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Old 14-01-2016, 14:49
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he wasnt a winco was he he was I thought he was an Air Commodore , not that it really matters .My dad was in the RAF and we moved about every three years and we always moved stations never camps
He was Group Captain Jeremy Ford. I agree with others that it's unlikely he would have remained a Group Captain for 30 years without being promoted..

If there has ever been a more ridiculous Midsomer Murders storyline I have must have missed it. The body that supposedly been buried for 30 years in the shallow grave would have been dug up quite soon after burial by animals.

If these latest scripts are the best they can come up with then it's about time they quit before viewers stop watching.
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Old 14-01-2016, 14:49
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No the first episode (and still the best) was the Rainbirds who both got murdered I think there were 4 murders in first episode, the Rainbirds saw the first murderer from their window and blackmailed which is why they got killed.
Just such a classic episode as was the next one "written in blood" pure horrific
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Old 14-01-2016, 14:54
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He was Group Captain Jeremy Ford. I agree with others that it's unlikely he would have remained a Group Captain for 30 years without being promoted..

If there has ever been a more ridiculous Midsomer Murders storyline I have must have missed it. The body that supposedly been buried for 30 years in the shallow grave would have been dug up quite soon after burial by animals.

If these latest scripts are the best they can come up with then it's about time they quit before viewers stop watching.
All the budget has been spent on diversity inspectors, they've very little left for anything as trivial as a script/story.
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Old 14-01-2016, 15:02
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The fact that the majority of the discussion about the latest episode has been nothing other than complaining about the amount of diversity pretty much explains why it's happening.
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Old 14-01-2016, 15:24
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All the budget has been spent on diversity inspectors, they've very little left for anything as trivial as a script/story.
I am sure i speak for others , i enjoyed the episode, if you thought it daft or not, which you did..i am sure if you stop watching there will be thousands of others still eager to watch.
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Old 14-01-2016, 15:35
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I am sure i speak for others , i enjoyed the episode, if you thought it daft or not, which you did..i am sure if you stop watching there will be thousands of others still eager to watch.
Oh I'm sorry , I'll withdraw from the discussion forthwith or perhaps I should run my opinions past you before I add them to the general discussion?

I see your spore all over the forum and you're frequently telling people what they may or may not do. I was unaware of your appointment to the forum police. Unlike you I wouldn't presume to speak on behalf of others but you fill your boots.

The point is, that the "diversity" has been included in a very heavy handed and unnecessary way. For me this was a distraction from the show itself. The show never felt the need to be politically correct in the past and changing it in such a jarring way simply smacks of pandering. There is of course no reason to not include a diverse cast but of course that changes the nature of the show.

I do so sincerely hope this post meets with your approval but if by some chance it doesn't *shrug* I don't care.
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Old 14-01-2016, 15:36
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The fact that the majority of the discussion about the latest episode has been nothing other than complaining about the amount of diversity pretty much explains why it's happening.
The fact that its the only thing people feel like discussing about the show should tell you something.
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Old 14-01-2016, 15:59
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I've pretty much given up taking Midsomer Murders as any kind of serious detective series now - it's just a pleasant way of passing 2 hours in the middle of the week and playing spot the star and 'Where have I seen him/her before?'.

There are much worse atrocities on our screens - and 5million plus viewers last night can't all be wrong (unless of course they dozed off and just left it it running, which I've a suspicion I did at one point).

With those sorts of viewing figures, ITV aren't going to change it any time soon.
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Old 14-01-2016, 16:22
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- it's just a pleasant way of passing 2 hours in the middle of the week and playing spot the star and 'Where have I seen him/her before?'.
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Old 14-01-2016, 16:34
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I've pretty much given up taking Midsomer Murders as any kind of serious detective series now - it's just a pleasant way of passing 2 hours in the middle of the week and playing spot the star and 'Where have I seen him/her before?'.
I do the same with the various subtitled dramas that BBC4 show on Saturday nights
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Old 14-01-2016, 16:40
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A very disappointing episode.

Poorly written, with too many unexplained gaps and inconsistencies. Presumably the writers for this episode were still on a work experience placement and had no idea how to create, construct and write a realistic, (in TV terms) script.


Grudgingly, I have to admit that the only performer with any semblance of credibility was the accursed hound - Sykes.
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Old 14-01-2016, 17:13
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I enjoyed it!!!!!
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Old 14-01-2016, 18:03
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I didn't not enjoy it I just find the soco constantly belittling nelson a bit cringe making,and as an RAF brat I dislike the bad research
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Old 14-01-2016, 18:18
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I've pretty much given up taking Midsomer Murders as any kind of serious detective series now - it's just a pleasant way of passing 2 hours in the middle of the week and playing spot the star and 'Where have I seen him/her before?'.

There are much worse atrocities on our screens - and 5million plus viewers last night can't all be wrong (unless of course they dozed off and just left it it running, which I've a suspicion I did at one point).

