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Old 03-04-2011, 21:25
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Congratulations are due to the band for their highest chart entry in the UK in an under appreciated genre.Album may be slightly more on the commercial side than other albums but there's still alot of tracks that have a distinctive edge to them - definately a grower.Give it a listen

Sharon den Ardel gave birth to a new son Logan on 31st March - so double congratulations

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/rockalbums
http://www.theofficialcharts.com/albums-chart/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_den_Adel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Within_Temptation

Anybody, like me, would like to see more presence given to Symphonic rock / metal + other associated rock in the media.It has a very strong underground following (maybe not so underground now - onwards & upwards).I know there are already followers on DS
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Old 03-04-2011, 21:58
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I'm glad it made it to number 1 in the Rock Charts and even 23 in the main album charts.

With a bit of promotion by Roadrunner 'Sinéad' (their next single plans don't change) could have a chance of making it into the Top 40 but I doubt Roadrunner will bother. It's more Symphonic-Disco-Rock but that's what gives it a chance, probably their most 'accessible' track.

Sinéad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afackHhZxBI
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:45
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I'm glad it made it to number 1 in the Rock Charts and even 23 in the main album charts.

With a bit of promotion by Roadrunner 'Sinéad' (their next single plans don't change) could have a chance of making it into the Top 40 but I doubt Roadrunner will bother. It's more Symphonic-Disco-Rock but that's what gives it a chance, probably their most 'accessible' track.

Sinéad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afackHhZxBI
I've got mixed feelings about that track - is it planned as a UK single release.I'm not the biggest disco fan to say the least .It has a very simplistic & commercial approach with that high energy sort of disco beat running through it & a catchy chorus .There are also other elements to the song that are pure Within Tempation.It's done so well & Sharon's voice sound's so passionate, as you say, given the right promotion this song could be big in the singles charts - think it will definately be top 10 in the Netherlands.Their first single off the album, Faster, wasn't released in the UK of course.Don't think they've released any singles in the UK before.But with a No.23 in the album charts this definately seems on the cards now.Not sure what direction that would take Within Temptation's music in the future, but think they deserve a bit of commercial mainstream success after the many years they've been at it.They've always been on the melodic side anyway.
Not really bothered about singles really usually but the heavier side of rock definately needs some kind of exposure in the mainstream in whatever deluted form that is.Think fans should bite their tongues & support this release personally - if it is released in the UK of course
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Old 04-04-2011, 08:40
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Symphonic-Disco-Rock
Easily my favourite genre name i've heard in quite some time!

On topic, its interesting that a band from a genre with basically zero mainstream media exposure can do pretty well in terms of sales.

I think this is very much the way of music, the "hits" like the current Adele album are getting bigger, the mainstream market is getting more focussed. The impact on the internet on distribution means that while we will more and more "blockbusters" like Adele dominating with crazy sales, however bands from comparative "niche" genres can reach far bigger audiences than in the past, and I think this sort of situation will become more common, which is good.
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Old 04-04-2011, 08:47
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I'm glad it made it to number 1 in the Rock Charts and even 23 in the main album charts.

With a bit of promotion by Roadrunner 'Sinéad' (their next single plans don't change) could have a chance of making it into the Top 40 but I doubt Roadrunner will bother. It's more Symphonic-Disco-Rock but that's what gives it a chance, probably their most 'accessible' track.

Sinéad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afackHhZxBI
I don't know what the rest of their material sounds like, but its weighs far more on the "disco" side than the rock, it actually sounds like a mash-up of a electro pop track with a rock track, rather than a song in its own right if that makes any sense?

I'm not sure any mainstream success for that track could really be held up as an example of exposure for the heavier side of things, so strong is its pop sensibility.

Not that a pop sensibility is bad thing of course.
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Old 04-04-2011, 09:30
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Originally Posted by Scratchy7929
...Their first single off the album, Faster, wasn't released in the UK of course.Don't think they've released any singles in the UK before...
Faster was released in the UK but as a download only. It's currently 31 in the Rock Singles chart, I think it peaked at 6 but dropped out after a couple of weeks. I don't normally care about singles but it's the only way a band like Within Temptation will get mainstream success in the UK because their songs are normally too heavy for the mainstream.
http://www.theofficialcharts.com/arc...10/2011-02-19/
I don't know what the rest of their material sounds like, but its weighs far more on the "disco" side than the rock, it actually sounds like a mash-up of a electro pop track with a rock track, rather than a song in its own right if that makes any sense?

