Originally Posted by Hamlet77:
“No Nelson is scruffy.”
“No Nelson is scruffy.”
To be fair, the newer guy Aiden, in Vera is also more casual than Joe, his predecessor who wore shirts and black trousers. Maybe it's A Thing?
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To be fair, the newer guy Aiden, in Vera is also more casual than Joe, his predecessor who wore shirts and black trousers. Maybe it's A Thing?
Am I missing something? But why was the need for all the killing, as it turns out she was the heir to the fortune so wouldn't she she just have been entitled to it after the dig had finished?
Originally Posted by Fayecorgasm:
“stone her stone her .I am just bored with the whole women making men look stupid thing, thats not gender equality thats revenge”
“stone her stone her .I am just bored with the whole women making men look stupid thing, thats not gender equality thats revenge”
I think the majority of normal people are...
Its a meedja / liberal elite thing the whole "gosh look at the man he' so stupid compared to this woman! "
Originally Posted by tomvoxx:
“Just popped in quickly to push for Sykes to be given the lead in an episode. He's a far better actor than at least a third of the cast!”
“Just popped in quickly to push for Sykes to be given the lead in an episode. He's a far better actor than at least a third of the cast!”
I agree. I think Sykes is carrying the show at the moment.
Originally Posted by Ocado:
“Whilst I do miss Kate, I actually like Kam. Probably the only viewer who does, judging by this thread.”
“Whilst I do miss Kate, I actually like Kam. Probably the only viewer who does, judging by this thread.”
Not at all.
She's absolutely fine.
I'm afraid it's just part of the lamentable misogyny on the Internet that causes people to incessantly harp on about female actors they don't like.
As far as I can see, the only thing that's causing a problem is the 'will the/won't they' thing they are ineptly setting up with Nelson - part of which is the whole 'superhuman' aspect of the character.
But I suspect that the incessant bleating going on here is more to do with a certain type of person who is uncomfortable with strong, intelligent, female characters - particularly if they show up men.
Originally Posted by Hamlet77:
“No Nelson is scruffy.
BTW less of Sykes please, he's becoming a distraction rather than a witty extra.”
“No Nelson is scruffy.
BTW less of Sykes please, he's becoming a distraction rather than a witty extra.”
The accursed dog is only used as a filler to make up the time between ads.
It's an easy option for the writers - no script, no effort, no story line needed.
Originally Posted by Vetinari:
“Not at all.
She's absolutely fine.
I'm afraid it's just part of the lamentable misogyny on the Internet that causes people to incessantly harp on about female actors they don't like.
As far as I can see, the only thing that's causing a problem is the 'will the/won't they' thing they are ineptly setting up with Nelson - part of which is the whole 'superhuman' aspect of the character.
But I suspect that the incessant bleating going on here is more to do with a certain type of person who is uncomfortable with strong, intelligent, female characters - particularly if they show up men.”
“Not at all.
She's absolutely fine.
I'm afraid it's just part of the lamentable misogyny on the Internet that causes people to incessantly harp on about female actors they don't like.
As far as I can see, the only thing that's causing a problem is the 'will the/won't they' thing they are ineptly setting up with Nelson - part of which is the whole 'superhuman' aspect of the character.
But I suspect that the incessant bleating going on here is more to do with a certain type of person who is uncomfortable with strong, intelligent, female characters - particularly if they show up men.
”
Wow... so if I don't like a female character or think a female actress is a bit shit that makes me a misogynist
what a seriously patronizing post.
Strong female leads do not need to belittle men in order to be considered strong. Look no further than Ellen Ripley for a strong female lead that doesn't constantly belittle men.
Or perhaps you'd like something a bit more lightweight as an example then look to Buffy. There are any number of strong female leads that do not spend the entire show making a man look like an idiot.
The only blinkers in this thread are those worn by you.
Originally Posted by Justabloke:
“Wow... so if I don't like a female character or think a female actress is a bit shit that makes me a misogynist
what a seriously patronizing post.
Strong female leads do not need to belittle men in order to be considered strong. Look no further than Ellen Ripley for a strong female lead that doesn't constantly belittle men.
Or perhaps you'd like something a bit more lightweight as an example then look to Buffy. There are any number of strong female leads that do not spend the entire show making a man look like an idiot.
The only blinkers in this thread are those worn by you.”
“Wow... so if I don't like a female character or think a female actress is a bit shit that makes me a misogynist
what a seriously patronizing post.
