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Jason should win and he deserves to
SOTV
06-08-2004
Firstly I'm not a jason fan but I'll supoort him because he was Victor's mate in the house and I can't stand the others that are left.

I never thought he stood much of a chance of winning but it seems very likely now. Nadia may have the biggest percentage at the moment but I cannot see her attracting votes from fan's of the the other HMs as they are evicted.

Jason is probably the only one who can attract voters over as the others have too many attributes that would prevent your average person voting for them (the reasons for Nadia are obvious, as are those for Dan if you take your PC hat off and Shell is just too bland to entice anyone to pick up the phone tonight).

It may be un-PC but that fact remains that normal people will not vote for a person with Nadia's history, and they certainly won't vote for Nadia when that 'history' is being sold as the sole reason to vote ('Survivor' 'brave' etc. etc. what a load of absolute rubbish).

The only question that remains is whether fan's of other HMs will 'defect' to Jason to ensure that we don't have a weirdo winning BB this year. If more people were aware that voting Jason is the only way to stop Endemol from picking the winner each year then I think he'd already be ahead. I think they will and, combined with Jason attracting votes from fans of other Hms, he will scrape a narrow win tonight.

I just hope that the masses have stopped voting now thinking Nadia has won and that we see the rest of us, who can form our own judgments based on good morals and logic, vote in any way that prevents a Nadia win.
welwynrose
06-08-2004
sorry "normal people will not vote for a person with Nadia's history, "
& "ensure that we don't have a weirdo winning BB this year" - I for one am a normal person with a normal job a normal family and a normal life and would quite happily see Nadia win
Mr Blonde
06-08-2004
Stunning post SOTV...and you are probably right...jason will pick up all the floating voters and the votes of the evicted housemates...i just hope that is enough to make him the winner...
SOTV
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by welwynrose:
“sorry "normal people will not vote for a person with Nadia's history, "
& "ensure that we don't have a weirdo winning BB this year" - I for one am a normal person with a normal job a normal family and a normal life and would quite happily see Nadia win”

We appear to disagree on the definition of the word 'Normal' then.
SOTV
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by Mr Blonde:
“Stunning post SOTV...and you are probably right...jason will pick up all the floating voters and the votes of the evicted housemates...i just hope that is enough to make him the winner...”

Damn, I never thought I'd agree with someone like you.

Nevermind though, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
welwynrose
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by SOTV:
“We appear to disagree on the definition of the word 'Normal' then.”

please educate me then to your defintion of normal - who is a normal person according to the dictionary the definition is

"Conforming with, adhering to, or constituting a norm, standard, pattern, level, or type; typical:"
chrisdebag
06-08-2004
jason has moaned swore sniffed for 10 weeks he hasnt joined in he has been the worst housemate

why people r voting for him is a total mystery

he is going to have a lot of boos
SOTV
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by welwynrose:
“please educate me then to your defintion of normal - who is a normal person according to the dictionary the definition is

"Conforming with, adhering to, or constituting a norm, standard, pattern, level, or type; typical:"”

Unfortunately, due to the rules of this forum, I cannot answer your question. Suffice to say 'Normal' would not describe the majority of posters on this forum (myself included lol) or those that make up the rules.
alisonrose3764
06-08-2004
Where do you get off calling Nadia 'weird' - live and let live I say - people like you may be sad you really do!
welwynrose
06-08-2004
I would point out that not one person who has ever gone into BB could be considered "normal" - most "normal" people would not be prepared to expose their whole lives on national tv - so if you don't want someone who isn't "normal" to win BB - you're going to be out of luck
bigmadmental
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by welwynrose:
“I would point out that not one person who has ever gone into BB could be considered "normal" - most "normal" people would not be prepared to expose their whole lives on national tv - so if you don't want someone who isn't "normal" to win BB - you're going to be out of luck”

I don't think SOTVs choice of words was great but you would be hard pushed to argue a case that Nadia is an average member of the female population. But this has helped her through the popularity contest as everyone loves an underdog.

If you want to see who an average person is look no further than Stu.
SOTV
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by alisonrose3764:
“Where do you get off calling Nadia 'weird' - live and let live I say - people like you may be sad you really do!”

I can form my own judgements about what is weird and what isn't whenever I want thanks, I have deemed Nadia to be weird and the vast majority of people would agree with me.

'Live and Let live' is a wonderful idea isn't it?, does it apply to murderers, thieves and child abusers too? sometimes you have to draw a line in the sand and say 'this isn't right', I draw my line here, maybe you draw yours a little bit further down the road, that is your right but I think you are leaving it too late.

Also seeing as you believ in 'live and let live' shouldn't you tolerate the opinions of others too?

As you can see, your post is badly flawed.
SOTV
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by welwynrose:
“I would point out that not one person who has ever gone into BB could be considered "normal" - most "normal" people would not be prepared to expose their whole lives on national tv - so if you don't want someone who isn't "normal" to win BB - you're going to be out of luck”

I didn't say that though did I. I was discussing which way normal people would vote, not saying I wanted a 'normal' person to win. You don't see any 'normal' people on Big Bro anyway, you have to be ignorant, extrovert or a desperate fame-seeker to go on in the first place.
athena2004
06-08-2004
nadia To Win!!!

jason To Go He Is Boring And Evil
welwynrose
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by SOTV:
“I can form my own judgements about what is weird and what isn't whenever I want thanks, I have deemed Nadia to be weird and the vast majority of people would agree with me.

