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Nadia's crying incident
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bigmadmental
05-08-2004
Originally Posted by poppitypop:
“How did it ruin it? They went back to dancing afterwards”

I watched it live. They went back to a very uncomfortable end of song dance, and then that was the end of that. All typical of the winding down after a drunk cries.

Edit: If you watched it live you would have seen Jason, Dan and Shell really happy and almost high. I've not seen Jason that happy since the first few days. After the incident, it was all down. However, that must have been the hang overs kicking in of course.
poppitypop
05-08-2004
Originally Posted by bigmadmental:
“I watched it live. They went back to a very uncomfortable end of song dance, and then that was the end of that. All typical of the winding down after a drunk cries.”

But that was because BB finished the song. They did not play another for a while.
BM85
05-08-2004
I think it has hit her her "big secret" will be out to the others soon, she will finally have to face reality after 10 weeks of being behind closed doors.
Amazon
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by poppitypop:
“It was a spare of the moment cry. Unfortunately these things do happen at the most inopportune moments.
Yes it was an embarrassing moment for her, but many of us are not hardened and cannot control our emotions.”

Not one to pedantic but "It was a spare of the moment cry."... what f**k is that?

Do you mean "spur of the moment"
Amazon
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by poppitypop:
“Of course there is selective editing. They cannot show the whole of the last 24hrs.”

LMAO
Pentonville
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by bigmadmental:
“cheers. I'm not a total heartless b'stard. I have just see my fair share of emotional drunks.”

And maybe they had a problem but you were being to heartless to see or care.

devoid of emotion, we are like stone. It's just that some of us are caring people not heartless ***** like Jason and his 18 going on 30 ladish brain dead uncaring real man status. :yawn:
bigmadmental
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by Pentonville:
“And maybe they had a problem but you were being to heartless to see or care.

devoid of emotion, we are like stone. It's just that some of us are caring people not heartless ***** like Jason and his 18 going on 30 ladish brain dead uncaring real man status. :yawn:”

So are you being heartless calling Jason a **** cause he goes off on his own to be emotional?

You are missing my point. There is nothing worse than someone who is drunk having a public display of emotion. It can ruin a night, especially if your not really with that person. If Shell, Jason or Dan did the exact same would you have the same reaction? Methinks not.
cruella de vile
06-08-2004
I think most of the housemates thought Stu was fav to win and it was only when Nadia realised that he had gone, and that she was still there that it dawned on her that she had possibly been accepted by the gpb, which is why she is in the house afterall, for acceptance. I reckon that is why she got so upset.
Snozzwangler
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by poppitypop:
“We have had claims from people here that Nadia had an angry look on her face when they thought that Stuart had won. Then there were claims that she cried because Stuart had won.

Well from tonights show it was clear about what happened. When it was suggested that Stuart had won Nadia was clearly seen clapping and cheering with Shell. It was later when they found out he was evicted when she had the strange look on her face.
The crying came even later than that when she was dancing to her song and she got emotional because she realised she was in the final for Friday. She then said something along the lines of "You guys do not understand what this means to me its my dream come true".
It was an emotional moment for her. I saw nothing sinister.”


Hear Hear Poppity, ever the voice of reason! I stand up to be counted in your corner!
voodoosmiller
06-08-2004
I think you'll find that Nadia had a face like well wacked arse as she lay on the sofa's. She was NOT HAPPY.

Did nobody hear her patronising request to Jason to keep repeating that Stuart had been evicted.

"Wod dit day say ? Naw...wod dit day say ? Wod dit day say EZACTLY !?!"

She was a bit more chipper after Jason had repeated it about 4 times.

She's a Class A Drama Queen.
poppitypop
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by voodoosmiller:
“I think you'll find that Nadia had a face like well wacked arse as she lay on the sofa's. She was NOT HAPPY.

Did nobody hear her patronising request to Jason to keep repeating that Stuart had been evicted.