Strong female leads do not need to belittle men in order to be considered strong. Look no further than Ellen Ripley for a strong female lead that doesn't constantly belittle men.
Or perhaps you'd like something a bit more lightweight as an example then look to Buffy. There are any number of strong female leads that do not spend the entire show making a man look like an idiot.
The only blinkers in this thread are those worn by you.”
As a woman I agree with you. There are plenty of well written female characters out there, Olivia in Scandal for instance, where they dont need to make men feel small to be successful. I really dont like that kind of woman and Ive met a few. Its only a step away from bullying. I like Kam as a stand alone character, but this pairing with Nelson is embarassing. The will they wont they isnt realistic as in real life Nelson (and everyone else) ould find her a huge pain in the arse.
Originally Posted by Grumpy_Alan:
“The accursed dog is only used as a filler to make up the time between ads.
It's an easy option for the writers - no script, no effort, no story line needed.”
“The accursed dog is only used as a filler to make up the time between ads.
It's an easy option for the writers - no script, no effort, no story line needed.”
you've kinda summed the show up there!
Originally Posted by MagicCoppelia:
“I agree. I think Sykes is carrying the show at the moment.”
“I agree. I think Sykes is carrying the show at the moment.
”
Sykes should get his own series: Sykes investigates.
Originally Posted by tartan-belle:
“To be fair, the newer guy Aiden, in Vera is also more casual than Joe, his predecessor who wore shirts and black trousers. Maybe it's A Thing?”
“To be fair, the newer guy Aiden, in Vera is also more casual than Joe, his predecessor who wore shirts and black trousers. Maybe it's A Thing?”
Yes. A scruffy Thing
I didn't find this week's episode especially impressive but I did like how they created a good deal of suspense in a number of scenes (like the break-in, and the later murders). I didn't manage to guess the true identity of the murderer this time, so fair play to them.
Yes, that one was shocking. I haven't seen it in years and only saw it once - maybe twice - but yeah, that was a gruesome one!
The pike murder? Sort of reminded me of the similar murder in... Orchis Fatalis, was it?
To be fair, they gave John Barnaby's 'psychological persuasion tactic' a rest for a while, up until last week's art-themed episode. I don't think he put his psychology degree to use last series, or in earlier episodes of this series like the bodysnatching/UFO/cycling episodes. They relied on that aspect of his character a lot in his first full series though. Though I don't see how we were encouraged to feel sorry for this killer?
As long as they have a male murderer next week, it will be 3 males and 3 females this series (yes, I'm counting the bodysnatcher). Sometimes there's a major imbalance though. Nearly all of the killers in Dudgeon's first series were male, and that was a long series compared to more recent ones. But then they were nearly all female in 2014 series... Hopefully it's a guy next week!
I think the producers have been pondering a DS/pathologist pairing for some time. Remember when they teased Jones and Kate during Jason Hughes' final series? In the episode about astronomy.
You're right. In fact, Nelson usually seems quite calm but he seemed decidedly aggressive when interviewing the vicar in this week's episode, so that didn't help.
I'm guessing you haven't watched the show before this series, because Sykes' role has been toned down. He had more screen time and focus in Dudgeon's first full series. He was more active generally. I guess he's getting older now.
Not to veer off-topic, but doesn't Aiden wear shirts and black trousers too?
Originally Posted by bryemycaz:
“Though the one from the Scott era that always sticks in my mind is from Midsomer Rhapsody. Where the guy on the motorbike got decapitated. His head popped off like a Champange cork.”
“Though the one from the Scott era that always sticks in my mind is from Midsomer Rhapsody. Where the guy on the motorbike got decapitated. His head popped off like a Champange cork.”
Yes, that one was shocking. I haven't seen it in years and only saw it once - maybe twice - but yeah, that was a gruesome one!
Originally Posted by Polomini:
“Holy c**p - that last murder made me jump”
“Holy c**p - that last murder made me jump”
The pike murder? Sort of reminded me of the similar murder in... Orchis Fatalis, was it?
Originally Posted by chrisii2011:
“
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Spoiler
To be fair, they gave John Barnaby's 'psychological persuasion tactic' a rest for a while, up until last week's art-themed episode. I don't think he put his psychology degree to use last series, or in earlier episodes of this series like the bodysnatching/UFO/cycling episodes. They relied on that aspect of his character a lot in his first full series though. Though I don't see how we were encouraged to feel sorry for this killer?
