The Ratings Thread (Part 19)

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rzt

13-05-2011

A few ratings in from last night:

A Very Dangerous Doctor (C4): 917,390 (4.2%)

Extreme Fishing: Ends of the Earth (C5): 1.2m (5.1%)
Impossible (C5)- 511,610 (2.9%)

The Chicago Code (Sky 1): 320,925 (1.4%)
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Bad rating for a Very Dangerous Doctor, under the 1m mark for C4 and behind C5 in the 9pm slot. Very poor start for Impossible. Given the promotion, idents etc, Channel 5 must've hoping for something like 1m if not more. I don't think they've rated as low as that at 10pm since Heads or Tails about a year ago.

Salford_Who

13-05-2011

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“It's hardly "a BBC1 show".

I used to love Eurovision, when each country put up diverse musical performers, singing in their own language, watching the hilarious translations on the Ceefax subtitles, Terry's humorous asides, the quirks of the voting etc.

Now it's bland and samey, everyone sings homogenous 2.5 minute Euro-pop, in English, and there's hardly anything to entertain. And the tactical block voting has rendered the whole thing a pointless farce.

Even Nick Clegg couldn't have come up with a worse voting system.”

It's 3 minutes not 2.5 actually

Damien.

13-05-2011

Tactical voting is a thing of the past.. there's now a 50/50 televote and jury split and countries like Austria, Switzerland and Ireland - who suffered from the "tactical voting" have all qualified.

Salford_Who

13-05-2011

Anyone got bbc3 eurovision semifinal ratings now that the obligatory despair and condemnation are out of the way

newkid30

13-05-2011

Tactical voting is gone, as is Terry Wogan (Graham Norton is WAY better), Loads of different genres this year, Opera, Ballads, Sixties, pop, folk, rock, traditional. Jury voting accounts for 50% of vote, hence Turkey didn't even qualify. You clearly haven't watched it in a few years.

ETA your analysis was very accurate 3 years ago, when I was ready to give up on it, but thankfully they've really turned things around, a result of which, the show is enormously improved. I concede it is the naffest campest thing on TV, but I don't take it seriously, it's a bit of fun.

It's like TXF some love it (I don't), but each to their own, I believe if you don't like something, hey, don't watch it!

Nicky2win87

13-05-2011

When was the last time you watched Eurovision? They have changed the voting patterns to 50% televote and 50% jury vote so that has counteracted the "diaspora voting". Turkey and Armenia failed to qualify for the final this year and they normally always do no matter what tripe they send.

There are a few "Euro-pop-esque" songs this year I'll give you that, but there is also plenty of ballads, uptempo modern songs and even a bit of rock and not every country is singing in English.

If you don't like Eurovision that is fair enough, but it is certainly not like you described.

GeorgeS

13-05-2011

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“With most TXF winners vanishing without trace after their Winner's Song and Winner's Album, there is perhaps a role for TXF as a feeder show for Eurosong contestants.

I'd happily see BBC1 ditch the Eurovision.”

I wish the BBC would ditch the stupid commentators on BBC3. Do they have to use twitter comments from every Joe tosspot who thinks he is funny but is really just a pub bore?

Please give Eurovision to a channel (ITV) that understands light entertainment.

Originally Posted by Nicky2win87:
“When was the last time you watched Eurovision? They have changed the voting patterns to 50% televote and 50% jury vote so that has counteracted the "diaspora voting". Turkey and Armenia failed to qualify for the final this year and they normally always do no matter what tripe they send.

There are a few "Euro-pop-esque" songs this year I'll give you that, but there is also plenty of ballads, uptempo modern songs and even a bit of rock and not every country is singing in English.

If you don't like Eurovision that is fair enough, but it is certainly not like you described.”

He'd love the Moldova entry!

contejas

13-05-2011

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I have little time for the Eurovision, a thoroughly discredited institution, and a pale shadow of its former self. Ultra-tacky, over-hyped, lacking real artistic talent, a backing tapes and auto-tune frenzy, and just naff, the two shows certainly make for easy bedfellows.

