the only time I will see the wedding will be the parts that make it into EastEnders.
The Ratings Thread (Part 19)
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It's a generational thing with the Royal Wedding.
It will skew old, and we all know how many oldies watch TV.
It will skew old, and we all know how many oldies watch TV.
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“It's a generational thing with the Royal Wedding.
It will skew old, and we all know how many oldies watch TV.”
“It's a generational thing with the Royal Wedding.
It will skew old, and we all know how many oldies watch TV.
”
I don't know of anyone that actually wants to watch it (young or old)
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“the only time I will see the wedding will be the parts that make it into EastEnders.”
“the only time I will see the wedding will be the parts that make it into EastEnders.”
Yep thats all im going to see.
I've actually asked to swap my days off so im working for the Royal wedding and having the Saturday off.
Couldn't think of anything worse then watching that sh*te
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“In fairness, that Mail piece is hardly bad for ITV - given the big numbers being bandied about, and the portrayal of the show as a "national obsession".
And the Cowell absence from BGT and TXF is, much to my irritation, becoming a news story. Even the business pages in the weekend papers were all over it, and a full page interview with Archie Norman in the Sunday Times business section yesterday was in reality all about Cowell and headlined thus.
I despair...”
“In fairness, that Mail piece is hardly bad for ITV - given the big numbers being bandied about, and the portrayal of the show as a "national obsession".
And the Cowell absence from BGT and TXF is, much to my irritation, becoming a news story. Even the business pages in the weekend papers were all over it, and a full page interview with Archie Norman in the Sunday Times business section yesterday was in reality all about Cowell and headlined thus.
I despair...”
Maybe he is considering ending TXF when the contract ends in 2013. If ratings start to fall, he doesn't want to be linked to a lame duck. I think TXF might start to fall away in the ratings without him.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Eek! Britain really gripped by Royal Wedding fever. NOT.
Good rating for The Hotel. C4 don't normally do very well at all on Sunday nights so they'll be pleased with that performance.”
“Eek! Britain really gripped by Royal Wedding fever. NOT.
Good rating for The Hotel. C4 don't normally do very well at all on Sunday nights so they'll be pleased with that performance.”
Then again, at the moment C4 is happy anyone is watching them. Really though they should have held back Come Dine with Me until Dancing on Ice finished - I suspect it would get close to 3m in the 8pm slot opposite Antiques Roadshow and Lewis.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“the only time I will see the wedding will be the parts that make it into EastEnders.”
“the only time I will see the wedding will be the parts that make it into EastEnders.”
So you're too cool for the Royal yet admit to watching EastEnders.
I think for many it's the event rather than the Royals which is the big draw. Like it or not, such events have defined out countries history and people will watch out of intrique more than interest.
Will be interesting to see how it does in Australia, where it's in primetime across all networks. ABC2 have even got The Chasers commentating.
And obviously the US networks have no sway over scheduling at Westminster Abbey - I'm sure they'd have preferred a late afternoon wedding (well, a 1am slot would have been ideal!)
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Sunday 17th April 2011
BBC One
10:15 - London Marathon: 2.67m (31.3%)
* last year: 3.71m (35.35%)
* peak: 3.33m (37.8%) @ 11:20
BBC Two
08:30 - London Marathon: 1.43m (15.1%)”
“Sunday 17th April 2011
BBC One
10:15 - London Marathon: 2.67m (31.3%)
* last year: 3.71m (35.35%)
* peak: 3.33m (37.8%) @ 11:20
BBC Two
08:30 - London Marathon: 1.43m (15.1%)”
When you say 'last year', what time period are you comparing, as isn't the coverage usually all on BBC1 from the start?
The reaction to the Royal Wedding on DS is starting to get on my nerves.
As soon as anyone suggests watching it, or even suggests discussing the coverage, dozens of people fall over themselves to say that they will definally not be watching, generally expressing this in the most extreme terms available.
It's all as if they are being cool and anti-establishment by saying they'd "rather poke themselves in the eye than watch".
How typical this forum is, I'm not sure.
As soon as anyone suggests watching it, or even suggests discussing the coverage, dozens of people fall over themselves to say that they will definally not be watching, generally expressing this in the most extreme terms available.
It's all as if they are being cool and anti-establishment by saying they'd "rather poke themselves in the eye than watch".
How typical this forum is, I'm not sure.
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“I don't know of anyone that actually wants to watch it (young or old)”
“I don't know of anyone that actually wants to watch it (young or old)”
Oh, that's it then. It'll get 2.5m.
HBO have picked up Armando Iannucci's political comedy series 'VEEP'. However it wont premiere until Autumn 2012. I think I am right in saying a pilot has already been shot.
Also apparently the ratings for last nights Game Of Thrones debut on HBO won't be available until tomorrow.
