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Old 29-04-2011, 21:41
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Although why I don't know - they could easily have put a special at 8pm.

Any idea when we would get the appreciation figures for today's broadcasts - it would be interesting to see if the general concencus about ITV coming out on top is reflected in them.
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Old 29-04-2011, 21:43
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Although why I don't know - they could easily have put a special at 8pm.

Any idea when we would get the appreciation figures for today's broadcasts - it would be interesting to see if the general concencus about ITV coming out on top is reflected in them.
Tuesday, unless reported earlier by newspapers.
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Old 29-04-2011, 22:03
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For anyone interested New Zealand's Friday ratings will appear here in the next hour or two. Obviously New Zealand being the first country to report ratings, apparently Diana and Charles had 1.8m over there, see here and here.

From Mashable.com: http://mashable.com/2011/04/29/royal...g-live-stream/

The Royal Wedding has already taken over trending topics across the web, and we can now report that it has broken at least one record: concurrent viewers on Livestream.

The company says that its livestream of William and Kate’s wedding topped 300,000 concurrent viewers at 6 a.m. ET on Friday morning. CEO Max Haot tells us that he expects “at least 2 million” unique viewers by the time the broadcast is done. Livestream partnered with the Associated Press, UK Press Association, CBS and Entertainment Tonight for its coverage.

Akamai reports that the event broke broader live streaming records as well. A representative for the company — whose network hosts some of the web’s largest news sites — reports that “concurrent live streams of Royal Wedding on Akamai surpassed the 1.6M peak set by World Cup in June of 2010.”

However, the event does not appear to be the biggest news event in web history. While the 4.6 million page views per minute reported on the news sites Akamai delivers content for this morning surpass the total for Barack Obama’s presidential election victory, they fall well short of the 10.3 million page views per minute record set last June when a World Cup qualifying match and the longest Wimbledon match in history took place simultaneously.
Even though this is strictly a 'TV' Ratings Thread, I do think facts like above are interesting to note, plus the lines are being blurred a bit now with a lot more viewing via online, as above shows. I'm pretty sure BBC News on Twitter will report tomorrow morning that their online record has been smashed.
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Old 29-04-2011, 22:21
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In the interests of balance, I did flick to ITV a couple of times today, when the Beeb cut to Fearne or had Schama wittering on. I thought Schof and Nightingale did very well, and it did seem less staid than the BBC's predictably (and necessarily) more formal coverage.

But on great occasions of State like this, you just have to have the gravitas, scale and solid dependability of the Beeb. Watching a Royal Wedding on ITV would be like having egg and chips for Christmas Dinner - no matter how enjoyable, it just isn't right!
You see, when there is dangerous talk flying around that ITV might have triumphed at an event of national importance we can always rely on RS to bring some sense to the situation.

ITV have obviously sat down and worked out how they can be different to the BBC who would only ever have chosen David Dimbleby other than Huw Edwards meaning the overall feel would have been little different. Choosing Philip Schofield made a statement and gave viewers a choice. I am a bit worried what will happen if ITV do get better than expected ratings as Twitter will probably crash, and well, the BBC might go for Chris Evans next time.
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Old 29-04-2011, 22:30
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You see, when there is dangerous talk flying around that ITV might have triumphed at an event of national importance we can always rely on RS to bring some sense to the situation.

ITV have obviously sat down and worked out how they can be different to the BBC who would only ever have chosen David Dimbleby other than Huw Edwards meaning the overall feel would have been little different. Choosing Philip Schofield made a statement and gave viewers a choice. I am a bit worried what will happen if ITV do get better than expected ratings as Twitter will probably crash, and well, the BBC might go for Chris Evans next time.
I have great difficulty in trying to comprehend the exact reasoning behind the accusations that the BBC was dull. I watched the BBC coverage and I found it nothing but professional, informative and hugely entertaining. There was no sombre-ness and people in the crowds gave enough bizarre reactions to provide the comedic aspects! It was a National Event and as usual the BBC provided impeccable first rate pictures and with virtually no commentary during the service itself I thought they has it spot on! Even before the couple emerged from the palace in the Austin Martin the team were joking by saying they could appear on a tandem bike but the inklings they knew suggested it would be a treat!

I am sure ITV did a good job. They generally do. They are Britains second most important broadcaster and they have vast experience in doing these events.They're not going to put on a mediocre job! I didn't watch ITV so can't comment on what was better, but for all those berating the BBC, how much of it did you watch in order to come up with such a negative opinion?
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Old 29-04-2011, 22:38
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Although why I don't know - they could easily have put a special at 8pm.
An hour at 6pm and an hour at 10pm is probably quite enough.

