Actually, this I completely agree with. I think the words 'responsibility' and 'blame' were being substituted in the earlier posts, and they aren't the same!

And where were the spoiler tags for that little lot?!?

Just to add some context to the discussion about the warning thread. The 'spoiler OP' posted a "Quick query..." style thread at 16.20pm. I knew from the username what to expect but had to go inside to alert and took a big spoiler in the face going for the alert button.
No spoiler tags, a blatant question spoiling a forum melting last scene for all to see.

I created a warning thread after that around 16.23.
The spoiler thread was removed around 16.28 but it took longer to establish the person was banned and would not create more. People were good enough to keep the warning thread bumped (many thanks).

Mods closed the warning thread after the person was banned and so no longer necessary, but its still there.

I've thanked the mods for their speedy response and indulgence.

You mean you're confirming it's all true?!!! Why didn't you put your "where were the spoiler tags" request in spoiler tags!!! Why didn't I put my request for you to put your "where were the spoiler tags" request in spoiler tags in spoiler tags???? *bans self*

Be that as it may, I think the whole idea of warning threads is a bad idea, it opens up the floodgates to a whole different set of problems, personal vendettas between FMs could erupt more than normal and it would make the whole forum a thoroughly unpleasant place, I get the feeling that the Mods are currently very indulgent of our ways in the DW forum, I'm not sure that would continue if their patience was tried, as it no doubt would be.

This is the thread I was meaning. For members who may not have been on earlier or hadn't noticed the name, it would have been out of their hands when seeing the spoilers, hence why I said I hope not a lot of people seen it. Or in your case, when someone went to alert the mods.

That was the point of on of my earlier posts. Surely, it would be a time wasting exercise to create multiple threads, which the mods have to remove. Also, the mods probably don't follow each individual thread, so it will take them time and effort to clarify which of the threads is the original offending thread.

Much easier to just get people to comply with the forum rules. The mods have been brilliant (being one of the off topic posters of the Inn, and considering how often I go off topic, I realise that they give us a lot of freedom). For once I will use the majority phrase, most people on here seem to have objected to those two threads, the mods have removed those threads, as such it's not unreasonable that the original poster of those threads was somehow in the wrong.

It should also be borne in mind, that we are not talking about spoiler threads with spoiler boxes. People who read those have only themselves to blame, but in the case of the two threads that we have been discussing for the last few hours, the blame and responsibility lies with the poster who posted them.

Thanks to handsome BB again for reporting the thread and for trying to warn others.

I hope this hasn't dampened Moffat's views of the more enthusiastic fans. Only one silly person said it and so many are angry at them for breaching Who trust (), look at the lengths people are going to on this forum alone to keep is hush! I disagree Moff, fans are very good at protecting Doctor Who.

My work here is done.

I do agree with you that it would be better for everyone to obey the rules, I just don't understand why you think it's the easier option? Human nature tells us this is impossible, otherwise we wouldn't need the mods (or any kind of enforcers).

Good point


Why do I imagine you saying this with a sexy Spanish accent, wearing a eye mask and a swishy coat.

For some reason I thought you were going to link to this!

Well we do agree, which is a good point. My original point was that the responsibility and blame in these cases didn't lie with the people who accidently read the spoilers, but those people who post the spoilers (please read above again that I did not extend this to properly displayed spoilers in spoiler boxes). Whilst I cannot change these people and their motives, I can be annoyed with them and I can engage in a philosophical discussion that they should exercise more responsibility towards other people).

With regards to creating multiple threads and your suggestion on how to deal with it, I think Hammy gave you a perfect answer, the mods would probably not go along with that and the atmosphere and flavour of the forum would change. We would quite rightly lose our freedom. Also, why should we create extra work for the mods, why actually indulge an individual who does not comply to the rules which they had to agree too before they joined the forum. Also, are you saying it's impossible to get people to comply with the rules of the forum. In fact it's not, we had a very disruptive forum member last year, and the person survived 3 or 4 monthes and then got permanently banned. The mods are very switched on.

I'm aware we are not living in a perfect world, no reason not to strive for it though.

Almost as good as mine.

Brilliant BOTH of you. Just stopped laughing.

(Flicks a 'Z' into an unsuspecting chest and gallops.)

Let's put the whole forum in spoiler tags, problem solved....

And then put the spoiler tags in spoiler tags, just to be sure.

He is incredibly precious and gets very hung up about spoilers. Who cares. At least RTD had some fun with fans on the issue.

Does it really matter that a few people have read a few spoilers before an episode was broadcast. Most of the 5 Million or so who watch it won't have.

Well, when something you've been working on for months and shown to no one but a few dozen, is spoiled without your consent, it is quite annoying. And look at the amount of fans themselves who are annoyed WITH Moffat.

But, judging by ridiculous viewing figure you posted, I take it you're a naysayer of the Moffat era... D:

I'm actually quite glad that I've been unwell and didn't see all this.

Anyone that goes out of their way to spoil someone else's enjoyment of a show just because they can is pretty pathetic.

No, I love the Moffatt era. A vast improvement on the RTD bilge. Matt is the best Doctor since Tom IMV.

It's hardly spoiled because a handful of fans in an online community know what is going to happen a week before it is shown.

In that case, see you in a week! I won't be here till after I watch the episode, I haven't been spoiled that much so far, I like it to be a surprise. The clips released by the BBC were a bit too tempting though lol