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The John James & Josie Appreciation Thread (Part 164)
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bblover
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by JJJ lover:
“I agree but that's the situation they've found themselves in - in the middle of a TV programme - I'm just saying that it would be hard that's all.”

Of course it'll be.
Wendilums
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by PhiloP:
“Nearly caught up with you lot so just slow down a little bit and I'll be with you.

Just want to say that I posted something on the new facebook which was basically asking John if he was happy with the way it was going or was it meant as another chat room. Also said it would be nice to hear more from him and his loys and did he have any guidelines for how he would like to see it going.

It disappeared and pretty quickly too.

That means to me he is still away at 1.30 am and isreading through everything - tweets included - and can only assume he didn't like my post.

I'm wrong - its still there

xxx Phil”

Oh Phil you tease Hope you are well.

Wendy x
mysixkids
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by JJJ lover:
“I don't know what you mean (my head's fuddled).

Are you being sarcastic towards John? Help me!”

lol mine hurt's too im so with it all..I took that tweet that john sent about takin legal action if a mag miss quotes someone. Was about josie when she's said ok had got the headline wrong and they were only on a break..Im getting lost misen now.God the pair are hard work
OMG_its_Mackie
18-04-2011
Afternoon guys

I'm back been away for a since the evening of the 12th and I'm more confused then a penguin in the desert! Someone update me pretty please

Mackster x
truelovealways
18-04-2011
The whole FB is a hot mess. The boys hardly post anything on it and when they do all people do is post OTT adoration for them and don't ask them any questions. Plus the whole page has been taken over by the same like 20 people. If you check out the FB all the top posts are from the same people over and over again . I hope John goes back to twitter and just blocks the haters.
LittleGirlOf7
18-04-2011
Hang on. Was Josie in last week's OK! Mag?


Originally Posted by bblover:
“Glad you pointed that out!

Agree,didn't he say to her,he enjoyed looking after her or wtte,few weeks later?”

Originally Posted by JJJ lover:
“Excellent post - I'd never even thought of it like that - the suit made her vunerable and a little needy.”

Originally Posted by ferfer:
“Wow. That's VERY interesting. I can see it. I've always wondered what attracted him to her in that outfit and that fits.

I've been thinking the past few days Josie posting about doing things on her own, for herself. I think she likes that; that's when she's in control. And when she and John were together, she wasn't doing that. Now that she is alone again, it's like she has her control back.

But John did like taking care of her and wanting her to depend on him. He said it a few times. But Josie's used to only depending on herself. I think it was hard to give some of herself up to let him in. Did she do it? Was it not enough? Could she not take giving that up?

All very interesting!!!



But as John and we all need to remember, OK covers have never been true. And Josie has no control over what they decide to print there.

If Josie was so upset about the last interview, I don't get why she's done another. Unless she's under contract. Or she's not thinking clearly. ”


Yeah it's been rattling around in my head for a while, but couldn't articulate it for some reason then BAM!

Connecting it to the current situation it now seems clear to me that a simple case of lack of understanding on both sides has turned to anger and become a blow out. Give it a couple of months, let them cool down then they could maybe finally have a proper talk to each other.
lilywhite52
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by JJJ lover:
“I think you may well be right. She always said she's a strong person and this may well be true. But how much can someone take? She's gone from being a working girl struggling to make ends meet into BB where mainly everyone loved her but more importantly she thought she'd found the love of her life. Then she comes out and gets the most attention anyone has had from BB (ever I think) mainly positive but a few negative comments. These negatives she could brush off no problem because she had John (and as long as they knew what they had it didn't matter what everyone else said). Now though some of the people who loved her before (including the love of her life) are saying quite nasty things about her - that's much worse than them saying it straight away because if people don't like you from the beginning that's fair enough. She' and indeed her relationship has been put on a pedestal - and little by little that pedastal is being kicked away. If it continues she'll fall right off!

I'm sorry for sounding negative but a normal relationship breakdown is bad enough but to have that infront of 160,000 people it's an absolute nightmare.

I don't know if you've noticed she's gone quiet for a few hours - waiting to see if John retaliates I believe.”

Its ok to be negative its been par for the course latley, Im not really interested in why they broke up, or who done what and when thats the past but they both are intitled to a future and at the moment I am seriously concerned for Josie because she comes across all hard and uncaring but shes not she is hurt trying to let it all pass over her trying to hide behind the person we all grew to love and the cracks are beginning to show and how much more is she to take before the cracks turn to pieces that just cannot be put back together. Yeah some may say she bought it all on herself she should of done this she should of done that, none of us was in that relationship we dont know what went on and in all honesty I dont want to know.