Plus we wouldn't want anything to dent EastEnders
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Old 29-04-2011, 23:45
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Any Aussie ratings? They seem sporadic nowadays
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Old 29-04-2011, 23:48
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Any Aussie ratings? They seem sporadic nowadays
I might get some at about 1am, ill post them when I get some.
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Old 29-04-2011, 23:52
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I am sure ITV did a good job. They generally do. They are Britains second most important broadcaster and they have vast experience in doing these events.They're not going to put on a mediocre job! I didn't watch ITV so can't comment on what was better, but for all those berating the BBC, how much of it did you watch in order to come up with such a negative opinion?
My short answer would be that the Beeb had the wrong people in the wrong locations.
Huw Edwards presented as though it was the funeral of Sir Winston Churchill, and I'd have thought a pairing with Sophie Raworth would have helped to lighten the atmosphere (the 8.30pm highlights show with them sat side-by-side was better). Fiona Bruce (who joyously presented Thursday night's News to a cheering crowd as if conducting an orchestra) was utterly wasted outside the Abbey, stuck with the occasional interview. I shall try and be nice and just say that Fearne Cotton didn't have a good day at the office.
ITV1 struck gold. Pip Schofield and Julie Etchingham worked a treat together (let's hope they aren't punished by being offered the Daybreak gig), a much lighter tone to proceedings as the day demanded. To prove that you can present outside your comfort zone, Mark Austin mingling with the crowd in The Mall made for telly to make everyone feel good. Plenty of others (e.g. Mary Nightingale and Alistair Stewart) brought the right sense of feel to the day.
And that was the difference. If you were looking for a channel to help you smile during Friday, you would have been looking at ITV1.
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Old 30-04-2011, 00:10
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The BBC coverage was good but watching the ITV coverage, Phil and Julie worked really well and it was more upbeat in comparison to the BBC coverage. I think the BBC should not use Huw Edwards for the 2012 Olympics Opening Ceremony or at least pair him with a co-host.
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Old 30-04-2011, 00:26
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No idea where the ratings are going to end up tomorrow. I have to say though, I have been struck by Royal Wedding conversations with friends today who I never thought had any sort of interest whatsoever. On the whole, the fashionable scepticism thing has been well overplayed - just as it has been for previous Royal occasions (the Golden Jubilee a perfect example).

In terms of ratings balance, I feel justified in my predictions that ITV won't be getting a total drubbing. As an event, their approach suited the mood very well and their presenting choices appeared to work excellently. Plus ad-free coverage, and I can see this one being towards the low end of the usual head-to-head ratios.

(This isn't actually to say that there was anything wrong with the BBC's slick and professional coverage. It's just a different style of presentation to ITV's and I think the latter suits this type of celebratory event better.)
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Old 30-04-2011, 00:44
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My short answer would be that the Beeb had the wrong people in the wrong locations.
Huw Edwards presented as though it was the funeral of Sir Winston Churchill, and I'd have thought a pairing with Sophie Raworth would have helped to lighten the atmosphere (the 8.30pm highlights show with them sat side-by-side was better). Fiona Bruce (who joyously presented Thursday night's News to a cheering crowd as if conducting an orchestra) was utterly wasted outside the Abbey, stuck with the occasional interview. I shall try and be nice and just say that Fearne Cotton didn't have a good day at the office.
ITV1 struck gold. Pip Schofield and Julie Etchingham worked a treat together (let's hope they aren't punished by being offered the Daybreak gig), a much lighter tone to proceedings as the day demanded. To prove that you can present outside your comfort zone, Mark Austin mingling with the crowd in The Mall made for telly to make everyone feel good. Plenty of others (e.g. Mary Nightingale and Alistair Stewart) brought the right sense of feel to the day.
And that was the difference. If you were looking for a channel to help you smile during Friday, you would have been looking at ITV1.
Well I watched BBC1 and it made me smile. It captured the mood of the nation perfectly and it is not correct to say it felt like a funeral. If you watched ITV for a significant amount of time, how do you know whether the BBC was bad? Also, you do realise that for the service, ITV were showing BBC pictures don't you?
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Old 30-04-2011, 01:17
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The BBC coverage was good but watching the ITV coverage, Phil and Julie worked really well and it was more upbeat in comparison to the BBC coverage. I think the BBC should not use Huw Edwards for the 2012 Olympics Opening Ceremony or at least pair him with a co-host.
No doubt about it Huw shouldn't be anywhere near the Olympics. He did the same thing today as he did in Beijing and Delhi - failed to let the pictures tell the story. He felt he had to fill every moment of silence - and if something important interupted him, he just carried on talking.


