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The Ratings Thread (Part 19)
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rzt
14-05-2011
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“I do find there is still a mild bias towards the BBC among middle class viewers, similarly ITV programmes often skew heavily C2DE.”

Yeah, ITV shows tend to skew with a lower ABC1 audience, even for identical sort of programming compared to BBC1. Take recent ITV1 period dramas like Downton Abbey & Lost in Austen for example - their audiences were made up of 50% ABC1s. Had they been on BBC1, like most of their period drama, ABC1s would've made up ~60% of the audience. It's just one of those things.

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“On that note, do you have a list of 'Top 10' ABC1 shows; 'Top 10 18-49 shows' or something of that nature for the week? Would be interested to see what ranks highly there which may not be on your list. Thanks as always rzt. ”

I don't have a list of those - it would take quite a while calculating everything as it has to be done manually. Apart from the ones I've mentioned, the soaps, Casualty, Holby City, Antiques Roadshow would most likely get in either or both those ABC1/18-49 Top 10s list.
D.M.N.
14-05-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“I don't have a list of those - it would take quite a while calculating everything as it has to be done manually. Apart from the ones I've mentioned, the soaps, Casualty, Holby City, Antiques Roadshow would most likely get in either or both those ABC1/18-49 Top 10s list.”

Ah, okay! No worries then.
all_night
14-05-2011
Was it ever reported what McFly got in the ratings? I think after yesterdays love-in here my post got missed.
GeorgeS
14-05-2011
Any demos for Impossible? or is the audience too small to do a split?
Brekkie
14-05-2011
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“Just highlights how poor Channel 4 are for drama at the moment. They're still investing in Shameless, I suppose - but aside from that its just US imports that don't do nearly as well as they used to and the very occasional miniseries. BBC Two's investment is leaving them well behind, it seems.”

It is definately where C4 need to be investing - and in returnable series, not vanity projects such as Any Human Heart which were never going to rate and have no chance of returning. Get two or three more returning series into circulation on the main channel and then you can start spending on one-offs.

Always frustrates me this time of year when you see the US networks unveiling plans for the entire year with numerous new dramas in the offing, when here we get a three-part series annoucned here, a four-part series announced there and that's about it, though C4 did have as close a thing as we get to upfronts this week with the announcement of the axing of Fern and commissioning of a Charlie Brooker drama series (three parts, individual stories) and Coup (four parts, no chance of being a returning series!), which is a new version of A Very British Coup which C4 have already adapted once for television anyway.

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“I wonder how much longer Paul O Grady will last in peak time. His peak time ITV1 show just hasn't delivered. I bet they'll move him back to 5pm.”

I don't think though he has any desire to return to the 5pm slot, and as others have said he actually performs relatively well on Friday.

If once the Champions League moves though they move the Friday 8.30 edition of Corrie to Wednesday (as seemed to be the concensus here) moving Paul O'Grady to 8pm would probably work - I don't think it would lose viewers (even though it's up against EE). The only other slot might be Wednesdays at 8pm in those few windows when the football isn't on - but they seem to have that covered with numerous Midsomer Murders now.


P.S. Back to C4 and Jon Richardson is replacing Jason Manford on 8 out of 10 Cats. Must say I've never heard of him.
http://www.channel4.com/info/press/n...w-team-captain
rzt
14-05-2011
Originally Posted by all_night:
“Was it ever reported what McFly got in the ratings?”

McFly on the Wall (11/5/11): 116,000

Looking at 5*'s BARB Top 10s, that looks like quite a good rating for the channel. It was almost 5 times more than what 5* had in that same slot the previous week.

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Any demos for Impossible?”

Impossible? (22:00-23:05):

Total: 495k
4-15: 23k (5%)
16-34: 126k (25%)
35-44: 66k (13%)
45-54: 87k (18%)
55-64: 78k (16%)
65+: 115k (23%)

ABC1: 28%
C2DE: 72%

53/47% - Male/Female
all_night
14-05-2011
Thank you rzt.