Also apparently the ratings for last nights Game Of Thrones debut on HBO won't be available until tomorrow.
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Oh, that's it then. It'll get 2.5m.”
“Oh, that's it then. It'll get 2.5m.
”
On ITV i expect so
Of course the rating is going to be high but i don't think many are all that bothered tbh
There will be loads of street party's of course but thats just an excuse to get P*ssed and have a bit of fun
I think it's the older people that will be fussed.
I really can't see many 15 years olds or 25 years olds watching
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“The reaction to the Royal Wedding on DS is starting to get on my nerves.
As soon as anyone suggests watching it, or even suggests discussing the coverage, dozens of people fall over themselves to say that they will definally not be watching, generally expressing this in the most extreme terms available.
It's all as if they are being cool and anti-establishment by saying they'd "rather poke themselves in the eye than watch".
How typical this forum is, I'm not sure.”
“The reaction to the Royal Wedding on DS is starting to get on my nerves.
As soon as anyone suggests watching it, or even suggests discussing the coverage, dozens of people fall over themselves to say that they will definally not be watching, generally expressing this in the most extreme terms available.
It's all as if they are being cool and anti-establishment by saying they'd "rather poke themselves in the eye than watch".
How typical this forum is, I'm not sure.”
Its bizarre isn't it, I think there is no way for anyone to predict the ratings as so much depends on the actual day. You can't use previous weddings as a guide as they happened so long ago.
So some people go for automatic cynicism (in an unnecessarily harsh way) in an attempt to seem in step with popular opinion.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“It peaked at 5.14m, which is a fantastic peak: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...one-tv-ratings
I think that's a 15-minute peak, so 5-minute peak will be higher.
It's the highest ever live rating for the Chinese round. The re-run rating will take it over 4m altogether, maybe near 5m.”
“It peaked at 5.14m, which is a fantastic peak: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...one-tv-ratings
I think that's a 15-minute peak, so 5-minute peak will be higher.
It's the highest ever live rating for the Chinese round. The re-run rating will take it over 4m altogether, maybe near 5m.”
Great news about F1. Now who has done there maths about F1 peak and the Avg London Marathon? the total for that is 6.5M viewers which also equals 87.4%
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“When you say 'last year', what time period are you comparing, as isn't the coverage usually all on BBC1 from the start?”
“When you say 'last year', what time period are you comparing, as isn't the coverage usually all on BBC1 from the start?”
It doesn't really matter. The 3.71m from last year is higher than the other two figures, so it's higher last year than this year.
Originally Posted by david04121980:
“Great news about F1. Now who has done there maths about F1 peak and the Avg London Marathon? the total for that is 6.5M viewers which also equals 87.4%”
“Great news about F1. Now who has done there maths about F1 peak and the Avg London Marathon? the total for that is 6.5M viewers which also equals 87.4%”
I'm not sure whether the actual share is correct, but I think it would fair to say at least 60% of the audience watching TV were watching BBC1 or BBC2 yesterday morning.
Fantastic rating for the Chinese GP yesterday. The F1 seems to have been getting some high ratings recently, with "record high" figures or "best figures" in a number of years. It does a brilliant job for the Beeb so I wonder what will happen when the rights are up for renewal. If recent reports are anything to go by, the BBC are considering letting go off it to save costs, which would be a shame given the ratings and shares it gets.
A good recovery for Lewis from last week's low. The equivalent episodes in 2009 and 2010 averaged 6.2m and 6.3m, so last night's figure was on a par with those. A solid result. Antiques Roadshow was dented but iirc it also suffered when it went up against Lewis last year, too. I think the last few weeks, having WTD after it, was helping it out in terms of viewers sticking to BBC1. Good rating for Countryfile before hand, a bit on the low side for the Royal Weddings documentary, I'd thought it'd have been the sort of thing to get a solid 4-5m.
Fantastic retention for The Walking Dead. I had a feeling it would hold a lot of its audience from last week for various reasons - C5 will be very pleased with that result. It's also good that the series is relatively short so that viewers are more likely to stick with it than a 22-parter like most American dramas.
A good recovery for Lewis from last week's low. The equivalent episodes in 2009 and 2010 averaged 6.2m and 6.3m, so last night's figure was on a par with those. A solid result. Antiques Roadshow was dented but iirc it also suffered when it went up against Lewis last year, too. I think the last few weeks, having WTD after it, was helping it out in terms of viewers sticking to BBC1. Good rating for Countryfile before hand, a bit on the low side for the Royal Weddings documentary, I'd thought it'd have been the sort of thing to get a solid 4-5m.
Fantastic retention for The Walking Dead. I had a feeling it would hold a lot of its audience from last week for various reasons - C5 will be very pleased with that result. It's also good that the series is relatively short so that viewers are more likely to stick with it than a 22-parter like most American dramas.
