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Old 31-03-2011, 13:02
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I know many of you anti taylor fans have always disputed her album sales, even when I have provided proof, but here we have an offical video of her receiving an award in London before last nights show at the O2.

And as they say its 20 million + and this only includes sales of her three studio albums, it dont include sales of the special holiday album she did either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqvKkNorrXs

The guy on the far left is scott borchetta who is the CEO of Big machine and was responsible for giving taylor the record deal without him we may never have had this immense talent bestowed upon us.
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Old 31-03-2011, 13:04
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I know many of you anti taylor fans have always disputed her album sales, even when I have provided proof, but here we have an offical video of her receiving an award in London last night.

And as they say its 20 million + and this only includes sales of her three studio albums, it dont include sales of the special holiday album she did either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqvKkNorrXs

The guy on the far left is scott borchetta who is the CEO of Big machine and was responsible for giving taylor the record deal without him we may never have had this immense talent bestowed upon us.
Who has disputed her album sales??

I have never seen anyone who has said her record sales in the US are anything less than phenomenal.
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Old 31-03-2011, 13:05
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Immense talent? I don't hate Taylor, and I'm willing to give every artist a shot, but there is nothing interesting or unique about her. The public are led to believe that she's the first country singer to ever make it into the charts... Her songwriting is one-dimensional and her voice is very average.

I fail to see how se sells so many albums. I've listened to all of them start to finish and excluding the odd catchy-yet-forgettable track there really is nothing "phenomenal" about them.

However, I do think she made good use of that Kanye West incident which definitely helped her album sales. It threw her into the spotlight, which increased her album sales massively. This then threw her into the Grammy spotlight, and the Grammy's are run by idiots so therefore awarded her album awards that she definitely did not deserve.
Taylor is just an average artist in my eyes.
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Old 31-03-2011, 13:35
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To be fair, the only time I have seen anyone dispute her sales was when geordielady herself made a false claim which was proven wrong so not sure what that first sentence is all about? Good luck to the lass I say. If people want to buy her music good luck to them I say. Oh, and whilst I'm at it, good luck to geordielady as well - what an amazing life you must lead, a scientist yourself and now we find out you are married to a music industry big wig. Good on yer for coming on here to share your insiders knowledge with us, it is genuinely appreciated. Don't forget to pass on my congrats to Taylor next time you meet her.
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Old 31-03-2011, 13:38
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However, I do think she made good use of that Kanye West incident which definitely helped her album sales.
She made no use of that incident at all, she was praised for the way she handled it both on the night and therafter.
But of course if Kayne West is responsible for adding a few million to her bank balance then its all good.

Wests display was one of the worse things I have ever seen a music artist do to another and he fully deserved the slaughtering he received from some of the biggest names in the music industry.

The bloke is a disgrace to the music industry.

And of corse those who dont like Taylor would not like her winning a grammy, the fact is she did and fully deserved as well.
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Old 31-03-2011, 13:42
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She made no use of that incident at all, she was praised for the way she handled it both on the night and therafter.
But of course if Kayne West is responsible for adding a few million to her bank balance then its all good.

Wests display was one of the worse things I have ever seen a music artist do to another and he fully deserved the slaughtering he received from some of the biggest names in the music industry.

The bloke is a disgrace to the music industry.
Well it had to happen at some point. I agree with you
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Old 31-03-2011, 13:52
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She didn't try to milk the Kanye incident but she gained sales and exposure in the rest of the world out of it. It wasn't her doing but she did benefit from it.
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Old 31-03-2011, 13:52
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She made no use of that incident at all, she was praised for the way she handled it both on the night and therafter.
She gave public appearances on American chatshows after it, and even gave a performance at last years VMA awards and said it was her "closure" from the incident. Taylor handled the situation excellently. She managed to milk everything from it without making it look like she did so.