Like I said I love them both and believe they are both hurting but at this time my concerns are with Josie and I hope she can find some resalution in her mind and move on. John needs this too we dont know how he is feeling and I wish we did maybe then some sense can be made out of all this. Love to both of them.xxxx
jones51
18-04-2011
Good afternoon everyone
Just wanted to wish the birthday girls best wishes
Feeling a little sad that people are going out of their way to make Josie so unloved.
The thing is that whatever we think we don't know all the facts, but one thing we do know is Josie has had to stay and get all the rubbish thrown at her.
Even if she had gone back to Bristol she would have still had to face things.
Now she is packing up the things they once shared to move to another place, it cant be easy.
I hope to goodness people can be a little more sensitive to them both and stop this s***e stirring.
There I feel better now......
Love to you all
Soph xxx
triplejfan79
18-04-2011
Evening threadlings how are we all this evening
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHALA AND KAYE.Hope ye are having a great day
Have read some wonderful posts always today.
tallulah gosh
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by jones51:
“Good afternoon everyone
Just wanted to wish the birthday girls best wishes
Feeling a little sad that people are going out of their way to make Josie so unloved.
The thing is that whatever we think we don't know all the facts, but one thing we do know is Josie has had to stay and get all the rubbish thrown at her.
Even if she had gone back to Bristol she would have still had to face things.
Now she is packing up the things they once shared to move to another place, it cant be easy.
I hope to goodness people can be a little more sensitive to them both and stop this s***e stirring.
There I feel better now......
Love to you all
Soph xxx”

You'd think so wouldn't you? Makes me soooooooo annoyed.
Jade =)
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by OMG_its_Mackie:
“Afternoon guys

I'm back been away for a since the evening of the 12th and I'm more confused then a penguin in the desert! Someone update me pretty please

Mackster x”

Welcome back Mackie!
circle game
18-04-2011
Your post is still there Phil!

Quote:
“As soon as she put the robot suit on she was suddenly vulnerable. She needed help. More importantly she had to ask for help. Who was there to look after her, take care of her every need, be there for her when she needed assistance? John. He was the only one to help her with anything. None of the other housemates in suits recieved such care and attention. John loved those couple of days where Josie was letting him look after her. He enjoyed the feeling of being the one to make her time in the suit easier, being there for her and breaking through that dominance.
”

Kelly I think you've pointed out something reallly significant there. Its a 'Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus' moment. John, like many men, wants to be the strong partner in the relationship, he loves it when Josie is totally reliant on him. Hence all the banter about her being less intelligent than him, and his obsession with doing so much for her after the show - I'm sure that she has benefited from all the OK shoots - I beleive he did do those for her.

And just maybe its part of the reason for the split. As Josie has become established (to a certain extent) in her OK TV job and with her perfume and clothing range (and I know this could just be short-lived flirtation with fame and sucess), she's been less dependent on John.....she hasn't needed him in the same way, and he feels lost and rejected. Unable to cope with these emotions, he's become less tolerant of the differences between them. Result: conflict, argument, fights.

One day, when they are both older and wiser, they just might be able to see this. I hope so, because I can't bear to think of them hating each other!
xx Mojo xx
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by Khyra:
“His aim is to prove that whatever his version of their story is he is right. Right in what not sure? My guess is the selling him out in the magazines. I hope in tomorrows magazine she proves him wrong. Whatever the game is that they are playing, he certainly has control doesn’t he? It’s stupid and childish.


Khyra ”



Afternoon everyone

Just catching up on everyones thoughts. Khyra BIB above, totally agree that John seems to have control, he has the power to stop all this upset but doesnt seem willing at the moment.

I may be eating my words tomorrow but I really dont think that Josie will 'sell him out' in the OK article and this is the one time I really do hope I'm right.
tallulah gosh
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by truelovealways:
“The whole FB is a hot mess. The boys hardly post anything on it and when they do all people do is post OTT adoration for them and don't ask them any questions. Plus the whole page has been taken over by the same like 20 people. If you check out the FB all the top posts are from the same people over and over again . I hope John goes back to twitter and just blocks the haters.”

*tries hard not to say anything about fb spammers*
JJJ lover
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by circle game:
“Your post is still there Phil!



Kelly I think you've pointed out something reallly significant there. Its a 'Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus' moment. John, like many men, wants to be the strong partner in the relationship, he loves it when Josie is totally reliant on him. Hence all the banter about her being less intelligent than him, and his obsession with doing so much for her after the show - I'm sure that she has benefited from all the OK shoots - I beleive he did do those for her.

And just maybe its part of the reason for the split. As Josie has become established (to a certain extent) in her OK TV job and with her perfume and clothing range (and I know this could just be short-lived flirtation with fame and sucess), she's been less dependent on John.....she hasn't needed him in the same way, and he feels lost and rejected. Unable to cope with these emotions, he's become less tolerant of the differences between them. Result: conflict, argument, fights.

One day, when they are both older and wiser, they just might be able to see this. I hope so, because I can't bear to think of them hating each other!”

Makes you wonder what he would do if she tweeted John James I'm sorry I need you please ring me.

