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Old 16-04-2011, 23:25
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I reckon the rating for BGT will be one of the more eagerly awaited this year. Cowelless, will it be rudderless? Judges though mean less on BGT-its more inclined towards the ridiculous oddities that turn up-the judges assume a god like status on XF, its not the same here.
I will be surprised if BGT is sub 10 million. The BBC's line up is built like a house of cards, and the merest breath of wind is enough to knock it of its perch and BGT is like a typhoon. Its very difficult to deal with 90 minutes of blockbuster though I think the second episode rating of BGT will give us a clearer indication of where the reality bandwagon stands.
As for SYTYCD, surely its only dance die hards that are going to follow it. Its about as far removed from SCD as its possible to be, trying to find an audience that isnt there, and without an elimination who is going to bother? Im sure the Daily Mail will be watching the figures closely.
I saw enough of SIYC to know I wont be tuning in again, but its far more Saturday night than SYTYCD appears to be-the latter I always get the feeling I should have revised before watching.

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Old 16-04-2011, 23:44
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New thread!

Britain's Got Talent didn't appear rudderless from the first episode - certainly the panel appeared to be improved. Talent wise it was weak but as long as there are 10 reasonable acts there the final should be ok.
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Old 16-04-2011, 23:49
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Britain's Got Talent didn't appear rudderless from the first episode - certainly the panel appeared to be improved. Talent wise it was weak but as long as there are 10 reasonable acts there the final should be ok.
The talent was very weak in the first episodes of both BGT and The X Factor last year before picking up as the auditions went on so that shouldn't be a problem. In fact, only one contestant from last year's X Factor launch made the final 16 and that was Katie Wassiel, so it should improve. The judges were great though so even though the talent was weak I still really enjoyed it.
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Old 16-04-2011, 23:55
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Does anyone else think in steed of just calling it The Ratings Thread (Part 19) they could have one for each month in steed?

Or would this not work?

So it could be closed at the end of May.
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Old 16-04-2011, 23:55
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The talent was very weak in the first episodes of both BGT and The X Factor last year before picking up as the auditions went on so that shouldn't be a problem. In fact, only one contestant from last year's X Factor launch made the final 16 and that was Katie Wassiel, so it should improve. The judges were great though so even though the talent was weak I still really enjoyed it.
Yes, with the Syco shows the launch always seems to be reasonably weak then picks up. I think tonight was more about establishing the new panel - for me, that worked.
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Old 16-04-2011, 23:57
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We seem to have been missing our archive for the last couple of parts which is always really useful for hunting out old ratings. So thought I'd make myself useful with a bit of housekeeping.

- Part 1 (January 2007 to April 2008)
- Part 2 (April 2008 to October 2008)
- Part 3 (October 2008 to August 2009) unavailable to read
- Part 4 (August 2009 to October 2009)
- Part 5 (October 2009 to December 2009)
- Part 6 (December 2009 to February 2010)
- Part 7 (February 2010 to March 2010)
- Part 8 (March 2010 to May 2010)
- Part 9 (May 2010 to June 2010)
- Part 10 (June 2010 to August 2010)
- Part 11 (August 2010 to September 2010)
- Part 12 (September 2010 to October 2010)
- Part 13 (October 2010 to November 2010)
- Part 14 (November 2010 to December 2010)
- Part 15 (December 2010 to January 2011)
- Part 16 (January 2011 to February 2011)
- Part 17 (February 2011 to March 2011)
- Part 18 (March 2011 to April 2011)
- Part 19 - this is it
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We seem to have been missing our archive for the last couple of parts which is always really useful for hunting out old ratings. So thought I'd make myself useful with a bit of housekeeping.

