homage" to "North By North West."
Just as he could have got back in the car, so could Cary Grant have just laid down in the cornfield to escape the plane. But it is "cinematic etiquette" not to do so.
As in in all dramas, where someone is being chased by a car, the form is to run forwards towards the camera, not turn to one side or other and duck down a side street to escape the car and be out of sight of the camera.
But it's so damn annoying
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