With most TXF winners vanishing without trace after their Winner's Song and Winner's Album, there is perhaps a role for TXF as a feeder show for Eurosong contestants.

I'd happily see BBC1 ditch the Eurovision.”

Now that's a reason to never bring back eurosong...

How the hell did Germany win last year ( a couple of years ago they came last with the UK) if tactical voting is such a major factor...

derek500

13-05-2011

Originally Posted by gottago:
“Tactical voting is a thing of the past and thankfully so is Wogan.”

Until the voting is changed to some sort of 'proportional representation' it will remain a farce.

You can't give tiny Eastern European countries the same number of votes to hand out as the UK, Spain, France and Germany etc.

e.g. Estonia and Lithuania have a joint population of five million. But they have the same number of votes as Germany and France with a joint population of 143m.

GeorgeS

13-05-2011

Originally Posted by derek500:
“Until the voting is changed to some sort of 'proportional representation' it will remain a farce.

You can't give tiny Eastern European countries the same number of votes to hand out as the UK, Spain, France and Germany etc.

e.g. Estonia and Lithuania have a joint population of five million. But they have the same number of votes as Germany and France with a joint population of 143m.”

Maybe you could apply that to the World Cup too and give England 15 players versus 5 for Estonia, etc. China of course would be allowed 55 players on the pitch.

EuroChris

13-05-2011

The population of each country doesn't matter one tiny jot. The 1-12 points system means that each country is equal.

rzt

13-05-2011

Thursday 12th May Overnights
BBC One
19:30- EastEnders: 7.84m (38.6%)
20:00- Watchdog: 4.03m (18.4%)
21:00- Inside The Human Body: 4.06m (17.5%)
22:35- Question Time: 2.73m (21.9%)

BBC Two
19:00- Coast: 1.54m (7.9%)
20:00- The Animal's Guide to Britain: 1.6m (7.3%)
21:00- The Shadow Line: 2.06m (8.8%)
22:00- Psychoville: 990k (4.9%)

ITV1
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.57m (35%)
19:30- Tonight: 2.62m (12.9%)
20:00- Emmerdale: 6.64m (31.7%)
20:30- Coronation Street: 7.3m (31.9%) , +1: 147k (0.6%)
21:00- Long Lost Family: 4.36m (18.8%) , +1: 274k (1.5%)

Channel 4
20:00- Three in a Bed: 1.18m (5.4%) , +1: 306k (1.3%)
21:00- A Very Dangerous Doctor: 930k (4.2%) , +1: 185k (1.2%)
22:30- The Secret Millionaire: 691k (inc +1)

Channel 5
19:30- Rough Guide to City Breaks: 308k (1.5%)
20:00- Emergency Bikers: 622k (2.8%)
21:00- Extreme Fishing with Robson Green: 1.19m (5.9%)
22:00- Impossible: 512k (2.9%)

Primetime Shares
ITV1: 21.6% (+1: 0.6%)
BBC One: 21.5%
BBC Two: 7.2%
Channel 4: 4.2% (+1: 0.9%)
Channel 5: 3%

Multichannel
BBC Three
20:00- Eurovision Semi Final: 663k (3%)
* peak: 766k at 9.30pm
22:30- Russell Howard's Good News: 703k (4.5%)
23:20- Family Guy Presents: 647k (6.8%)

Dave (inc +1)
21:00- New Dave's One Night Stand: 385k

E4
21:00- The Big Bang Theory: 474k (inc +1)
21:30- How I Met Your Mother: 441k (inc +1)

Film4 (inc +1)
18:15- Coach Carter: 178k
21:00- Hush: 438k

GOLD (inc +1)
22:00- Only Fools & Horses: 124k

ITV2
21:00- Peter Andre: The Next Chapter: 814k (3.5%) , +1: 175k (1%)
22:00- Celebrity Juice: 1.55m (8.1%) , +1: 214k (2%)
* all time high

More4 (inc +1)
19:45- Grand Designs: 398k
21:00- The Good Wife: 310k

Sky 1
21:00- The Chicago Code: 321k (1.4%)

Watch (inc +1)
22:00- Who Do You Think You Are?: 221k

Sources: Attentional, C4Sales, DS

More ratings on the next page...