- Part 1 (January 2007 to April 2008)
- Part 2 (April 2008 to October 2008)
- Part 3 (October 2008 to August 2009) unavailable to read
- Part 4 (August 2009 to October 2009)
- Part 5 (October 2009 to December 2009)
- Part 6 (December 2009 to February 2010)
- Part 7 (February 2010 to March 2010)
- Part 8 (March 2010 to May 2010)
- Part 9 (May 2010 to June 2010)
- Part 10 (June 2010 to August 2010)
- Part 11 (August 2010 to September 2010)
- Part 12 (September 2010 to October 2010)
- Part 13 (October 2010 to November 2010)
- Part 14 (November 2010 to December 2010)
- Part 15 (December 2010 to January 2011)
- Part 16 (January 2011 to February 2011)
- Part 17 (February 2011 to March 2011)
- Part 18 (March 2011 to April 2011)
- Part 19 - this is it
Very handy
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Old 17-04-2011, 00:10
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Yes, with the Syco shows the launch always seems to be reasonably weak then picks up. I think tonight was more about establishing the new panel - for me, that worked.
Yeah it was about putting the panel in place. It worked for me too and I don't think there's much need to bring Simon back for the lives (unless ratings fall drastically). I can't see him returning next year if things continue as well as tonight. Whether The X Factor would do so well without him or not is another matter, however...

We seem to have been missing our archive for the last couple of parts which is always really useful for hunting out old ratings. So thought I'd make myself useful with a bit of housekeeping.
Thanks a lot for this, very helpful.

I'm sure we've had this discussion in the past but it's irritating that the biggest part of the overall ratings thread is unable to read.
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Old 17-04-2011, 00:24
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We seem to have been missing our archive for the last couple of parts which is always really useful for hunting out old ratings. So thought I'd make myself useful with a bit of housekeeping.

- Part 1 (January 2007 to April 2008)
- Part 2 (April 2008 to October 2008)
- Part 3 (October 2008 to August 2009) unavailable to read
- Part 4 (August 2009 to October 2009)
- Part 5 (October 2009 to December 2009)
- Part 6 (December 2009 to February 2010)
- Part 7 (February 2010 to March 2010)
- Part 8 (March 2010 to May 2010)
- Part 9 (May 2010 to June 2010)
- Part 10 (June 2010 to August 2010)
- Part 11 (August 2010 to September 2010)
- Part 12 (September 2010 to October 2010)
- Part 13 (October 2010 to November 2010)
- Part 14 (November 2010 to December 2010)
- Part 15 (December 2010 to January 2011)
- Part 16 (January 2011 to February 2011)
- Part 17 (February 2011 to March 2011)
- Part 18 (March 2011 to April 2011)
- Part 19 - this is it
Thanks for that, it's very good to have on the front page.
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Old 17-04-2011, 00:48
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The Mirror saying that Kimberley Walsh is more than likely going to be the new host of the Xtra Factor - hopefully based on some form of presenting talent rather than just being one of Cheryl Cole's mates.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/tv/ne...medium=twitter

Also XF related Peter Fincham has told the Mirror that Cowell will not be a 'weekly judge' on this years show.
We have been in constant negotiations with Simon about ways in which we can move things forward and help the X Factor evolve.

We have been aware that his on-screen involvement in this series will not be as great as previous years for months now. It is something that we are completely comfortable with.

We are talking to him about ways he can have an on-screen presence later in the show. He will not be a weekly judge, but he will be an enormous presence backstage as always.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/...5875-23066483/
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Old 17-04-2011, 01:31
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Someone help me out here, im scared to ask ths in the sports forum

You have two Manchester sports teams, playing in the same game, yet they play the game in London? why not save everyone, teams & fans the cost of the petrol, and play it in Manchester? fans can come to the stadinums on their bikes.

I dont really get football.
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Old 17-04-2011, 01:44
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Someone help me out here, im scared to ask ths in the sports forum

You have two Manchester sports teams, playing in the same game, yet they play the game in London? why not save everyone, teams & fans the cost of the petrol, and play it in Manchester? fans can come to the stadinums on their bikes.

I dont really get football.
Money. The FA overspent on the new Wembley so now they need to make as much money on it as possble to make a profit.

It changed a few years ago, after the new Wembley opened. Previously FA Cup Semi Finals were played at another neutral venue, and just the final at was played at Wembley.
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Old 17-04-2011, 01:44
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You also have another two north west teams playing at Wembley tomorrow.

It's all about the FA paying for Wembley Stadium. Before it reopened semi-finals were played at neutral stadiums.

At least playing at Wembley today meant that the Man U fans were travelling to a stadium near to where they live.
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Old 17-04-2011, 01:46
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You also have another two north west teams playing at Wembley tomorrow.