I'm not sure any mainstream success for that track could really be held up as an example of exposure for the heavier side of things, so strong is its pop sensibility.

Not that a pop sensibility is bad thing of course.
I proably should have gone with Symphonic-Disco-Pop-Rock .

Sinéad is very different to their usual material and even to the rest of the album, although a few other tracks share the electro sound in places.

If Sinéad does manage any success in the UK mainstream charts (which probably won't happen), it won't be direct exposure of the heavier side. It may allow a few people to discover the heavier side, but even if it doesn't on a large scale it will still be good for the Band and also briefly make the charts more interesting.
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Old 04-04-2011, 13:42
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Getting to #23 in the album charts shows that with hard work and perseverence it is still possible to have success in the UK.

Planet Rock have been playing Faster for some time now, which will have certainly helped. As for commercial success in the singles chart, I doubt either Roadrunner or Within Temptation will be that bothered!

As for the album, I really like it, as others have said it is more commercial than their earlier stuff, but that isn't always a bad thing.

I'm certainly looking forward to hearing what the new stuff sounds like live in November!!
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Old 04-04-2011, 15:15
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I think the new album is excellent, it's the sort of rock/metal that would do very well in the mainstream, but of course Radio 1 and their ilk refuse to play it.
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Old 04-04-2011, 16:49
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Yet the BBC actively promote stuff like below.Despite all the attention they have been getting in the UK media they have only got to No.62 in the album charts & their single (which is B listed) has failed to chart as yet.Think people have become tired of the garage rockish / grunge type of sound which has had alot of exposure in the past.Personally this is the type of garage rock that most appeals to me but I don't listen to as much as I did during the Grunge era.Not particularly interested in a revival band.

Yuck - Get Away

Yuck

They have been compared to Dinosaur Jr. who were very much part of the underground Punk / Metal crossover American Indie scene.Dinosaur Jr. did get a little bit of singles success in the 90's when grunge was at it's peak - no.20 ('91).Also an album at No.10 ('93)

Dinosaur Jr.
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No more or less accessable than alot of Within Temptation are.Perhaps a few of their tracks on previous albums get a little too heavy for Radio 1.The majority of the new album comes into the accessible category though.Within Temptation will always be a far more popular band than Yuck will ever be - doesn't make sense to me.
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Old 04-04-2011, 17:11
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I was in Tesco's today and they were selling Rolling Stones and Kasabian,The Who Tshirts so for people saying rock is gone something must be wrong.Like Scratchy7929 says I love Grunge but I think people have got tried of the Art Punk and Nu Garage thing's.Like The Strokes,The Libertens and The Ting Tings and even The Young Knives and other White Stripe,Bloc Party diet bands.And now with Within Temptation getting too number one in the rock charts,what does radio and MTV do snubs it along with NME cause there still creaming themselfs over the Shi*ecennies and Aimless and Shameless.
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Old 05-04-2011, 16:01
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Forgot to mention that Foo Fighters are also A listed with their new single 'Rope' which nobody could argue against is out & out abrasive pop / grunge / metal.One of the heavier songs on their album actually (just listened to their stream).No excuse for radio 1 not to play Within Temptation because they deem them not suitable for radio 1 output.There is no denying the popularity of Foo Fighters, however, unlike some of the other dubious (in popularity stakes) more abrasive stuff they play on Radio 1.
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Old 06-04-2011, 01:08
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Radio 1 recently playlisted Pulled Apart by horses "I punched a lion in the throat"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd4rYB-yt7g

For that i'm willing to forgive a lot of other dodgy playlist choices (even if they do sound a little too much like "test icicles" for comfort sometimes).
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Old 06-04-2011, 21:49
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I'm very much enjoying The Unforgiving - have only listened to it a couple of times right through but already I'm liking it more than THOE, with which I was a little disappointed after the previous two albums.
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Old 18-04-2011, 09:23
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I bought this new album on the strength of repeated listens to 'Faster' on Planet Rock.

I'm afraid I'm a little disappointed on first listen. Faster is the best track on the album. A couple of others come close, but the rest is uninspiring.

I'll be sticking with Nightwish.
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