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“The Walking Dead skewed a lot younger compared to other dramas, if it increases tonight no doubt series 2 will be picked up. ”
“The Walking Dead skewed a lot younger compared to other dramas, if it increases tonight no doubt series 2 will be picked up. ”
It already has.
Originally Posted by rosco2010:
“It already has.”
“It already has.”
I think what Jonwo meant was, Channel 5 will pick up the second run rights to the 2nd season, which is due to air on AMC/FX later this year.
Royal wedding boring says NBC http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...te-boring.html
I have to say that there seems to be regional variations as well as age variations in the royal wedding interest. I get the feeling that rural areas are more interested (especially up north, than are urban areas). I've been up north recently and there seems to be quite a bit of interest out in the sticks.
I have to say that there seems to be regional variations as well as age variations in the royal wedding interest. I get the feeling that rural areas are more interested (especially up north, than are urban areas). I've been up north recently and there seems to be quite a bit of interest out in the sticks.
Good news everyone! BBC One has a new family sitcom called 'In with the Flynns' and is written by two of the My Family writers. However it's different - this is working class cos it's got Will Mellor in it. Thank God we'll have something to fill that gaping hole in our lives. http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...18/flynn.shtml
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“So you're too cool for the Royal yet admit to watching EastEnders.”
“So you're too cool for the Royal yet admit to watching EastEnders.”
because ive kept my viewing of EastEnders so secert in the past ?
I dont see the connection between the two.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Will be interesting to see how it does in Australia, where it's in primetime across all networks. ABC2 have even got The Chasers commentating.”
“Will be interesting to see how it does in Australia, where it's in primetime across all networks. ABC2 have even got The Chasers commentating.”
now that might peak my interest, I love The Chaser, and "The Chasers War On The Royal Wedding" could be good.
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Royal wedding boring says NBC http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...te-boring.html”
“Royal wedding boring says NBC http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...te-boring.html”
that will take NBC to use ITVs coverage
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“ that will take NBC to use ITVs coverage”
“ that will take NBC to use ITVs coverage
”
not sure what you mean? NBC aren't "taking" ITV's coverage of the event. They are (were) sending several hundred staff of their own.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“The reaction to the Royal Wedding on DS is starting to get on my nerves.
As soon as anyone suggests watching it, or even suggests discussing the coverage, dozens of people fall over themselves to say that they will definally not be watching, generally expressing this in the most extreme terms available.
It's all as if they are being cool and anti-establishment by saying they'd "rather poke themselves in the eye than watch".
How typical this forum is, I'm not sure.”
“The reaction to the Royal Wedding on DS is starting to get on my nerves.
As soon as anyone suggests watching it, or even suggests discussing the coverage, dozens of people fall over themselves to say that they will definally not be watching, generally expressing this in the most extreme terms available.
It's all as if they are being cool and anti-establishment by saying they'd "rather poke themselves in the eye than watch".
How typical this forum is, I'm not sure.”
It reminds me of the build-up to the VE50* celebrations in 1995 and the Golden Jubilee in 2002, both celebrated with extra bank holidays, public celebrations and wall to wall TV coverage, and both during hot spells as it happened. The sneering, Guardianista, metropolitan view was that the younger generations wouldn't give a toss, and frankly, most people would be out enjoying the extra holiday and it would all be a big flop. But both were massive triumphs, and genuine national events celebrated across the generations, with millions out on the streets of London and huge TV audiences.
I can't remember how VE50 rated, but the Golden Jubilee attracted massive daytime ratings for BBC1 all day, and less so for ITV1, and the culmination of the Bank Holiday Monday event was the Party at the Palace, which had been written off weeks in advance as likely to be embarrassingly naff and a huge turn-off. It attracted up to 15m at its peak, and would have averaged not far off that had ITV not scheduled Coro St against it.
(* - for younger readers, VE50 was the commeration of the 50th anniversary of the end (in Europe) of the Second World War.
Which we won...
)
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“There will be loads of street party's of course but thats just an excuse to get P*ssed and have a bit of fun”
“There will be loads of street party's of course but thats just an excuse to get P*ssed and have a bit of fun”
I think the street parties will be in the afternoon/evening after the wedding.
It would be a bit daft having a street party to celebrate the event, but schedule it for the same time and miss it!
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Royal wedding boring says NBC http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...te-boring.html
I have to say that there seems to be regional variations as well as age variations in the royal wedding interest. I get the feeling that rural areas are more interested (especially up north, than are urban areas). I've been up north recently and there seems to be quite a bit of interest out in the sticks.”