On that topic the BBC expected to confirm who will lead the Olympic coverage soon (though I think the only question is whether Gary Lineker will be involved considering since 1996 apart from a couple of years on the Golf he's been football exclusive). Danny Cohen has also indicated unsurprisingly the games will dominate primetime for the fortnight - though has stopped short of confirming they'll do the sensible thing and axe EastEnders for the period. Or full stop.


Will be interesting to see the figures around the world tomorrow - it seems most the major broadcasters in many countries were carrying it. And here it's interesting that despite one obvious exception ITV seem to be getting universally praised. They always do such events better than they get credit for but usually you'll see folk online finding fault with it and refusing to betray the BBC, but that's not been the case at all today and critics and forumers alike seem to be in agreement that ITV came out on top.

I've also seen very little criticism of Sky's efforts today too - it's only the BBC who have come in for major flack, and no surprise really when two Radio 1 DJs and the bloke off Rogue Traders seemed to be their main reporters.
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Old 30-04-2011, 01:32
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I understand the Oylmpics being allowed to dominate on BBC 1, but can we really not let some shows continue on BBC 2?

That said, the stuff we want to see will see its ratings suffer, but still I would like to be given the option.
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Old 30-04-2011, 01:39
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Ahead of the figures, the usual National Grid test
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...edding-ratings
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Old 30-04-2011, 01:43
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I expect some Olympic coverage will be on BBC Two as BBC One cannot accomodate every event.

Next year is The Diamond Jubilee which will result in another four day weekend. Who presented the Golden Jubilee in 2002?
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Old 30-04-2011, 02:06
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Almost 2.2 million kiwis tuned in to watch the Royal Wedding last night.

Official data from Nielsen TAM shows that 2,192,000 viewers watched the wedding at some stage between 7:30pm – 12:30am on TV ONE and/or TV3 (viewers who watched parts of the wedding on both channels have only been counted once to provide an accurate figure).

The ceremony itself drew the highest audience of the night. 1,376,610 viewers watched Prince William and Catherine Middleton exchange vows live from Westminster Abbey between 10:15-10:30pm. (884,190 on TV ONE – 492,420 on TV3) Arguably the ‘most romantic’ part of the event was watched by many more women than men. 64% of the audience watching the nuptials were women, 36% were men.

TVNZ’s official broadcast from the BBC attracted the highest share – 42% of people watching TV last night were watching the royal wedding on TV ONE, 18% of viewers watched it on TV3.
Source: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU110...tv-ratings.htm
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Old 30-04-2011, 02:20
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I expect some Olympic coverage will be on BBC Two as BBC One cannot accomodate every event.

Next year is The Diamond Jubilee which will result in another four day weekend. Who presented the Golden Jubilee in 2002?
David Dimbleby. There were complaints, naturally...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2002/jun/07/bbc.jubilee

Which, thinking about it, may have led to the more sedate, professional nature of the presentation for the wedding.
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Old 30-04-2011, 02:22
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Who was supplying the coverage on TV3 - ITV?
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Old 30-04-2011, 02:23
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Who was supplying the coverage on TV3 - ITV?
I don't know. Very possibly.
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Old 30-04-2011, 02:27
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I don't know. Very possibly.
Cheers. I wonder whether we'll see that kind of share split between BBC1 and ITV1 for specific time slots when the ratings come in.
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Old 30-04-2011, 02:31
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Cheers. I wonder whether we'll see that kind of share split between BBC1 and ITV1 for specific time slots when the ratings come in.
If we're lucky we might get breakdowns for the two channels.

The Australian ratings are taking an age to come out - about an hour late now. Going to throw in the towel in a minute.
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Old 30-04-2011, 02:33
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Do you not think with regard to the hew Edwards debate that there might be a class thing going on? Considering most people on tis thread are corrie watchers maybe it's a skewed demo? Just asking!!
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Old 30-04-2011, 02:36
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Do you not think with regard to the hew Edwards debate that there might be a class thing going on? Considering most people on tis thread are corrie watchers maybe it's a skewed demo? Just asking!!
Hmm, I'm not sure. I think most people on this thread would say the Ten O'Clock News (presented by Huw Edwards) is better than News at Ten (co-presented by Julie Etchingham) so...
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Old 30-04-2011, 02:37
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Considering most people on tis thread are corrie watchers
News to me. EastEnders generally generates more discussion here.
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