Hopefully it will build on that, was quite a good show.
rzt
14-05-2011
Friday 13th May - Soap Overnights
BBC One
13:45- Doctors: 1.41m (21.1%)
20:00- EastEnders: 7.73m (34.7%)

ITV1
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.43m (34.1%)
19:30- Coronation Street: 7.86m (38.9%)
20:30- Coronation Street: 7.17m (31.3%) , +1: 181k

Channel 4
18:30- Hollyoaks: 863k (4.8%)

Channel 5
13:45- Neighbours: 778k (11.6%)
17:30- Neighbours: 1.18m (8.8%)
18:00- Home & Away: 705k (4.3%)

Ratings include HD

Multichannel
BBC Three
22:00- EastEnders: 695k (3.4%)

E4
19:00- Hollyoaks: 449k (2.4%)

5*
18:30- Home and Away: 479k (2.7%)

Source: DS
D.M.N.
14-05-2011
Have DS stopped tape-checking or something? Because its 20:30 audience that they have for Thursday and Friday was very poor. (unless it finished at 20:58, at which point I apologise for the above comment) 31.9% and 31.3% respectively is poor.
rzt
14-05-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Have DS stopped tape-checking or something? Because its 20:30 audience according to them on Thursday and Friday was very poor. (unless it finished at 20:58, at which point I apologise for the above comment)”

Attentional didn't tape-check Monday's ratings for some reason. On Thursday, Corrie finished after 20:57:30 so that rating was for the full slot. I'm not sure about Friday's episode - it usually finishes at 20:55 but Attentional are stating it finished at 20:59 - that looks like an error by them.
D.M.N.
14-05-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Attentional didn't tape-check Monday's ratings for some reason. On Thursday, Corrie finished after 20:57:30 so that rating was for the full slot. I'm not sure about Friday's episode - it usually finishes at 20:55 but Attentional are stating it finished at 20:59 - that looks like an error by them.”

Hmm, okay. Strange.

One rating they will be tape-checking is Doctor Who, it finished at 19:16, when it was scheduled to finish at 19:20. (and The Two Ronnies on BBC2 started at 19:18 despite a scheduled 19:15 start, maybe BBC wants no one to watch SYTYCD!)
RobbieSykes123
14-05-2011
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“who is saying that?”

Nobody, obviously. But the mere presence of two Irish talent show rejects seems to have generated much excitement on DigitalSpy, and panic (no doubt laid on a bit) amongst Cowell obsessives...

Originally Posted by rzt:
“Here's the Demographic Information for the last week: http://i56.tinypic.com/15n9fzl.jpg

Not that demos matter much to the Beeb, but The Apprentice is huge in the key demos: a very young skewing and highly upmarket audience. In fact, I haven't seen any TV show this year (bar the Royal Wedding) get as many ABC1 viewers as that Apprentice launch episode.”

The Apprentice seems to be about the only TV show which routinely gets talked about in our office, and that everyone seems to watch, across all age ranges. I have yet to hear anyone talk about TXF, BGT etc - no doubt some do watch, but keep quiet about it.
sn_22
14-05-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Here's the Demographic Information for the last week: http://i56.tinypic.com/15n9fzl.jpg

Not that demos matter much to the Beeb, but The Apprentice is huge in the key demos: a very young skewing and highly upmarket audience. In fact, I haven't seen any TV show this year (bar the Royal Wedding) get as many ABC1 viewers as that Apprentice launch episode.”

I love seeing these demos - they're really revealing.

As you say, The Apprentice hits some really great numbers for 18-49 and ABC1's. That sort of factual entertainment does seem to do well in the demos - Masterchef was impressing me a few weeks ago on that score, despite relatively modest overall numbers.