Saturn

13-05-2011

Have you considered that if the big countries give out more of the points then they will have sod all chance of winning?

RobbieSykes123

13-05-2011

Oh dear, I've upset the Eurosong geeks now. I can't win these days....

I agree with derek500's comment. They should simply collate the total number of pan-Europe votes for every song, at a central registry, go through the list and announce the total votes, and at the end, the one with the most people voting for it, wins.

No need in this day and age for the prolonged charade of "12 points goes to... , 10 points goes to... , 8 points etc" from every single European nation.

When did I last watch? - 2010.

I generally catch all or some of it every year. It is something of a ritual, but every year I pledge never to watch again.

Bushmills

13-05-2011

Eurovision averaged 663k across the two hours.

Peaked at 766 at 9.30pm.

EuroChris

13-05-2011

Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“Eurovision averaged 663k across the two hours.

Peaked at 766 at 9.30pm.”

Unless I'm mistaken it was the most watched semi final in the UK since they were introduced in 2004.

derek500

13-05-2011

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Maybe you could apply that to the World Cup too and give England 15 players versus 5 for Estonia, etc. China of course would be allowed 55 players on the pitch.”

Bit different!!

Yugoslavia used to have 12 votes to give to the winner. Now the same population have 72 as they've split into six countries.

The same voting power as UK, France, Germany, Spain, Portugal and Italy.

RobbieSykes123

13-05-2011

Originally Posted by rzt:
“Thursday 12th May Overnights
BBC Two
21:00- The Shadow Line: 2.06m (8.8%)

ITV1
21:00- Long Lost Family: 4.36m (18.8%)”

Big drop for The Shadow Line - about a third - but still respectable. Could this have been engineered as a BBC1 show though and have a better chance of an audience?

LLF looks like a copycat hit for ITV, relatively speaking. I wonder when WDYTYA is due back for BBC1? Seems ages since it was last on.

GeorgeS

13-05-2011

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“LLF looks like a copycat hit for ITV, relatively speaking. I wonder when WDYTYA is due back for BBC1? Seems ages since it was last on.”

A copy of what though? As if any idea (other than anything the BBC found in LWT's skip

) is totally new?

GeorgeS

13-05-2011

Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“Eurovision averaged 663k across the two hours.

Peaked at 766 at 9.30pm.”

same as TXF - peaked when Jedward were performing.

gottago

13-05-2011

In that case Russia's favourite would be at a huge advantage every year.

The current system of 50/50 voting works brilliantly and has eliminated the overwhelming majority of political voting.

Simon G

13-05-2011

Originally Posted by EuroChris:
“Unless I'm mistaken it was the most watched semi final in the UK since they were introduced in 2004.”

Does this include share on BBC HD channel?

EuroChris

13-05-2011

Originally Posted by Simon G:
“Does this include share on BBC HD channel?”

I don't think it does.

Wryip

13-05-2011

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“LLF looks like a copycat hit for ITV, relatively speaking. I wonder when WDYTYA is due back for BBC1? Seems ages since it was last on.”

Long Lost family is nothing like Who Do You Think You Are? nor is it trying to be. Its just the appaling section of Jeremy Kyle where they reintroduce family members, packaged up into prime time entertainment with a bigger budget. and complete with Davina McCall for tear value There is no history element to the show

GeorgeS

13-05-2011

Originally Posted by Wryip:
“Long Lost family is nothing like Who Do You Think You Are? nor is it trying to be. Its just the appaling section of Jeremy Kyle where they reintroduce family members, packaged up into prime time entertainment with a bigger budget. and complete with Davina McCall for tear value There is no history element to the show”

Its Surprise, Surprise reworked (ask your gran what it was)

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