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Old 22-02-2016, 12:49
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The current series has become repetitive so here's my:

What will happen every week in the current series of Midsomer:

Mr & Mrs Barnaby will have there own cutesy little puke fest sickly sweet story either involving Sykes or the daughter

There will be at least one black or asian main character who will be built up to be the murderer but in the end it won't be them.

Nelson and Kam will have a will have a storyline where they will compete over something but neither of them will win out in the end.

At the final murder scene Barnaby will creep up on the suspect while they are explaining why they did they murders and normally either talk them out of killing or use Nelson as a decoy.

The final scene will always be a heartwarming scene between Barnaby and Mrs Barnaby and Sykes.

There will be a murder every second ad break to keep the viewers interested.
Just a couple of alterations, the first scene might include both Sykes and the baby, in some convoluted fashion.

There will be at some stage during the episode a tense part where Nelson and Barnaby will be seen speeding through the countryside with blue lights and sirens, arriving just in time to prevent or witness something not relevant to the murder investigation, but still criminal in some way. There being no other units available anywhere in Midsommer to go to the scene.
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Old 22-02-2016, 13:25
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Can someone answer my question about the diversity fascists? As we know we now have to have the obligatory Black/Asian/Gay couple etc. Ive also no doubt in these murder dramas if the murderer was always a Black or an Asian the usual professional offendees would be out screaming racism by typecasting, well isn't having a white murderer in every episode of every type of whodunit drama then racist and typecasting white people or is reverse racism still acceptable? Ive yet to see anyone other than a white person portray a killer even though we do have a few red herrings where a Black/Asian is suspected then found to be innocent. Ive even noticed this in many US dramas and films too.
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Old 22-02-2016, 15:11
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We have been big fans of MSM from the start and have every episode. Whilst there were a few episodes we did not like with original Barnaby largely we enjoyed them.

The series should have ended when he left.

The episodes since have lost the ingredients needed for a proper MSM. These for me are

Plenty of shots of the lovely village scenes.

At least one truly eccentric character who is thinks themselves above everyone else and of course, the law.

No recycling of actors into other episodes unless they are the same character which would difficult as usually they killed off.

A touch of wry humour.

A decent plot with an ingenious murder. The original series had one or two I.e the drowning in the television and the wine bottles being catapulted at the victim.

As much as I enjoyed MSM I feel it has run its course and should be killed off. The storylines are now very poor, the acting is wooden and Barnaby and co have no likeable personality between them.
Absolutely spot on, especially the humour, it could be very tongue in cheek

The current series has become repetitive so here's my:

What will happen every week in the current series of Midsomer:

Mr & Mrs Barnaby will have there own cutesy little puke fest sickly sweet story either involving Sykes or the daughter

There will be at least one black or asian main character who will be built up to be the murderer but in the end it won't be them.

Nelson and Kam will have a will have a storyline where they will compete over something but neither of them will win out in the end.

At the final murder scene Barnaby will creep up on the suspect while they are explaining why they did they murders and normally either talk them out of killing or use Nelson as a decoy.

The final scene will always be a heartwarming scene between Barnaby and Mrs Barnaby and Sykes.

There will be a murder every second ad break to keep the viewers interested.
LOL You can imagine the scriptwriters being given this for guidelines

Dudgeon doesn't have the charisma of Nettles
I caught a John Nettles ep last week (Vixens Run), honestly there was one part which comprised of him not saying anything for a couple of seconds, but he managed to express so much in those seconds than I've seen in the New Midsomer.
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Old 22-02-2016, 16:45
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Dudgeon doesn't have the charisma of Nettles
I still think Dudgeon talks to everyone in a very condescending manner from his wife to the suspects. It really is rather irritating.
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Old 22-02-2016, 17:15
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Jones was a much more diverse character, he tried to find relationships, he did sporting events, had a past and had a granny who knew everyone in Midsomer.

Nelson what do we really know? What do we want to know? Would it really be of interest to the storyline to be fair I think an unknown Nelson is not bad, we never really knew Troy apart from he liked girls but never seem to have had one, he hated gays and couldn't drive.
That is true, Jones' gran knew everything also, Jones did get more involved in everything. I do miss Jones, that was something about him that was more homely. Always thought that, when Nettles left, the natural progression was Jones taking over from him..was actually gutted it didn't to be honest
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Old 22-02-2016, 17:24
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That is true, Jones' gran knew everything also, Jones did get more involved in everything. I do miss Jones, that was something about him that was more homely. Always thought that, when Nettles left, the natural progression was Jones taking over from him..was actually gutted it didn't to be honest
Jones sometimes had a personality change, depending on the script.
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Old 22-02-2016, 17:26
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That is true, Jones' gran knew everything also, Jones did get more involved in everything. I do miss Jones, that was something about him that was more homely. Always thought that, when Nettles left, the natural progression was Jones taking over from him..was actually gutted it didn't to be honest
Must admit I thought that too, seemed as if he would take the reins. Could have even married Cully and changed his name to Barnaby to ensure it worked in France too .

