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Keyplayer2010
20-04-2011
Originally Posted by Capablanca:
“I don't think I had the album, but I did see them at a 'psychedelic' bash at the Town & Country Club around '87.

I remember they did a great version of the Seeds' 'The Wind Blows Her Hair'.

XTC also did a 60s inspired psych album called '25 O'Clock' under the moniker of the Dukes Of Stratosphere. That got a fair bit of publicity with some cool posters asking 'What Time Is It?' pasted up around the town.

'New Rose' by the Damned is probably my fave punk single.”

I love garage/Pscyhedeia etc... some bands to check out are The Movements from Sweden and The Strollers also from Sweden just amazing bands.

Has anyone heard "Schools are Prisons" supposedly by The Sex Pistols although i beleive it was their producer Dave Goodman who made the record with some other musicians.

Its an awesome somg and to anyone sounds like Johnny, but he has said he has never heard of the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeSJ9loxFgI
CLL Dodge
20-04-2011
Are the Banshees punk?

I think I was more into post-punk, new wave & goth than the genuine punks.
Keyplayer2010
20-04-2011
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“Are the Banshees punk?

I think I was more into post-punk, new wave & goth than the genuine punks.”

Well like many punk bands they progressed to new wave/pop music.

The late 70's and early 80's had great pop music because most of the bands had punk either punk roots or punk influence on them.

It gave pop music in that era an edge that pop hasn't seen since.
mr muggles
20-04-2011
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“Are the Banshees punk?

I think I was more into post-punk, new wave & goth than the genuine punks.”

Dont get too hung up on labels. Punk was initially about the DIY ethos. Siouxsie has always been quite astute about what life was really like back then - shes a survivor but dosent look at the punk era with rose-tinted spectacles. Alot of the Bromley Contingent went dancing at discos (& loved it!), and though punk gives off a working class vibe, its more rooted in middle class alienation in suburbia.
Johnny Thunders & The New York Dolls played quite apart in punk too.
Siouxsie & Severin, to their credit, knew punk was a one trick pony and had the intelligence to evolve their music.
They also never put on that ridiculous 'working class roots' act that The Clash did either!
With The Banshees, it was genuinely, ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC. Most punk bands of the time were just glorified pub rock with pretend attitude.
mushymanrob
20-04-2011
Originally Posted by I love Ellie:
“People class The Stranglers as punk, although they pre-dated it.

.”

... true, but they werent averse to using the punk movement to promote themselves.

Originally Posted by Capablanca:
“'New Rose' by the Damned is probably my fave punk single.”

i think the damned and buzzcocks material has aged well, unlike most of their contemporaries

Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“Are the Banshees punk?

I think I was more into post-punk, new wave & goth than the genuine punks.”

siouxsie was there with the pistols on that infamous tv interview....it was her (as a punk) bill grundy was accused of letching at instigating a stream of (rather childish) four letter insults from members of the pistols...

Originally Posted by mr muggles:
“Dont get too hung up on labels. Punk was initially about the DIY ethos. Siouxsie has always been quite astute about what life was really like back then - shes a survivor but dosent look at the punk era with rose-tinted spectacles. Alot of the Bromley Contingent went dancing at discos (& loved it!), and though punk gives off a working class vibe, its more rooted in middle class alienation in suburbia.
Johnny Thunders & The New York Dolls played quite apart in punk too.
Siouxsie & Severin, to their credit, knew punk was a one trick pony and had the intelligence to evolve their music.
They also never put on that ridiculous 'working class roots' act that The Clash did either!
With The Banshees, it was genuinely, ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC. Most punk bands of the time were just glorified pub rock with pretend attitude.”

thats what i like about this site, there are some very eloquent members who can relate things better then i can! lol.

and dont forget siouxsies lasting legacy, her accidental creation of 'goth'.
neel
20-04-2011
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“i think the damned and buzzcocks material has aged well, unlike most of their contemporaries”

I would certainly agree with that sentiment, particularly in the case of the Damned.

I honestly think New Rose is the absolute high point of punk around that time, probably one of the all time high points of punk of any era or style.

Nice to see the influnce of the Doll's being mentioned. Thats one of my favourite things to bang on about.

mushymanrob
20-04-2011
Originally Posted by neel:
“I would certainly agree with that sentiment, particularly in the case of the Damned.

I honestly think New Rose is the absolute high point of punk around that time, probably one of the all time high points of punk of any era or style.

Nice to see the influnce of the Doll's being mentioned. Thats one of my favourite things to bang on about.

”

who?......
mushymanrob
20-04-2011
just for anyone who isnt familiar with the track 'new rose'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91rAHIb8BwY

and 'love song'... my fav
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m2JyiggwAU
neel
20-04-2011
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“who?...... ”

Funny I was thinking that about these "Sex Pistols" that everyone keeps going on about.