The other standout figure in there is actually for Inside The Human Body. The 18-49 skew is the same as Doctor Who (obviously, Who racks it up in Under 18's) and it beats out the likes of HIGNFY, among others, in outright numbers. That seems very impressive for a factual programme.
RobbieSykes123
14-05-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Hmm, okay. Strange.

One rating they will be tape-checking is Doctor Who, it finished at 19:16, when it was scheduled to finish at 19:20.”

Well that will drive down the overnights then - 7m+ down to 3m at the stroke of 7.16 will dent DW's average.

I see both BBC and ITV are doing their level-best right now to ensure that whether viewers' tastes are dancing dogs or non-entities Europopping to backing tapes, at least they'll be able to say "it's better than what was on beforehand".
Glenn A
14-05-2011
I reckon DW will get 7 million tonight, a later start and a strong story will help. I hope that abomination Sing If You Can falls below 3 million opposite and ITV cancel it.
Samthefootball
14-05-2011
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“I reckon DW will get 7 million tonight, a later start and a strong story will help. I hope that abomination Sing If You Can falls below 3 million opposite and ITV cancel it.”


Glenn. I have read some of your posts about Britains got talent and the X Factor ending in 2013. Why do you think they will Because Ratings are still good and even if they got as low as say 6 million ITV Will still want it back
iaindb
14-05-2011
Did anyone hear the announcer at the start of The Two Ronnies on BBC2 tonight? It would appear the episode was shown as part of their tribute to John Sullivan, alongside The Comedy Genius Of John Sullivan and Citizen Smith. It contained the classic "It's A Duck" sketch which, I believe, John co-wrote.

It just seems that the BBC chose to repeat the episode without saying why.

I wonder what ratings it will get, being on against both SIYC and SYTYCD. By rights, with that competition, it should be level with BGT.

Last week, against the same competition, Dad's Army had 2.44m. That's a bit rubbish. Should have done better than that.
Charnham
14-05-2011
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Or Hole in the Wall, I don't know why the BBC bother with these types of shows as they're best left to ITV. However, I wouldn't saythe BBC don't make rubbish TV as there is a lot they show that is complete garbage like Eastenders.”

so they cant be accused of being eliest

We all know EE was created by the BBC, as the Tories thought there wasnt enough shows for the working classes on the BBC.
Samthefootball
14-05-2011
Britains got talent was very good tonight. And there were some very talented acts. I hope it does in the ratings
Score
14-05-2011
I agree about BGT, it was great tonight - easily the best show of the series so far, so I've no idea why they aired tonight's episode against Eurovision when the ratings will be much lower than usual. They'd have been better off airing this one a couple of weeks ago when the press were gunning for it, and then they could have buried the dreadful episode with Louis Walsh against Eurovision tonight.
fodg09
14-05-2011
Rather bizarrely apparently Tulissa from NDubz will replace Danni when the XF begins taping next week. Obviously we will have to wait and see how she does but on face value it sounds like an awful decision.
Agent F
14-05-2011
Originally Posted by fodg09:
“Rather bizarrely apparently Tulissa from NDubz will replace Danni when the XF begins taping next week. Obviously we will have to wait and see how she does but on face value it sounds like an awful decision.”

Horrible decision. God knows what's going to happen to the show this year, it doesn't bode particularly well.
Andy23
14-05-2011
I do find it amusing how despite many people here hating The X Factor, it seems to get discussed all year round in this thread!
C14E
14-05-2011
Originally Posted by fodg09:
“Rather bizarrely apparently Tulissa from NDubz will replace Danni when the XF begins taping next week. Obviously we will have to wait and see how she does but on face value it sounds like an awful decision.”

A wider revamp of the show does make sense and has been suggested quite a lot, but I didn't think they'd actually do it. Tulisa, on paper, is not who I would have gone for. Admittedly I didn't particularly support the idea of replacing Sharon with Cheryl. But this one seems even more surprising.
Samthefootball
14-05-2011
What's the betting that Simon Cowell Will Come back after saying he has quit.
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