Wests display was one of the worse things I have ever seen a music artist do to another and he fully deserved the slaughtering he received from some of the biggest names in the music industry.
The bloke is a disgrace to the music industry.
I'm not condoning what he did, it was absolutely terrible behaviour, but he's not a disgrace to the music industry, his new album is not bad at all, and I absolutely hate him as an artist and a person.
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Old 31-03-2011, 13:56
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To be fair, the only time I have seen anyone dispute her sales was when geordielady herself made a false claim which was proven wrong so not sure what that first sentence is all about? Good luck to the lass I say. If people want to buy her music good luck to them I say. Oh, and whilst I'm at it, good luck to geordielady as well - what an amazing life you must lead, a scientist yourself and now we find out you are married to a music industry big wig. Good on yer for coming on here to share your insiders knowledge with us, it is genuinely appreciated. Don't forget to pass on my congrats to Taylor next time you meet her.
Many have disputed her album sales and some have backed me up, go look I can even remember a poster here, Anika Hanson backing me up once about her album sales, do you remember that Anika?
And whats all this crap about music bigwigs, your going over the top now, dont you have an adele thread to post in.
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Old 31-03-2011, 14:14
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Immense talent? I don't hate Taylor, and I'm willing to give every artist a shot, but there is nothing interesting or unique about her. The public are led to believe that she's the first country singer to ever make it into the charts... Her songwriting is one-dimensional and her voice is very average.

I fail to see how se sells so many albums. I've listened to all of them start to finish and excluding the odd catchy-yet-forgettable track there really is nothing "phenomenal" about them.

However, I do think she made good use of that Kanye West incident which definitely helped her album sales. It threw her into the spotlight, which increased her album sales massively. This then threw her into the Grammy spotlight, and the Grammy's are run by idiots so therefore awarded her album awards that she definitely did not deserve.
Taylor is just an average artist in my eyes.
Considering the incident happened as she picked up an award at a major ceremony screened worldwide, and beat the likes of Beyoncé, I don't really think she did anything with the Kanye thing.

People forget the fact she wasn't just there for Kanye to attack, she had actually just won.
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Old 31-03-2011, 14:20
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Many have disputed her album sales and some have backed me up, go look I can even remember a poster here, Anika Hanson backing me up once about her album sales, do you remember that Anika?
And whats all this crap about music bigwigs, your going over the top now, dont you have an adele thread to post in.
Yes I do

Well now you have official confirmation no-one can dispute it again.
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Old 31-03-2011, 14:26
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Yes I do

Well now you have official confirmation no-one can dispute it again.
Thank you , I did provide lots of official info before but people were still disbelieving it, would guess they still may continue to disbelive it even now
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Old 31-03-2011, 14:42
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Is that supposed to be good music, she sounds just like thousands of other singers, nothing original imo.
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Old 31-03-2011, 15:06
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The guy on the far left is scott borchetta who is the CEO of Big machine and was responsible for giving taylor the record deal without him we may never have had this immense talent bestowed upon us.
Finally, I have the name of the person I can blame for Taylor Swift...

Well done on the sales, honestly, but she isn't the second coming of music.. She just makes a bit of half-decent music that people like..

But like I say, well done on the 20m sales...
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Old 31-03-2011, 15:27
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Many have disputed her album sales and some have backed me up, go look I can even remember a poster here, Anika Hanson backing me up once about her album sales, do you remember that Anika?
And whats all this crap about music bigwigs, your going over the top now, dont you have an adele thread to post in.

Whilst I really don't wish to carry this on as I'm sure it's very boring for everyone else, I do feel I have to say that you claimed that Taylor was the only artist/act ever to have sales of 4 miilion in 3 consecutive years. When challenged on that claim you actually apologised for getting it wrong as it was 100% incorrect.

I have never ever queried her sales. Maybe professed my incredulity I just can't understand with the amount of albums she sells in the US that popularity album wise hasn't really spread throughout the World. She's young so who knows? But, yes, her sales in the US are beyond amazing. Good enough for you?
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Old 31-03-2011, 15:53
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I'll sleep better at night now knowing this amazing, vital, breathtaking piece of information. Well done Taylor! Your average voice, boring songs and crap faux sickly sweet image despite allegedly bedding every bloke in Hollywood - not to mention Kanye's VMA thing - have helped you shift 20m records. Truly staggering
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Old 31-03-2011, 16:01
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I just can't understand with the amount of albums she sells in the US that popularity album wise hasn't really spread throughout the World. She's young so who knows? But, yes, her sales in the US are beyond amazing. Good enough for you?
Her album sales in the US are only about 65% of her total album sales
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Old 31-03-2011, 16:16
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I just can't understand with the amount of albums she sells in the US that popularity album wise hasn't really spread throughout the World. She's young so who knows? But, yes, her sales in the US are beyond amazing. Good enough for you?
They haven't really marketed her anywhere else. In the US she can release something and it will sell like that because she's popular, she's the new toy the charts have to play with. Elsewhere in the world, like the UK, Taylor relies on her fanbase, and that's something that automatically creates itself, you don't need promotion to have a loyal fanbase.