Originally Posted by lylonic_x:
“Only putting this in spoilers for those still yet to watch but
”
“Only putting this in spoilers for those still yet to watch but
Spoiler
As long as they have a male murderer next week, it will be 3 males and 3 females this series (yes, I'm counting the bodysnatcher). Sometimes there's a major imbalance though. Nearly all of the killers in Dudgeon's first series were male, and that was a long series compared to more recent ones. But then they were nearly all female in 2014 series... Hopefully it's a guy next week!
Originally Posted by Justabloke:
“And seriously, can we stop with the Nelson/ Kam getting together rubbish that's being oh so subtly pushed. It has no part in the show”
“And seriously, can we stop with the Nelson/ Kam getting together rubbish that's being oh so subtly pushed. It has no part in the show”
I think the producers have been pondering a DS/pathologist pairing for some time. Remember when they teased Jones and Kate during Jason Hughes' final series? In the episode about astronomy.
Originally Posted by valkay:
“There does seem to be some anti Christian bias in t.v. detective series, when it often seems that the vicar is the villain and not the good guy.”
“There does seem to be some anti Christian bias in t.v. detective series, when it often seems that the vicar is the villain and not the good guy.”
You're right. In fact, Nelson usually seems quite calm but he seemed decidedly aggressive when interviewing the vicar in this week's episode, so that didn't help.
Originally Posted by Hamlet77:
“BTW less of Sykes please, he's becoming a distraction rather than a witty extra.”
“BTW less of Sykes please, he's becoming a distraction rather than a witty extra.”
I'm guessing you haven't watched the show before this series, because Sykes' role has been toned down. He had more screen time and focus in Dudgeon's first full series. He was more active generally. I guess he's getting older now.
Originally Posted by tartan-belle:
“To be fair, the newer guy Aiden, in Vera is also more casual than Joe, his predecessor who wore shirts and black trousers. Maybe it's A Thing?”
“To be fair, the newer guy Aiden, in Vera is also more casual than Joe, his predecessor who wore shirts and black trousers. Maybe it's A Thing?”
Not to veer off-topic, but doesn't Aiden wear shirts and black trousers too?
Current problems I have with Midsomer:
Since the fuss about the lack of minorities we have to have one every episode now and they are never the murderer.
itv need to drop this insistence that there is a murder before nearly every commercial break just to try to keep the viewers from turning over.
For the last few episodes I have watchedit has ended with Barnaby talking to the murderer while Jones or Nelson creep round to grab them.
In the last episode did nobody hear a great digger ploughing through the village at midnight.
When the person ransacked the tent how did he manage to escape when there were open fields all around the tent surely one policeman would have seen them running.
Since the fuss about the lack of minorities we have to have one every episode now and they are never the murderer.
itv need to drop this insistence that there is a murder before nearly every commercial break just to try to keep the viewers from turning over.
For the last few episodes I have watchedit has ended with Barnaby talking to the murderer while Jones or Nelson creep round to grab them.
In the last episode did nobody hear a great digger ploughing through the village at midnight.
When the person ransacked the tent how did he manage to escape when there were open fields all around the tent surely one policeman would have seen them running.
Originally Posted by BlackTarantula:
“I didn't find this week's episode especially impressive but I did like how they created a good deal of suspense in a number of scenes (like the break-in, and the later murders). I didn't manage to guess the true identity of the murderer this time, so fair play to them.
Yes, that one was shocking. I haven't seen it in years and only saw it once - maybe twice - but yeah, that was a gruesome one!
The pike murder? Sort of reminded me of the similar murder in... Orchis Fatalis, was it?
To be fair, they gave John Barnaby's 'psychological persuasion tactic' a rest for a while, up until last week's art-themed episode. I don't think he put his psychology degree to use last series, or in earlier episodes of this series like the bodysnatching/UFO/cycling episodes. They relied on that aspect of his character a lot in his first full series though. Though I don't see how we were encouraged to feel sorry for this killer?
As long as they have a male murderer next week, it will be 3 males and 3 females this series (yes, I'm counting the bodysnatcher). Sometimes there's a major imbalance though. Nearly all of the killers in Dudgeon's first series were male, and that was a long series compared to more recent ones. But then they were nearly all female in 2014 series... Hopefully it's a guy next week!
I think the producers have been pondering a DS/pathologist pairing for some time. Remember when they teased Jones and Kate during Jason Hughes' final series? In the episode about astronomy.
You're right. In fact, Nelson usually seems quite calm but he seemed decidedly aggressive when interviewing the vicar in this week's episode, so that didn't help.
