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Nadia's crying incident
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BeatJunkie
06-08-2004
What a synical bunch you are. I am willing to bet these claims of Nadia being a 'fake' cry and all the rest of it are last ditch attempts to try and harm her chances of winning.

I thought it was a genuine emotional moment and I thought it was an amazing example of what a truly life changing experience Big Brother can be for some of it's contestants. The feelings of acceptance Nadia must be feeling after a lifetime of rejection and ridicule must be mind blowing for her. I'm sure that in her situation, most people would be emotional.

Plus, it didn't ruin the party at all. She apologised, and soon went off to compose herself alone without making a fuss. She came back and it was like it never happened. If this is the best you've got to go against Nadia, then you better try a little harder.

Tick Tock Anti-Nadia Protesters, phone lines close in a matter of hours
CRYBAAAA
06-08-2004
Yeah she has no balls not even telling them that
she has had a sex change is she afraid that they might not like her ?
Satan's Dog
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by backdoor_uk:
“For weeks since she first heard booing of evicted housemates she has been suffering sleep disturbances because of the stress of worrying about what will happen when she goes? Will she get booed/insulted/devalued because she is a transsexual? Will she be accepted?
”


so whats she doing on BB in thefirst place then. someone so insecure about"Aceptence' choose to go on TV game show then canot sleep with worry about consquences. ah what a shame lets evryone vote for nadia then bec life is tough for her.

i do not lik e nadia one bit but have no problem if she look sad if she think stewart is winner. prize money i think maybe something like 70,000 pound, i think if i last to final week and get close to winning money then think some else get it, then i wil look sad as well. some one like shell jumping up and down bec stewart win is action of some one mental or some one puting on show for camera. really they all want th emoney even dan who claim he will "walk better start soon dan not long to go". they are all fakes except jason
Jumpy
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by coffeeaddict:
“And just to think...if Shell had cried, she'd be a phoney cry-baby.”

That is what I was thinking....serious case of double standards.
BeatJunkie
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by Jumpy:
“That is what I was thinking....serious case of double standards.”

How can it be double standards, the two are in TOTALLY different situations. This sign of acceptance means more to Nadia than any housemate past or present, and more than most of us can even imagine.

Y'all are sooooooo synical, why can't people accept Nadia's sign of emotion was genuine. If it were fake it would be obvious, and if Shell had behaved in a simmilar way it would be obviously fake most likely b.c that's the way she has been most of the time in the house IMO.
CRYBAAAA
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by BeatJunkie:
“How can it be double standards, the two are in TOTALLY different situations. This sign of acceptance means more to Nadia than any housemate past or present, and more than most of us can even imagine.

Y'all are sooooooo synical, why can't people accept Nadia's sign of emotion was genuine. If it were fake it would be obvious, and if Shell had behaved in a simmilar way it would be obviously fake most likely b.c that's the way she has been most of the time in the house IMO.”


Yes i think was genuine but i dont think anyone cares
if she was or not she has lots of enemies and thats preey cool

Jason to WIN
Jumpy
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by BeatJunkie:
“How can it be double standards, the two are in TOTALLY different situations. This sign of acceptance means more to Nadia than any housemate past or present, and more than most of us can even imagine.

Y'all are sooooooo synical, why can't people accept Nadia's sign of emotion was genuine. If it were fake it would be obvious, and if Shell had behaved in a simmilar way it would be obviously fake most likely b.c that's the way she has been most of the time in the house IMO.”

I am not cynical. I actually thought her tears were genuine and felt for the girl!

What I am saying if Shell had started to be emotional everyone would have said she was attention seeking. Sure she hasn't had a op to change her gender but she wants to be accepted for who she is as much as everyone else.
homer911
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by BeatJunkie:
“How can it be double standards, the two are in TOTALLY different situations. This sign of acceptance means more to Nadia than any housemate past or present, and more than most of us can even imagine.

Y'all are sooooooo synical, why can't people accept Nadia's sign of emotion was genuine. If it were fake it would be obvious, and if Shell had behaved in a simmilar way it would be obviously fake most likely b.c that's the way she has been most of the time in the house IMO.”