Her record label probably just think that because she's massive in the US, she doesn't need to be anywhere else. Which, in some respect, is true. Over half of her sales come from the US, so they're just hammering her biggest market.
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Old 31-03-2011, 16:19
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Her record label probably just think that because she's massive in the US, she doesn't need to be anywhere else. Which, in some respect, is true. Over half of her sales come from the US, so they're just hammering her biggest market.
Thats rapidly changing, she has increased her non US sales by almost 25% of her total sales, in a few years time she will be almost as big worldwide as she is in the states, thats when you will really see her album sales explode, 50 Million album sales will be easy in sight in a few years time.
She is also the biggest downloaded artist in the history of music, lots of people do this rather then by full albums.
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Old 31-03-2011, 17:48
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She's also a great role model for young kids aspiring to be in the music industry. I was really impressed when I heard her on the Ken Bruce show , she's so down to earth.
And writing her own songs - she's really got her head screwed on because that's where the big money is and most females go down the cliched co-writer route. She explained to Ken Bruce about why she thought it was really important to write her own songs and how good it made her feel.
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Old 31-03-2011, 17:56
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I've never disputed her sales but that is worldwide sales right? (Meaning that it's about 60% U.S sales and then the rest of the globe?)

Let's not forget one fact that her albums are country pop and they get even more slight pop embellishments when transferred into other countries to appeal to the market and even further cloud over the C word (Country).

All for her for getting good sales and appealing to her target crowd. Personally her lyrical themes knock me sick with co-dependancy issues and the negative image of needing a boyfriend to be happy or being depressed/scorned by your ex when single (of course I know theres a song or two making an exception to this rule). Or talking fairytales like a young little girl (which I presume is her buying crowd majority?)

She doesn't appeal to me at all but does to friends. I've told them to get over the fact I dislike her music.
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Old 31-03-2011, 18:13
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She's also a great role model for young kids aspiring to be in the music industry. I was really impressed when I heard her on the Ken Bruce show , she's so down to earth.
And writing her own songs - she's really got her head screwed on because that's where the big money is and most females go down the cliched co-writer route. She explained to Ken Bruce about why she thought it was really important to write her own songs and how good it made her feel.
As you say she is a perfect role model and is down to earth and intelligent, I have no doubt she will be around a long long time when many of todays chart artists are history.

She has always been writing, that was the problem when she was trying to get a record deal, Some labels wanted her to become a session writer for other country stars rather than an artist in her own right for another year before considering a record contract for her, but she did not want that.
It was only Scott Borchetta who had the faith to know that she could write and sing her own songs as a standalone artist. Some of those bigger labels who could have signed her must be kicking themselves hard now as Taylor will be making big machine a darn lot of money for many, many years to come. Being on a label like big machine also allows her to do what she wants musically, compare this to poor Avril lavigne who is on a big label (RCA) and even though she has sold near on 35 million albums and written many of her own songs still has little control over her music and is bossed around by her label.
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Old 31-03-2011, 18:31
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Thats rapidly changing, she has increased her non US sales by almost 25% of her total sales, in a few years time she will be almost as big worldwide as she is in the states, thats when you will really see her album sales explode, 50 Million album sales will be easy in sight in a few years time.
She is also the biggest downloaded artist in the history of music, lots of people do this rather then by full albums.
Dear lord what's wrong with this woman?:P, please babe, try get a grip!
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Old 31-03-2011, 18:33
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I remember (one) dispute over sales was because you were increasing the figure with each post. It jumped two million, I believe, between a page. Hence; scepticism.

RE: the Kanye incident. She didn't milk it per say, but that VMA performance of 'Innocent' - acting like she was recovering from a major trauma - was cringe worthy and hilarious simultaneously. Very melodramatic.
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Old 31-03-2011, 18:45
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Did she not write a song about the Kanye incident?
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