I'm guessing you haven't watched the show before this series, because Sykes' role has been toned down. He had more screen time and focus in Dudgeon's first full series. He was more active generally. I guess he's getting older now.
Not to veer off-topic, but doesn't Aiden wear shirts and black trousers too?”
“I didn't find this week's episode especially impressive but I did like how they created a good deal of suspense in a number of scenes (like the break-in, and the later murders). I didn't manage to guess the true identity of the murderer this time, so fair play to them.
Yes, that one was shocking. I haven't seen it in years and only saw it once - maybe twice - but yeah, that was a gruesome one!
The pike murder? Sort of reminded me of the similar murder in... Orchis Fatalis, was it?
To be fair, they gave John Barnaby's 'psychological persuasion tactic' a rest for a while, up until last week's art-themed episode. I don't think he put his psychology degree to use last series, or in earlier episodes of this series like the bodysnatching/UFO/cycling episodes. They relied on that aspect of his character a lot in his first full series though. Though I don't see how we were encouraged to feel sorry for this killer?
As long as they have a male murderer next week, it will be 3 males and 3 females this series (yes, I'm counting the bodysnatcher). Sometimes there's a major imbalance though. Nearly all of the killers in Dudgeon's first series were male, and that was a long series compared to more recent ones. But then they were nearly all female in 2014 series... Hopefully it's a guy next week!
I think the producers have been pondering a DS/pathologist pairing for some time. Remember when they teased Jones and Kate during Jason Hughes' final series? In the episode about astronomy.
You're right. In fact, Nelson usually seems quite calm but he seemed decidedly aggressive when interviewing the vicar in this week's episode, so that didn't help.
I'm guessing you haven't watched the show before this series, because Sykes' role has been toned down. He had more screen time and focus in Dudgeon's first full series. He was more active generally. I guess he's getting older now.
Not to veer off-topic, but doesn't Aiden wear shirts and black trousers too?”
BIB and they very wisely dropped it.
Originally Posted by ringleaderlon:
“Current problems I have with Midsomer:
Since the fuss about the lack of minorities we have to have one every episode now and they are never the murderer.
”
“Current problems I have with Midsomer:
Since the fuss about the lack of minorities we have to have one every episode now and they are never the murderer.
”
Absolutely. It's annoying. When they're in every episode, there has to come a point where one of them turns out to be the killer.
Originally Posted by BlackTarantula:
“Absolutely. It's annoying. When they're in every episode, there has to come a point where one of them turns out to be the killer.”
“Absolutely. It's annoying. When they're in every episode, there has to come a point where one of them turns out to be the killer.”
That wouldn't be showing them in a positive light now would it?
Just happy not to be suffering the totally insufferable wife Joyce, and daughter Cully (who names their daughter Cully???) Love Sykes (aka Harvey).
Originally Posted by yviebabe:
“Just happy not to be suffering the totally insufferable wife Joyce, and daughter Cully (who names their daughter Cully???) Love Sykes (aka Harvey).”
“Just happy not to be suffering the totally insufferable wife Joyce, and daughter Cully (who names their daughter Cully???) Love Sykes (aka Harvey).”
That was the charm of the original MM
also, I enjoyed Cully, she didn't add that much but when she did I enjoyed it. I remember when she got with the band manager (wasn't it? lol) and then got married and went to New Zealand didn't she?
Originally Posted by lylonic_x:
“That was the charm of the original MM also, I enjoyed Cully, she didn't add that much but when she did I enjoyed it. I remember when she got with the band manager (wasn't it? lol) and then got married and went to New Zealand didn't she?”
“That was the charm of the original MM
also, I enjoyed Cully, she didn't add that much but when she did I enjoyed it. I remember when she got with the band manager (wasn't it? lol) and then got married and went to New Zealand didn't she?”
In the early series, poor Cully got jobs and male attachments to suit the plots!
Missed last weeks and there doesn't appear to be a repeat available :/
At least this one has plenty of opportunity for some ingenious deaths down at the fair
At least this one has plenty of opportunity for some ingenious deaths down at the fair
Originally Posted by Jim_Ula:
“Missed last weeks and there doesn't appear to be a repeat available :/
At least this one has plenty of opportunity for some ingenious deaths down at the fair”
“Missed last weeks and there doesn't appear to be a repeat available :/
At least this one has plenty of opportunity for some ingenious deaths down at the fair
”
The new series episodes on ITV aren't repeated, you have to catch up on ITV Hub. It will almost certainly appear on one of the ITV channels ITV3 or ITV Encore later in the year.
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