Unfortunately Jones didn't get the job and became totally stupid all of a sudden for some reason.
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Old 22-02-2016, 18:28
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Its strange because I always think of Jones as that new bloke who took over from (Troy Who supported Middlesbrough and I suspect had a bit of a crush on Cully )I never really liked Jones and ima am quite surprised by the love for him on here .Id like to see the new Barnaby meet the Rainbirds but then I long for the kind of plots that needed peope like the rainbirds
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Old 22-02-2016, 19:32
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Its strange because I always think of Jones as that new bloke who took over from (Troy Who supported Middlesbrough and I suspect had a bit of a crush on Cully )I never really liked Jones and ima am quite surprised by the love for him on here .Id like to see the new Barnaby meet the Rainbirds but then I long for the kind of plots that needed peope like the rainbirds
Think Elizabeth Spriggs is currently unavailable for that role

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Old 23-02-2016, 00:37
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Its strange because I always think of Jones as that new bloke who took over from (Troy Who supported Middlesbrough and I suspect had a bit of a crush on Cully )I never really liked Jones and ima am quite surprised by the love for him on here .Id like to see the new Barnaby meet the Rainbirds but then I long for the kind of plots that needed peope like the rainbirds
Yeah, the love for Jones is a bit strange. I wonder, is it because he was the longest-serving sidekick? I found him annoying at times.
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Old 23-02-2016, 00:54
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Jones sometimes had a personality change, depending on the script.
When Dudgeon first took over they made Jones dumber than the more intelligent character he was with Nettles, that grated to be honest.
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Old 23-02-2016, 08:46
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...departure.html

There have been at least 24 ethnic minority characters in the last 20 episodes of the show. Conversely, there is believed to have been just one non-white character in the 89 episodes before the race row.
Of the 24 non-white characters who have appeared in the show following the race row, at least 22 have been cast in a mixed-race relationship with a white actor or actress.
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Old 23-02-2016, 14:14
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Think Elizabeth Spriggs is currently unavailable for that role

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They were great characters.
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Old 23-02-2016, 15:18
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Anyone remember the horrible miscast:
John Hopkins (born 1974) , known for playing Sgt. Dan Scott on Midsomer Murders!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...30_468x317.jpg

"DS Scott was never formally written out of the show; he is merely described as being “ill” in one episode and then never mentioned again."
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Old 23-02-2016, 16:42
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Anyone remember the horrible miscast:
John Hopkins (born 1974) , known for playing Sgt. Dan Scott on Midsomer Murders!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...30_468x317.jpg

"DS Scott was never formally written out of the show; he is merely described as being “ill” in one episode and then never mentioned again."
I think he would have done better as an Elvis impersonator, assuming he can sing a bit.
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Old 23-02-2016, 16:46
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That is true, Jones' gran knew everything also, Jones did get more involved in everything. I do miss Jones, that was something about him that was more homely. Always thought that, when Nettles left, the natural progression was Jones taking over from him..was actually gutted it didn't to be honest
Like you, I was expecting Jones to take over with Gail Stevens, who had come to the fore in recent episodes, as his sidekick. An opportunity missed I think.
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Old 23-02-2016, 17:06
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Anyone remember the horrible miscast:
John Hopkins (born 1974) , known for playing Sgt. Dan Scott on Midsomer Murders!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...30_468x317.jpg

"DS Scott was never formally written out of the show; he is merely described as being “ill” in one episode and then never mentioned again."
I liked Scott he was by far the fittest sidekick in any detective series
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Old 23-02-2016, 18:19
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Anyone remember the horrible miscast:
John Hopkins (born 1974) , known for playing Sgt. Dan Scott on Midsomer Murders!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...30_468x317.jpg

"DS Scott was never formally written out of the show; he is merely described as being “ill” in one episode and then never mentioned again."

I always thought it was cruel the way he got totally written out in that way
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Old 23-02-2016, 18:39
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I always thought it was cruel the way he got totally written out in that way
He actually jacked it in.
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Old 23-02-2016, 18:39
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A shame that John Hopkins quit after just 2 series.

Anyone remember the horrible miscast:
John Hopkins (born 1974) , known for playing Sgt. Dan Scott on Midsomer Murders!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...30_468x317.jpg

"DS Scott was never formally written out of the show; he is merely described as being “ill” in one episode and then never mentioned again."
He wasn't miscast... And he happened to be in some of the show's best episodes.
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Old 23-02-2016, 19:24
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I always thought it was cruel the way he got totally written out in that way
He preferred the theatre to tv work.
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Old 25-02-2016, 08:20
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Think Elizabeth Spriggs is currently unavailable for that role

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"The hearts are fish paste, the spades are ham"........

The Rainbirds were fabulous
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Old 25-02-2016, 08:31
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...departure.html

There have been at least 24 ethnic minority characters in the last 20 episodes of the show. Conversely, there is believed to have been just one non-white character in the 89 episodes before the race row.
Of the 24 non-white characters who have appeared in the show following the race row, at least 22 have been cast in a mixed-race relationship with a white actor or actress.
Has it not occurred to the Daily Mail that these characters are not real people, they are being played by actors who just happen not to all be the same colour?
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Old 25-02-2016, 08:33
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He actually jacked it in.
He preferred the theatre to tv work.
I accept that, I just didn't like how he was in one episode, then the next he was "ill" then he was just gone. Couldn't they have just said he transferred because he didn't like it in Midsommer?
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Old 25-02-2016, 11:57
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I accept that, I just didn't like how he was in one episode, then the next he was "ill" then he was just gone. Couldn't they have just said he transferred because he didn't like it in Midsommer?
Actually, they were pretty p***ed with him as they expected a few more series. He decided he just wanted out and left them in limbo. That is what I read somewhere, then again, it could have been a dream
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