What he would do?
tallulah gosh
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by xx Mojo xx:
“Afternoon everyone

Just catching up on everyones thoughts. Khyra BIB above, totally agree that John seems to have control, he has the power to stop all this upset but doesnt seem willing at the moment.

I may be eating my words tomorrow but I really dont think that Josie will 'sell him out' in the OK article and this is the one time I really do hope I'm right.”

Can someone go to tesco at midnight please I cant wait til tomorrow.
k182
18-04-2011
will John James get OK before us because he is ahead of us


Kaye
bblover
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by circle game:
“Your post is still there Phil!



Kelly I think you've pointed out something reallly significant there. Its a 'Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus' moment. John, like many men, wants to be the strong partner in the relationship, he loves it when Josie is totally reliant on him. Hence all the banter about her being less intelligent than him, and his obsession with doing so much for her after the show - I'm sure that she has benefited from all the OK shoots - I beleive he did do those for her.

And just maybe its part of the reason for the split. As Josie has become established (to a certain extent) in her OK TV job and with her perfume and clothing range (and I know this could just be short-lived flirtation with fame and sucess), she's been less dependent on John.....she hasn't needed him in the same way, and he feels lost and rejected. Unable to cope with these emotions, he's become less tolerant of the differences between them. Result: conflict, argument, fights.

One day, when they are both older and wiser, they just might be able to see this. I hope so, because I can't bear to think of them hating each other!”

Agree.John said Jose didn't make him feel wanted,in that damned Ok! interview.

Originally Posted by xx Mojo xx:
“Afternoon everyone

Just catching up on everyones thoughts. Khyra BIB above, totally agree that John seems to have control, he has the power to stop all this upset but doesnt seem willing at the moment.

I may be eating my words tomorrow but I really dont think that Josie will 'sell him out' in the OK article and this is the one time I really do hope I'm right.”

Don't think she will tbh,she will be advised not to,she still has things in the pipeline
JJJ lover
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by tallulah gosh:
“Can someone go to tesco at midnight please I cant wait til tomorrow. ”

Will they be in Asda after 12 or do they not change the stock in the morning?
bblover
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by JJJ lover:
“Makes you wonder what he would do if she tweeted John James I'm sorry I need you please ring me.

What he would do?”

Think he will.

Originally Posted by k182:
“will John James get OK before us because he is ahead of us


Kaye”

Do they get it in OZ?
ferfer
18-04-2011
[quote=bblover;49505518]Agree.John said Jose didn't make him feel wanted,in that damned Ok! interview.

[quote]

And she said the same. If that's all it took to fix this....man they totally annoy me.
jones51
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by circle game:
“Your post is still there Phil!



Kelly I think you've pointed out something reallly significant there. Its a 'Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus' moment. John, like many men, wants to be the strong partner in the relationship, he loves it when Josie is totally reliant on him. Hence all the banter about her being less intelligent than him, and his obsession with doing so much for her after the show - I'm sure that she has benefited from all the OK shoots - I beleive he did do those for her.

And just maybe its part of the reason for the split. As Josie has become established (to a certain extent) in her OK TV job and with her perfume and clothing range (and I know this could just be short-lived flirtation with fame and sucess), she's been less dependent on John.....she hasn't needed him in the same way, and he feels lost and rejected. Unable to cope with these emotions, he's become less tolerant of the differences between them. Result: conflict, argument, fights.

One day, when they are both older and wiser, they just might be able to see this. I hope so, because I can't bear to think of them hating each other!”

I agree with you, but we must all remember Josie has had to look after herself from a very young age. She found this love and affection John showed her different to anything anyone had showed her before. It's all so sad that things have worked out like they have.
bblover
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by ferfer:
“And she said the same. If that's all it took to fix this....man they totally annoy me. ”

Yup,sometime i have to laugh at all this going on tbh
xx Mojo xx
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by PhiloP:
“Nearly caught up with you lot so just slow down a little bit and I'll be with you.

Just want to say that I posted something on the new facebook which was basically asking John if he was happy with the way it was going or was it meant as another chat room. Also said it would be nice to hear more from him and his loys and did he have any guidelines for how he would like to see it going.

It disappeared and pretty quickly too.

That means to me he is still away at 1.30 am and isreading through everything - tweets included - and can only assume he didn't like my post.

I'm wrong - its still there

xxx Phil”

Hi Phil

There has been a lot to catch up on hasn't there. Not much in the way of good news either. I dont know anything about facebook, but from what i've read it does sound very confusing, and John seems to post as often as he did on twitter, I thought we were going to hear more from him.
Jade =)
18-04-2011
Originally Posted by k182:
“will John James get OK before us because he is ahead of us


Kaye”

No because they don't get it in Australia (well, they might but it'll be an Australian version with their celebrities in) If he wants to see the magazine he'll either have to find the transcript or photocopies of it on the internet or if he is still under some sort of management then they'll send it to him
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