'Live and Let live' is a wonderful idea isn't it?, does it apply to murderers, thieves and child abusers too? sometimes you have to draw a line in the sand and say 'this isn't right', I draw my line here, maybe you draw yours a little bit further down the road, that is your right but I think you are leaving it too late.

Also seeing as you believ in 'live and let live' shouldn't you tolerate the opinions of others too?

As you can see, your post is badly flawed.”

don't worry I've formed my own opinion on you as well - and going by the straw poll I've taken where I work in a normal/average office with normal/average people most people here would not be upset if Nadia won - they would be more upset if Jason won
bigmadmental
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by welwynrose:
“and going by the straw poll I've taken where I work in a normal/average office with normal/average people most people here would not be upset if Nadia won - they would be more upset if Jason won”

Unless it was a secret ballot you have probably biased that poll
welwynrose
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by bigmadmental:
“Unless it was a secret ballot you have probably biased that poll ”

sorry not a secret ballot - didn't have time to organise that - but asked the 10 people I share an office with (ages 18-44) would you be happy for Dan/Jason/Nadia/Shell to win BB - Nadia got the most positive repsonses - Jason the least
bigmadmental
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by welwynrose:
“sorry not a secret ballot - didn't have time to organise that - but asked the 10 people I share an office with (ages 18-44) would you be happy for Dan/Jason/Nadia/Shell to win BB - Nadia got the most positive repsonses - Jason the least”

Could I get a pie chart of the voting breakdown? After seeing Dave Gorman, I have a thing for charts and graphs.

Did Jason get a single vote? That would be at least 10%
SOTV
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by welwynrose:
“don't worry I've formed my own opinion on you as well - and going by the straw poll I've taken where I work in a normal/average office with normal/average people most people here would not be upset if Nadia won - they would be more upset if Jason won”

To aid your analysis I have taken a similar poll in my office, Jason won 4-1 with one spolit ballot paper from some idiot who doesn't like Big Brother.
Stewing
06-08-2004
I want j to win and have a chance to have a happy life for once..he has had a truly crap life and no-one says a word..least of all him..ten out f ten to him for not playing it up for press unlike that toxic Nadia going on and on and on and the media hype and spin..makes me vomit..J...please let the guy have a break..his life has been awful so far..I turly feel like mthering him all better..I hope his birth mother turns up and that he is pleasded to finally meet her...off stage hopefully...as it iwll be a huge shock for him...
Bunny on crack
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by athena2004:
“nadia To Win!!!

jason To Go He Is Boring And Evil”

Are you taking the piss?
Stewing
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by athena2004:
“nadia To Win!!!

jason To Go He Is Boring And Evil”

You do not have to shout and Nadia is even more of all that tan J..she is a manipulating bitch..and dressed like a art too much damn fat flesh...and moody and selfish..yuk..horrible peice of work..so hhtere
Stewing
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by alisonrose3764:
“Where do you get off calling Nadia 'weird' - live and let live I say - people like you may be sad you really do!”

Well if indeed you believe that then leave J alone and let him try and pick up the peices from his lousy life..or does his not count because it got no frigging press..you people make me puke..all this pretence of being so liberal about tx etc etc etc...hypocties most of you I bet...so live ad let live and leave J alone from your venom outpourings..she is weird by the way... but NOT because of the op....
welwynrose
06-08-2004
Originally Posted by Stewing:
“Well if indeed you believe that then leave J alone and let him try and pick up the peices from his lousy life..or does his not count because it got no frigging press..you people make me puke..all this pretence of being so liberal about tx etc etc etc...hypocties most of you I bet...so live ad let live and leave J alone from your venom outpourings..she is weird by the way... but NOT because of the op....”

is it not Nadia fault that her story has got more press coverage than Jason's - that is the fault of the tabloid press and personally I don't feel than Jason's life is more lousy than a lot of people
Kewpee
06-08-2004
Quote:
“Originally poted by SOTV

>snip<

Jason is probably the only one who can attract voters over as the others have too many attributes that would prevent your average person voting for them (the reasons for Nadia are obvious, as are those for Dan if you take your PC hat off and Shell is just too bland to entice anyone to pick up the phone tonight).”

If you are a fan of Shell or Dan and they get evited before Jason and Nadia, you will then pick up the phone for?

Jason? The man who stood in the garden the other night and told Dan and Shell that he had nothing in common with them, he also told all of us in the DR what he thinks of the other in the house. He has had issues with Shell about her being too opinionated, and constantly tells Dan that he's an arse licker.

or

Nadia? Friends with Shell and Dan since Marco left.

Hard choice eh?

I'm voting Dan and if he leaves then I will vote Nadia. I'm an 'average' person who judges the HMs on what they do to entertain me and how they treat others in the house. I do not find any of them 'wierd', just human beings with all the usual failings.
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