So why should she get the sympathy vote because of it. michelle had personal problems with her weight which may have been the reason she acted the way she did with stuart as she probably has been insecure for a long time becuase of her weight.

yes nadia has gone through something that many would not go through but that does make her acceptance any different to anyone else it just because of it. jason being accepted could mean just as much to him as it does to nadia so she should not be singled out for special treatment because of it.
Stewing
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by bigmadmental:
“She could have gone to the toilet and have a private moment instead of ruining the party for everyone. There is nothing like a crying drunk to ruin a party.”

Exactly...camera playing..again..it is ALL she has done since she walked in there..and why when Shell cries does everyone get all heavy and rude bt Nadia it is aaw shame...
Gawd how I loathe her..... she can win but she will be forgotten in 5 nanoseconds...what has she to offer..? Bugger all.She is a self absorbed pain ...
GoldenFanjita
06-08-2004
I think he was just upset about something.
BeatJunkie
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by homer911:
“So why should she get the sympathy vote because of it. michelle had personal problems with her weight which may have been the reason she acted the way she did with stuart as she probably has been insecure for a long time becuase of her weight.

yes nadia has gone through something that many would not go through but that does make her acceptance any different to anyone else it just because of it. jason being accepted could mean just as much to him as it does to nadia so she should not be singled out for special treatment because of it.”

Who sad anything about voting for Nadia based on sympathy? Certainly not me. I was just trying to explain why Nadia might have been crying on Wednesday night, and trying to defend her again [imo] false claims of her tears being fake.

I have voted for Nadia because she has made me laugh, entertained me, generally been a cracking housemate trhoughout this year. I also feel she is most worthy of this year's title as winner. I just want to see her win, I like her alot. It's not something anyone has to explain, why they like someone, you just do or you don't. I get a great vibe from her I and want her to win.

No sympathy voting here, although I am not suggesting it's not going on. But then again, why people vote for whoever they vote for is there decision. Who is to say one reason is any more valid than another. Now that's stupid.
backdoor_uk
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by Satan's Dog:
“so whats she doing on BB in thefirst place then. someone so insecure about"Aceptence' choose to go on TV game show then canot sleep with worry about consquences.”

Sometimes in life you just have to take a big risk. Nadia did that by coming on BB. You have to admire her courage!

- Chris
delish
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by poppitypop:
“It was a spare of the moment cry. Unfortunately these things do happen at the most inopportune moments.
Yes it was an embarrassing moment for her, but many of us are not hardened and cannot control our emotions.”

As soft as I am it atual made me well up!!
Bless her heart. It must be so emotional for her. She will be getting my vote.
Baggers
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by poppitypop:
“We have had claims from people here that Nadia had an angry look on her face when they thought that Stuart had won. Then there were claims that she cried because Stuart had won.

Well from tonights show it was clear about what happened. When it was suggested that Stuart had won Nadia was clearly seen clapping and cheering with Shell. It was later when they found out he was evicted when she had the strange look on her face.
The crying came even later than that when she was dancing to her song and she got emotional because she realised she was in the final for Friday. She then said something along the lines of "You guys do not understand what this means to me its my dream come true".
It was an emotional moment for her. I saw nothing sinister.”

good post - the one thing you forgot, was that when they found our Stu was evicted she said very quietly "we didn't get to say goodbye" and that was when her mood and face dropped

clearly she feels genuinley fond of young Stu and it upset her that they didn't get to send him off properly
Baggers
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by Amazon:
“Not one to pedantic but "It was a spare of the moment cry."... what f**k is that?

Do you mean "spur of the moment" ”


likewise - but did you mean "not one to BE pedantic but . . ."
Jumpy
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by homer911:
“So why should she get the sympathy vote because of it. michelle had personal problems with her weight which may have been the reason she acted the way she did with stuart as she probably has been insecure for a long time becuase of her weight.

yes nadia has gone through something that many would not go through but that does make her acceptance any different to anyone else it just because of it. jason being accepted could mean just as much to him as it does to nadia so she should not be singled out for special treatment because of it.”

That was the point I was trying to make. Everyone wants to be accepted for very different reasons. Just because she had a sex change does not make her reason for acceptance any more or any less valid. She could be playing up to the cameras, I don't think so personally. But let's be honest, if Shell cried in that situation there would be uproar, very biased imo. I genuinly believe she wasn't playing up to the cameras. By going to the toilet to cry would make no difference as there is a camera in there.
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