And the comedy act of the year goes to....

Seriously though, I hated stuff like this in the big brother forum last year people slagging each other off etc just because of they have a difference of opinion, so lets leave it there

Same difference really - if she'd got 9.5 before for same routine and skated better they could give her 10's. Doesn't mean either performance was near perfect or perfect. If they've given someone else 9.5 and think her's is better they'll give 10's - doesn't mean it's perfect.

Since so much of it is on performance whether that's showmanship or how well they've performed what they've been given and the actual skating content is so minimal it would score nothing in a real skating comp then it's really more on personal preference and so anyone at home can decide they think the judges got it wrong.

Judges in real skating comps get it wrong or disagree totally on who is best depending on their personal preferences so Robin while evidently having a great deal more skating/ice show experience than most is not infallible particularly in such a subjective version of a highly subjective activity.

I can only assume they thought - we must have 3 perfect 10s cos its the final. And it was their last opportunity to do so - deserved or not. Jason let the side down though by only giving Sam 9.5 on his showdance.

In your opinion yeah, but then again who knows what they thought, they could have thought that but I doubt it, is it really that hard to believe that maybe even though you prefer Sam yourself that they thought Laura performed better? Remember they get a different perspective on things, they are there and watching it in the studio from one angle, we watch it at home, edited, on a TV.

Is it OK for me to ask a question, is your subjective view of a subjective activity more subjective than Robin's? Or like some professional judges have you got it wrong?

Any theory that the judges were biased in Laura's favour is destroyed by the judges' comments on her first routine.

And on their Bolero.

It's as subjective as anyone else's view - especially in relation to the performance side and there's so little else in any of the routines.

For the record I liked all 3 finalists and don't think there was much to choose between them. In a show like this does one favour the slightly showier skater or the one with the slighlty more technicality or just go for an overall 'feel' of the piece or whoever had fewest minor mistakes or whose basic skating is slightly better than the others? And the answer is - whatever you like. Just don't expect others to agree with you.

Do you really watch that crap?

That's why I was so surprised by the unity among the judges - given the performance bias of the skate-off I expected there to be more variation between Robin and Jason, at least.

Oh well cos Clare Buckfield and Neil Midgely say it it must be true! blimmin hell dont you have your own minds? i thought laura deserved her 10's, it was a fantastic skate and performance. As for favourtism the judges were so far up Sam's backside it was unbelieveable!
Sam and Brianne were so fake, all this relationship crap and then at the end they say they've made a FRIEND for life? what was with all the sex talk that was rammed in our faces the last 3 months?
Sam was the better skater but Laura was the better all round package (skating, performance, looks etc) and although he won, Laura got the highest score and that can never be taken away from her!

This is a trivial arguement and I don't get the logistics of the arguement at all.

Just as Sam being crowned the Winner with 63% of the vote can never be taken away from him.

i 100% agree like it was amazin bu i dnt tink she deserved 30 nd if she got 30 4 tat then sam should of got it 4 his showcase nd riverdance

this is very true lol

I bet he's peeved he didn't get the 30 though.

I'm an ardent Laura supporter and I'm sure Sam doesn't give a toss. But the bluff on this morning about the judges would have given them straight 10s for the Bolero........honestly!

Agreed I'm sure he's like what the hell, think what actually clinched it for him was the showcase dance as had considerably more wow factor than the other 2. Personally I'm like 'what the hell ?' now as Sam became the winner. Roll on DOI2012.

I'm not saying he would prefer getting the 30 instead of the win, but I just bet he is a little miffed. He wouldn't admit to it though and neither would most of his fans I am sure.

If I'm correct I think yellowlabbie means that Sam would have loved the trophy and a perfect score, that's only natural. But if he could only have one then he's happy with what he got. the trophy. And I think Laura would trade the perfect score for a win.

Spot on Petite Fleur, thank you.

Excuse me I think I am perfectly capable of making up my own mind and I made up my mind that the routine IMO wasn't worthy of a 30. I don't follow the crowd like a little sheep incapable of seeing any errors made by my favourite.

I didn't think it was even worth the high marks it got the first time round either. I was commenting on the fact that other people were commenting the same. I was using them since every Laura fan on here jumps on the fact that if you didn't like it you must hate Laura. I was using them as neutral examples of people who didn't rate it as worth a perfect 30 who aren't posting on here had I quoted people on here it would have been accused of ganging up on poor Laura and it seems the fans have given Clare a hard time for daring to express her opinion that it wasn't perfect and for giving her honest opinion.

You have proven my point that if you don't support Laura and dare to actually say yoy don't then you get grief for it. You moan about Sam being shown favouritism what was the judges begging the public to vote for Laura about then if not favouring her that week it seems stuff like that gets convienently forgotten about when it suits because it makes Laura look more hard done by.

The only reason why the judges was encouraging people to vote for laura was because she was in bottom twice when she didnt deserve as she was one of the best skaters. If Sam was in bottom two twice they would have done the same. so no I dont agree with you the judges werent showing favouritsm towards laura.

No telling the public to vote specifically for someone is IMO showing favouritism towards them. Would you see it as not being favouritism if you were competing against someone and the judges said you must vote for the other person?

Jeff was in the bottom two more than once and wasn't a particularly bad skater I didn't see the judges begging people to vote for him to keep him in over less able skaters. When Sam had his few wobbly weeks the judges weren't encouraging the public to look beyond it and vote for him. The only one they did it for was Laura which shows favouritism towards her.

Personally whether the judges have favourites or not they should not be saying you must vote for a specific person I find it insulting that I should be ordered to vote for someone especially if its someone I don't particularly want to support. The judges should give an overall response of vote for the best performances etc but shouldn't single out any contestant in the way they did with Laura again its not really fair on the others either. If you were in the top three or would how must it feel to hear one being singled out by the judges when you have done just as well but they don't seem to think your worth voting for?

No I wouldnt actually care i know im probably on my own here but I wouldnt care at the end of day having the best skaters there would make me want to be up there with them. Anyway I stick by with what i said Laura was way better than Jeff even though I liked him and it would have been a total sham if she went out against anybody because for me she should have won. The judges was only letting you know that you should vote for Laura and that they didnt want her to go out and I actually agree with them.