"Wod dit day say ? Naw...wod dit day say ? Wod dit day say EZACTLY !?!"

She was a bit more chipper after Jason had repeated it about 4 times.

She's a Class A Drama Queen.”

Yes she had a face like a slapped arse when they had found out he had been evicted - not when they thought he had won.
Muggsy
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by voodoosmiller:
“She's a Class A Drama Queen.”

EZACTLY! And that's why I want her to win.
cruella de vile
06-08-2004
Do you not think it is possible she had a face like a "wacked arse" because she was sad that Stu had gone ??
billabong
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by poppitypop:
“Yes she had a face like a slapped arse when they had found out he had been evicted - not when they thought he had won.”

she also had that face on before she knew. Why, i don't know.
Cornchips
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by poppitypop:
“We have had claims from people here that Nadia had an angry look on her face when they thought that Stuart had won. Then there were claims that she cried because Stuart had won.

Well from tonights show it was clear about what happened. When it was suggested that Stuart had won Nadia was clearly seen clapping and cheering with Shell. It was later when they found out he was evicted when she had the strange look on her face.
The crying came even later than that when she was dancing to her song and she got emotional because she realised she was in the final for Friday. She then said something along the lines of "You guys do not understand what this means to me its my dream come true".
It was an emotional moment for her. I saw nothing sinister.”

You of course were watching the edited highlights. I was watching the live streaming and Nadia had a real face on her when she thought Stuart had won. the crying happened much later and was seperate incident to the initial reactions to the thought of Stuart winning.
poppitypop
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by Cornchips:
“You of course were watching the edited highlights. I was watching the live streaming and Nadia had a real face on her when she thought Stuart had won. the crying happened much later and was seperate incident to the initial reactions to the thought of Stuart winning.”

Yes and I watched the live show the night before aswell.
andy1973
06-08-2004
Very much agree with original poster. Tears of Joy. To win cherry on the cake.

Say it with a vote. Nadia all the way!!!
jimdan
06-08-2004
Cannot understand why people on this forum confuse events.

There were 2 distinct incidents, the first when they were all trying to work out what had happened to Stu, and the second much later when Nadia appeared to break down during the later dance an hour later.

In the first incident, having watched on E4, Nadia is clearly seen "not being happy" when the popular opinion among the group was that Stu had won. This was evidently edited out of the show to give the impression that they were all just confused. They were confused and emotions ran both ways for all of them during that time, but there is an abiding memory of Nadia being very stoney faced at the exact time Jason, Shell and Dan were jubulent that Stu had won. This was a case of "fine" editing and a truer picture was seen by E4 viewers. This particular clip was less than a minute long.

In the second incident, Nadia was clearly seen to break down, an event that was not edited at all. The sequence is exactly the same as in the E4 sequence. Whatever was in Nadi'a mind regarding the evenings events, her own "acceptance" or the effect of the song, it is clear that she was tearful after suffering a roller coaster of emotion that night. This was genuine on Nadia's part.

I do not support Nadia and dont like her at all, but I have tried to relate events as they happened both on E4 and the highlights show.

When editing takes place, C4 call the shots and may decide to show a whole sequence or a clipped version due to time constraints. Either is fair enough. But when they decide to "fine" edit to remove facial expressions and short sentences, then they are guilty of manipulation.

This is not the first time C4 have used fine editing, with many sequences which, if shown their entirity, would have been beneficial to another housemate.

On balance, a lot of people have seen this "fine" editing in BB5 to have benefitted Nadia the most.
Daxley
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by andy1973:
“Very much agree with original poster. Tears of Joy. To win cherry on the cake.

Say it with a vote. Nadia all the way!!!”