With those sorts of viewing figures, ITV aren't going to change it any time soon.
If you do as I do and record it, then play it back and FF the adverts it's a pleasant way to spend 90 minutes. That's assuming it's an interesting story, unlike last night's..
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Old 14-01-2016, 19:01
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If you do as I do and record it, then play it back and FF the adverts it's a pleasant way to spend 90 minutes. That's assuming it's an interesting story, unlike last night's..
I'm doing the same with the repeats of Judge John Deed on the Drama channel at the moment, a very pleasant way to spend an afternoon off.

(Incidentally, if you want laughable implausibility, Judge John Deed is your man.)
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Old 15-01-2016, 08:05
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The best way I can think of describing this episode is 'unengaging'.

On the diversity front, I'm pretty sure that if there hadn't been the public ruckus over Ted Childs' casting decisions, no one would even notice.
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Old 15-01-2016, 08:16
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He was Group Captain Jeremy Ford. I agree with others that it's unlikely he would have remained a Group Captain for 30 years without being promoted.
I would say it's unheard of.

Group captain is a very high rank and he would have had to achieve it by the age of 25 as he has clearly not reached retirement age. (The army equivalent would be a 25 y/o colonel.)

The idea that such a star would remain at that rank for 30 years and be left running a warehouse is absurd.
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Old 15-01-2016, 08:24
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I would say it's unheard of.

Group captain is a very high rank and he would have had to achieve it by the age of 25 as he has clearly not reached retirement age. (The army equivalent would be a 25 y/o colonel.)

The idea that such a star would remain at that rank for 30 years and be left running a warehouse is absurd.
It's Midsomer Murders - you expect everything to be absurd! I find it (quite) funny that the inconsistencies about the rank of the RAF officer, is it a 'base' or a 'station' questions seem to be generating more disbelief than the idea of UFOs in the first place
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Old 15-01-2016, 09:12
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It's Midsomer Murders - you expect everything to be absurd! I find it (quite) funny that the inconsistencies about the rank of the RAF officer, is it a 'base' or a 'station' questions seem to be generating more disbelief than the idea of UFOs in the first place
but it was obvious the ufo was bollocks
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Old 15-01-2016, 09:21
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It's Midsomer Murders - you expect everything to be absurd!
I think this is a mistake a lot of people (including quiet a few writers) make. Just because something contains certain elements of unrealism does not mean you have carte blanche to be careless about other aspects of a story.

In MSM, we suspend disbelief about most aspects of police procedure but that does not mean that the writers get a free pass to be lazy with all other aspects of reality. We don't expect Nelson to drive around in a Rolls Royce!

The group captain thing was particularly egregious because (for anyone with even a minimal grasp of RAF workings) it was completely confusing when they first mentioned the group captain from the eighties; we knew it (in reality) couldn't be the same person so we missed dialogue whilst trying to make sense of what we'd heard - "did I hear that right / was it his father ..."

I find it (quite) funny that the inconsistencies about the rank of the RAF officer, is it a 'base' or a 'station' questions seem to be generating more disbelief than the idea of UFOs in the first place )
But it wasn't about UFO's, was it?

And no one is concerned that the physics behind the craft, as shown, could not work - that sort of detail - provided it's not too ridiculous - isn't really relevant.
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Old 15-01-2016, 09:51
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but it was obvious the ufo was bollocks
Was it - I thought it was about the most realistic thing I'd seen in a Midsomer plot for years....
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Old 15-01-2016, 10:49
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Was it - I thought it was about the most realistic thing I'd seen in a Midsomer plot for years....
As someone on twitter said , I really miss the days when Rchard Briars was a mad vicar and all the plots were grudges from three centuries ago
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Old 15-01-2016, 11:04
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As someone on twitter said , I really miss the days when Rchard Briars was a mad vicar and all the plots were grudges from three centuries ago
Ah those were the days!
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Old 15-01-2016, 11:06
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I think this is a mistake a lot of people (including quiet a few writers) make. Just because something contains certain elements of unrealism does not mean you have carte blanche to be careless about other aspects of a story.

In MSM, we suspend disbelief about most aspects of police procedure but that does not mean that the writers get a free pass to be lazy with all other aspects of reality. We don't expect Nelson to drive around in a Rolls Royce!

The group captain thing was particularly egregious because (for anyone with even a minimal grasp of RAF workings) it was completely confusing when they first mentioned the group captain from the eighties; we knew it (in reality) couldn't be the same person so we missed dialogue whilst trying to make sense of what we'd heard - "did I hear that right / was it his father ..."

But it wasn't about UFO's, was it?

And no one is concerned that the physics behind the craft, as shown, could not work - that sort of detail - provided it's not too ridiculous - isn't really relevant.
I guess I can understand that - we all know UFOs aren't real, so we don't expect any semblance of reality, but yes, they should at least try for some modicum of reality for issues like the rank of the group captain and so on.
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Old 15-01-2016, 11:43
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I guess I can understand that - we all know UFOs aren't real, so we don't expect any semblance of reality, but yes, they should at least try for some modicum of reality for issues like the rank of the group captain and so on.
No, for me the Appeal of MM was the fact that it was completely divorced from reality. Proper "chewing gum for the eyes" TV. There's enough generic murder mystery on TV already striving for reality
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