Just a dodgy Ramones tribute band?



While I'm on the subject, this video always makes me smile:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-fiY...eature=related

The Damned doing Pretty Vacant.
jackol
20-04-2011
Originally Posted by Keyplayer2010:
“Any old punks out there or people into it? i meam proper punk btw not Green day etc...

Been listening to some of these lately.

The Ruts, Sham69, Blitz and Peter and the testtube babies.

Wonderful gritty stuff, cleanses my soul from all these polished turds they call music these days.

I can say that as i'm an old grumpy git ”

Sham 69 fan here. "Thats Life" is still a brilliant concept album
Scratchy7929
20-04-2011
Originally Posted by I love Ellie:
“People class The Stranglers as punk, although they pre-dated it.

I think of them as a pumped up Doors.”

The keyboard playing was very Keith Emerson (ELP) sounding (not surprising really when he was an influence along with Ray Manzarek).Very Pronk (progressive punk) sounding band.

Dave Greenfield was in the Funky / Heavy Progressive Rock band Krakatoa before joining The Stranglers Krakatoa article
mushymanrob
21-04-2011
Originally Posted by neel:
“Funny I was thinking that about these "Sex Pistols" that everyone keeps going on about.

Just a dodgy Ramones tribute band?



.”



.... not to those of us who were there sonny!
Karl Rove
21-04-2011
Try Portlands own Fugazi Crackerbash.

Once Support Soundgarden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mms0cxYhCcU
Crystalline22
22-04-2011
The Saints - This Perfect day and River Deep Mountain High
The Tubes
The Lurkers
Magazine - Shot by both sides
The Normal - Warm Leatherette
The Sods - Copenhagen
Plastic Bertrand - Ca Plan Pour Moi (Belgium novelty punk)
Skids - Into the Valley and Working for the Yankee Dollar

all take me back to my schooldays
J6ngo1977
22-04-2011
I am an old Skool fan of 'Yank' punk. 'The Stooges' (Raw Power is a damned fine album) ,'The Ramones', 'MC5' but I love stuff like 'The Stranglers', 'The Buzzcocks', 'The Clash'.
Keyplayer2010
22-04-2011
Originally Posted by J6ngo1977:
“I am an old Skool 'Yank' punk fan. 'The Stooges' (Raw Power is a damned fine album) ,'The Ramones', 'MC5' but I love stuff like 'The Stranglers', 'The Buzzcocks', 'The Clash'.”

kick out the jams is a hell of a record and Ramblin Rose i should add.
J6ngo1977
22-04-2011
Originally Posted by I love Ellie:
“People class The Stranglers as punk, although they pre-dated it.

I think of them as a pumped up Doors.”

Good description that
J6ngo1977
22-04-2011
Originally Posted by Keyplayer2010:
“kick out the jams is a hell of a record and Ramblin Rose i should add.”

Yeh 'Kick out the Jams' is a top drawer album. 'Ramblin Rose' is a great song I also like modern day punk like 'The Hives'. I went to see them about 5 years ago and they blew me away. One of the best live bands I've seen.
J6ngo1977
22-04-2011
Just put 'Kick out the Jams' on my iPod. I havent listened to it for ages and it is awesome My god for a band to sound like that in the late 60s early 70s was absolutely alien and that 'Power to the people' attitude was great It's also an incredibly short album..8songs! and all short songs.
Keyplayer2010
27-04-2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6ZkJ...eature=related

Here are The Ruts live, man i wish i had seen been at this gig.
Gaditano
27-04-2011
Lots of memories in this thread. I was 18 in 1977 which was a stroke of luck! Live acts I saw around then included The Clash, The Jam, Ian Dury (not purely punk but he wouldn't have been successful without the punk ethos), Wreckless Eric (ditto), The Jam, The Vibrators, The Ramones.....great times.

Oh, and The Clash were using reggae SEVERAL years before The Members were even thought of.
Mike_1101
27-04-2011
Anyone remember
"Alberto Y Lost Trios Paranoias"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrQi66kxd-I
where are they now?
Gaditano
27-04-2011
Originally Posted by Mike_1101:
“Anyone remember
"Alberto Y Lost Trios Paranoias"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrQi66kxd-I
where are they now?”

One of them is a senior academic at Salford University!
Mike_1101
27-04-2011
Originally Posted by Gaditano:
“One of them is a senior academic at Salford University!”

It's a funny old world
Multimedia81
29-04-2011
Although my fave punk band were the Stranglers, my 2 fave punk songs were Buzzcocks with Ever Fallen in Love? and Sham 69 with Hurry Up Harry. It's songs like these that improved the music scene in 1978.
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