Hear, Hear! Nadia all the way, for sure. Just put yourself in her position...obviously accepted by the public to a great degree to still be in the house. Also, the reality that her hms have accepted her as a woman - the supreme test in her eyes. The fact that 'all will be revealed' tonight will take second place to the achievement she has made - and I don't think for one minute that the rest of the remaining hms will think any less of her. Indeed, I feel they will be so proud of her and let her talk about her time before entering the house (if she wants to). I have voted for Shell, Dan and, of course Nadia (three times) but the other two surely deserve our votes. Feel sorry for Jason and as said above, perhaps if he'd let his hard-man persona drop in the earlier stages he might just have stood a chance of coming first or second. I hope today's revelation about his mother doesn't affect the voting tonight, but he has good times ahead of him anyway, particularly his wish being granted to meet his real mum.
Good luck to them all - best entertaining BB to date. How can next year's top this one?
backdoor_uk
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by DryHumper:
“Not that clear actually, she looked miserable when Shell was saying Stuart had won, but tonight they showed Shells face at that moment instead. t”

What's so difficult to understand about this all?

For weeks since she first heard booing of evicted housemates she has been suffering sleep disturbances because of the stress of worrying about what will happen when she goes? Will she get booed/insulted/devalued because she is a transsexual? Will she be accepted?

When they heard Stuart being cheered they all at first thought he had won. Suddenly she had to face leaving the house still not knowing whether she is accepted or not. Then they found out that Stuart had been evicted. Then Nadia realized that if Stuart got such a fabulous reception whenever she comes she is likely to get one too. The relief must have been astounding to her.

Hey, under those circumstance I think I would have cried!

- Chris
gladys
06-08-2004
As throughout history, we all see things differently.

I am still convinced that Nadia's stony face is due to her thinking 'what are these assholes on about? of course stuart hasn't won it is only wednesday. why are the british so stupid or is it just confuse the foreigner time?'.

On the other hand the 'Stu has won' comments from the other three were not sincerely meant but purely served to mask their happy looks when they realised he was evicted.
add1234
06-08-2004
She has u all under her thumb. A great great actress and this is why i now would not mind seeing her win!!

We have seen the real Nadia over the weeks and her acts!! Its great to see someone who can take the general public and twist them round her finger
carolemillie
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by jimdan:
“Cannot understand why people on this forum confuse events.

There were 2 distinct incidents, the first when they were all trying to work out what had happened to Stu, and the second much later when Nadia appeared to break down during the later dance an hour later.

In the first incident, having watched on E4, Nadia is clearly seen "not being happy" when the popular opinion among the group was that Stu had won. This was evidently edited out of the show to give the impression that they were all just confused. They were confused and emotions ran both ways for all of them during that time, but there is an abiding memory of Nadia being very stoney faced at the exact time Jason, Shell and Dan were jubulent that Stu had won. This was a case of "fine" editing and a truer picture was seen by E4 viewers. This particular clip was less than a minute long.

In the second incident, Nadia was clearly seen to break down, an event that was not edited at all. The sequence is exactly the same as in the E4 sequence. Whatever was in Nadi'a mind regarding the evenings events, her own "acceptance" or the effect of the song, it is clear that she was tearful after suffering a roller coaster of emotion that night. This was genuine on Nadia's part.

I do not support Nadia and dont like her at all, but I have tried to relate events as they happened both on E4 and the highlights show.

When editing takes place, C4 call the shots and may decide to show a whole sequence or a clipped version due to time constraints. Either is fair enough. But when they decide to "fine" edit to remove facial expressions and short sentences, then they are guilty of manipulation.

This is not the first time C4 have used fine editing, with many sequences which, if shown their entirity, would have been beneficial to another housemate.

On balance, a lot of people have seen this "fine" editing in BB5 to have benefitted Nadia the most.”


Was sitting with blank expression and blanker brain trying to post a message on the scowling/crying thing. Read your post and it says it all perfectly. Just want to add that I think Jason (who I loathed at the start) is the most honest HM by a mile and would be genuinely overwhelmed if he won. Sadly I don't think it will happen.
ggm1903
06-08-2004
Nothing like a grown man crying.
CRYBAAAA
06-08-2004
Yeah She Is 1 Yap
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