It's all about the FA paying for Wembley Stadium. Before it reopened semi-finals were played at neutral stadiums.

At least playing at Wembley today meant that the Man U fans were travelling to a stadium near to where they live.
I doubt. When I visited Old Trafford for a match there was an announcement for the Bristol supporters branch.

They soon bettered that though, by asking for the Tokyo branch!
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Old 17-04-2011, 01:50
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Money. The FA overspent on the new Wembley so now they need to make as much money on it as possble to make a profit.

It changed a few years ago, after the new Wembley opened. Previously FA Cup Semi Finals were played at another neutral venue, and just the final at was played at Wembley.
wasnt that like in 2000?

playing somewhere neutral, maybe they could have played at Leciester, I think they have a football team, thats closer to Manchester than London.
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Old 17-04-2011, 02:14
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wasnt that like in 2000?

playing somewhere neutral, maybe they could have played at Leciester, I think they have a football team, thats closer to Manchester than London.
Yes, the semi finals were at neutral venues in 2000. The old Wembley shut in September 2000 after an England v Germany World Cup qualifier. It opened again in 2007; I think that's when the FA Cup semi finals started to be played there.

Leicester have a nice stadium but it's slightly on the small side for an all Manchester derby. If they were to have it away from Manchester they'd probably go for Birmingham (Villa Park) which often held FA Cup semi finals before they all went to Wembley.
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Old 17-04-2011, 02:17
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Would I be right in thinking that the Millenium Stadinum opened in 2000, in Cardiff? I know a few Doctor Who episodes have been filmed there.

When you think about it, it was very smart of them to know to build it, years before Doctor Who was bought back.
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Old 17-04-2011, 02:21
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Would I be right in thinking that the Millenium Stadinum opened in 2000, in Cardiff? I know a few Doctor Who episodes have been filmed there.

When you think about it, it was very smart of them to know to build it, years before Doctor Who was bought back.
It opened in 1999. When Wembley shut the FA Cup/Carling Cup/Play Off finals moved to the Millennium Stadium while England played their internationlas at club grounds - I don't think the FA expected it to take so long to build Wembley though!

I think when Doctor Who looked around for a suitable venue the Millennium Stadium stood out. You never know, if it wasn't for that stadium the programme may have it's base somewhere else.
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I think when Doctor Who looked around for a suitable venue the Millennium Stadium stood out. You never know, if it wasn't for that stadium the programme may have it's base somewhere else.
I struggle to recall the point of Cardiff before Doctor Who came along.
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Old 17-04-2011, 08:02
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I struggle to recall the point of Cardiff before Doctor Who came along.
The BBC despatched Dr Who to Cardiff as part of its policy of increasing programme making in the regions - it was nothing to do with the Millennium Stadium.You might as well say moving Casualty from Bristol to Cardiff shortly is because of the Millennium Stadium too, or sending The Weakest Link to Glasgow is because of Hampden.The BBC has a huge new drama complex with 170,000 square feet of studio space in Cardiff
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Old 17-04-2011, 09:32
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Overnights are in:

- Britain's Got Talent returned with 9.95m (40.6%) , +1: 495k (2.2%)
- Sing if You Can began with over 5m
- FA Cup peaked with over 10m

Posting a roundup soon...
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Old 17-04-2011, 09:37
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Overnights are in:

- Britain's Got Talent returned with 9.95m (40.6%) , +1: 495k (2.2%)
- Sing if You Can began with over 5m
- FA Cup peaked with over 10m

Posting a roundup soon...
Big drop from last years BGT launch- I'm glad hopefully this will make Cowell reconsider his role on X Factor.
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Old 17-04-2011, 09:41
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Saturday 16th April Overnights
BBC One
17:40- The Impressions Show: 1.23m (7.3%)
18:10- Eurovision: Your Country Needs Blue: 2.01m (10.5%)
19:10- So You Think You Can Dance Live: 3.63m (18.0%)
20:10- The National Lottery: Secret Fortune: 3.71m (15.6%)
21:00- Casualty: 4.21m (16.9%)
21:50- Live at the Apollo: 3.12m (14.3%)

