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Old 21-04-2011, 11:05
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Has anyone tried using the HDR with a Humax SCR lnb on a single cable? This should give full operation on a single cable without the need for two feed cables.

Hybrid scr/standard lnb here
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Humax-LNB-15.../dp/B003H4WMEI
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Old 21-04-2011, 11:16
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Not at £114.12 I won't be
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Old 21-04-2011, 11:23
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Not at £114.12 I won't be
Just over £44 here
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LNB-HUMAX-Tecn...-/400087931494
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Old 21-04-2011, 13:01
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I don't think the Humax PVR has SCR (Satellite Channel Router) capability. Only a limited number of STBs (mainly fta) seem to have it.
Saw on the Sky+ HD forum that someone had tried it on that and it didn't work.
My understanding from reading the LNBs specs is it is designed for using a standard non-SCR compatible STB on the one feed and the other feed is used to cascade up to 4 SCR compatible STBs.

http://www.mediasat.com/content.asp?L=3&IdMen=186
(model LNB 151 SCR is about halfway down the page)

See also:
http://binzou.com/2009/10/scr-lnb-satellite-channel/
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Old 21-04-2011, 13:07
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The Humac boxes do have scr capability.

The diseqc capability states SCD (Single Cable Distribution) which afaik is the same as unicable. The icord on which the hdr is based certainly has this capability.

However I remember Nigel Goodwin testing a hdr shortly after after launch with a scr lnb (imported from Germany).

As I remember it results were a bit mixed, hopefully Nigel will post more details.
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Old 21-04-2011, 15:21
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The Humax boxes do have scr capability.
The diseqc capability states SCD (Single Cable Distribution) which afaik is the same as unicable. The icord on which the hdr is based certainly has this capability.
They may have the capability but has it been activated? How do you access SCR or SCD? - there doesn't seem to be a menu option. Unless there is another secret menu or an Easter Egg we haven't found yet.

According to SES-Astra's fact sheet (admittedly a year old) the Humax Foxsats aren't on the list of SCD supporting devices.

http://www.ses-astra.com/resources/p...n_brochure.pdf
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Old 21-04-2011, 15:44
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They may have the capability but has it been activated? How do you access SCR or SCD? - there doesn't seem to be a menu option. Unless there is another secret menu or an Easter Egg we haven't found yet.

According to SES-Astra's fact sheet (admittedly a year old) the Humax Foxsats aren't on the list of SCD supporting devices.

http://www.ses-astra.com/resources/p...n_brochure.pdf
If you took the trouble to look there's lots of references on the net.


Setup is using the standard antenna setting options as detailed in lots of places including here.

http://www.astra2d.com/diseqc.html

From the manual

"When using a Motorised System, SCD Antenna (also known as Unicable), or SMATV please connect the
cable to LNB 1 IN."

An early attempt to use scr when such lnb's were as rare as hens teeth

http://labs.pcw.co.uk/2008/11/humax-foxsat-hd.html

A reference here to the Foxsat-HD

http://bbcfreesathdtvblog.blogspot.c...multi-sat.html

etc etc etc
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Old 21-04-2011, 23:00
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According to SES-Astra's fact sheet (admittedly a year old) the Humax Foxsats aren't on the list of SCD supporting devices.

http://www.ses-astra.com/resources/p...n_brochure.pdf
That list also does not include the three Sky HD boxes that support SCR (the Pace and Amstrad DRX890 and DRX895) so in no way can it be considered comprehensive
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Old 22-04-2011, 12:47
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If you took the trouble to look there's lots of references on the net.
Now now, don't get personal - I did take the trouble to do several Google searches and references to SCD are very limited and as the subject of this post was SCR and not SCD I didn't even consider the term SCD in the Humax manual (with which I am quite familiar). Furthermore, there are more references to SatCR on the web than to SCR, the former apparently being used to avoid confusion with many other SCR abbreviation topics. Or is the OP actually talking about Selective Catalytic Reduction ?

However I remember Nigel Goodwin testing a hdr shortly after after launch with a scr lnb (imported from Germany).
I think it was Nigel Whitfield, not Nigel Goodwin.
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Old 22-04-2011, 15:21
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I think it was Nigel Whitfield, not Nigel Goodwin.
I got the Nigel bit right .. scr covers a few different systems including the one used with multiswitch installations to allow up to two compatible sky pvrs on a single cable.

Stand alone systems like the one the hdr purports to support is normally called SCD or unicable as I referred to in my original post and is pretty clear that's what DM was enquiring about.

It was your comment about lack of support in the hdr/hd menus that was totally incorrect. Like diseqc support it's not giiven any coverage in the manual which is really aimed at Freesat only users.

I doubt Humax customer support is equipped to give support to the boxes more esoteric functions.

In any case there's nothing wrong with the OP, the box should support this mode of operation though it would seem pretty pointless using it with the single tuner hd for the average user.
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Old 23-04-2011, 19:53
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Has anyone tried using the HDR with a Humax SCR lnb on a single cable? This should give full operation on a single cable without the need for two feed cables.
I was going to try it, early on, but BobCat said that Humax didn't recommend it. I am tempted again, especially as the technology is now supported by Sky. If you finf out anything solid, let us know. (I'll do likewise.)
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