“Royal wedding boring says NBC http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...te-boring.html
I have to say that there seems to be regional variations as well as age variations in the royal wedding interest. I get the feeling that rural areas are more interested (especially up north, than are urban areas). I've been up north recently and there seems to be quite a bit of interest out in the sticks.”
I drove past a council estate in Manchester today where the residents had Union Flags and St George's crosses out en masse.
Of course, they may be holding a BNP or EDL rally...
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“not sure what you mean? NBC aren't "taking" ITV's coverage of the event. They are (were) sending several hundred staff of their own.”
“not sure what you mean? NBC aren't "taking" ITV's coverage of the event. They are (were) sending several hundred staff of their own.”
it is joint coverage between ITV, NBC, & ITN.
Originally Posted by ronant:
“Good news everyone! BBC One has a new family sitcom called 'In with the Flynns' and is written by two of the My Family writers. However it's different - this is working class cos it's got Will Mellor in it. Thank God we'll have something to fill that gaping hole in our lives. http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...18/flynn.shtml”
“Good news everyone! BBC One has a new family sitcom called 'In with the Flynns' and is written by two of the My Family writers. However it's different - this is working class cos it's got Will Mellor in it. Thank God we'll have something to fill that gaping hole in our lives. http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...18/flynn.shtml”
The press release makes it sound more promising than it did from your brief synopsis. Good range of quality talent involved - including Warren Clarke who has been away from our screens too long.
And Will Mellor who hasn't!
I notice from the press release links that Outnumbered s4 and Christmas special has now gone into production. Hooray!
Originally Posted by ronant:
“Good news everyone! BBC One has a new family sitcom called 'In with the Flynns' and is written by two of the My Family writers. However it's different - this is working class cos it's got Will Mellor in it. Thank God we'll have something to fill that gaping hole in our lives. http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...18/flynn.shtml”
“Good news everyone! BBC One has a new family sitcom called 'In with the Flynns' and is written by two of the My Family writers. However it's different - this is working class cos it's got Will Mellor in it. Thank God we'll have something to fill that gaping hole in our lives. http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...18/flynn.shtml”
Looks like they changed the name of the show. It was previously called 'Meet The Doyles' and had been announced over a year ago: http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2010/1...or_will_mellor
I think they filmed the series in January/February, following a pilot which was recorded last November.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“It reminds me of the build-up to the VE50* celebrations in 1995 and the Golden Jubilee in 2002, both celebrated with extra bank holidays, public celebrations and wall to wall TV coverage, and both during hot spells as it happened. The sneering, Guardianista, metropolitan view was that the younger generations wouldn't give a toss, and frankly, most people would be out enjoying the extra holiday and it would all be a big flop. But both were massive triumphs, and genuine national events celebrated across the generations, with millions out on the streets of London and huge TV audiences.
I can't remember how VE50 rated, but the Golden Jubilee attracted massive daytime ratings for BBC1 all day, and less so for ITV1, and the culmination of the Bank Holiday Monday event was the Party at the Palace, which had been written off weeks in advance as likely to be embarrassingly naff and a huge turn-off. It attracted up to 15m at its peak, and would have averaged not far off that had ITV not scheduled Coro St against it.
(* - for younger readers, VE50 was the commeration of the 50th anniversary of the end (in Europe) of the Second World War.
Which we won... )”
“It reminds me of the build-up to the VE50* celebrations in 1995 and the Golden Jubilee in 2002, both celebrated with extra bank holidays, public celebrations and wall to wall TV coverage, and both during hot spells as it happened. The sneering, Guardianista, metropolitan view was that the younger generations wouldn't give a toss, and frankly, most people would be out enjoying the extra holiday and it would all be a big flop. But both were massive triumphs, and genuine national events celebrated across the generations, with millions out on the streets of London and huge TV audiences.
I can't remember how VE50 rated, but the Golden Jubilee attracted massive daytime ratings for BBC1 all day, and less so for ITV1, and the culmination of the Bank Holiday Monday event was the Party at the Palace, which had been written off weeks in advance as likely to be embarrassingly naff and a huge turn-off. It attracted up to 15m at its peak, and would have averaged not far off that had ITV not scheduled Coro St against it.
(* - for younger readers, VE50 was the commeration of the 50th anniversary of the end (in Europe) of the Second World War.
Which we won...
)”
This is all very true. 12.3m across 4hr 15 on the Monday night - 15m at the peak at 11.00pm.
http://newsrss.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entert...io/2024971.stm
I don't think we can read anything into the ratings of these little build up documentaries. Had a glance through last nights on iPlayer and there seemed nothing there I hadn't seen before. I don't think it tells us anything about the wedding - just that people aren't lapping up the same images, quotes and soundbites that have been clogging up the news for the last few months. When something actually happens - the ratings could be a different story. There's almost no way of knowing.
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