BBC Two
19:00- Live Snooker: The World Championships: 969k (4.9%)
19:50- Elizabeth Taylor: A Tribute: 2.00m (8.9%)
20:50- Timewatch: In Shackleton's Footsteps: 1.16m (4.7%)
21:50- Frank Skinner's Opinionated: 903k (4.2%)

ITV1
16:40- Live FA Cup Football: 6.40m (36.6%) , +1: 95k
* peak: 10.06m (49.8%) at 19:05
19:20- Sing If You Can: 5.33m (26.0%) , +1: 140k
20:20- Britain's Got Talent: 9.95m (40.5%) , +1: 495k
* peak (exc +1): 10.95m (43.4%) at 21:30
* peak (inc +1): 11.58m (45.9%)

21:50- Piers Morgan's Life Stories: 4.13m (20.0%) , +1: 249k

Channel 4
19:00- River Cottage Every Day: 1.26m (6.3%) , +1: 103k
20:00- The Day after Tomorrow: 1.44m (6.2%) , +1: 289k

Channel 5
18:55- NCIS: 813k (4.1%)
19:50- CSI: Grissom's Greatest: 810k (3.6%)
20:50- CSI: Miami: 630k (2.5%)
21:50- CSI: NY: 1.64m (8.0%)

ITV2
21:50- Britain's Got More Talent: 877k (4.2%) , +1: 219k

Britain's Got Talent - Launch Overnights
2007 - 4.9m (22.9%)
2008 - 8.8m (37.0%)
2009 - 10.3m (45%)
2010 - 10.6m (44.0%)

Primetime Shares
ITV1: 30.9%
BBC One: 16.4%

BBC1 and ITV1 Breakdown
Code:
19:00	2,816.70	9,735.80
19:05	2,694.70	10,063.20
19:10	2,704.40	8,926.00
19:15	3,329.30	6,478.30
19:20	3,521.10	5,838.40
19:25	3,570.40	4,984.60
19:30	3,543.30	5,120.60
19:35	3,627.60	4,971.30
19:40	3,643.10	4,812.00
19:45	3,672.00	4,995.70
19:50	3,985.00	4,577.60
19:55	3,887.20	5,039.10
20:00	4,183.40	5,486.90
20:05	3,865.90	5,696.10
20:10	3,236.00	6,231.90
20:15	3,723.60	6,215.40
20:20	3,543.30	8,272.00
20:25	3,396.90	9,227.80
20:30	3,436.70	9,114.60
20:35	3,559.20	8,864.40
20:40	3,454.80	10,188.00
20:45	3,884.00	9,535.70
20:50	4,439.80	9,200.10
20:55	4,429.10	10,726.00
21:00	3,988.40	10,295.00
21:05	4,109.30	9,839.90
21:10	4,108.80	10,835.00
21:15	4,161.10	10,896.80
21:20	4,360.80	9,432.70
21:25	4,224.90	10,856.60
21:30	4,203.30	10,947.40
21:35	4,274.50	9,684.10
21:40	4,262.00	10,737.00
21:45	4,379.70	10,389.60
21:50	3,071.00	5,181.60
21:55	2,843.50	4,685.80
22:00	3,062.10	4,486.70
22:05	3,046.90	3,870.20
22:10	3,200.60	4,187.30
22:15	3,470.10	4,313.80
22:20	2,963.60	3,970.00
22:25	3,042.50	3,933.60
22:30	3,045.50	4,063.90
22:35	2,860.50	3,664.00
22:40	2,760.80	3,829.20
22:45	2,941.40	3,337.70
22:50	3,199.10	2,338.20
22:55	3,286.70	2,221.20
Ratings include HD where necessary
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Old 17-04-2011, 09:48
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Money. The FA overspent on the new Wembley so now they need to make as much money on it as possble to make a profit.

It changed a few years ago, after the new Wembley opened. Previously FA Cup Semi Finals were played at another neutral venue, and just the final at was played at Wembley.
Ticket charges for the Cup Final have increased by 22% this year when inflation is running (depending on which figures you believe) around 4%.And they never did anything to improve the roads round Wembley, a disgrace.Why isn't ITV News investigating this scandalous rip-off by the FA ?
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