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Spotify - 5 listens and then blocked
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M. Tourette
23-04-2011
Spotify is going to allow you to listen to a track five times then your blocked it seems for life, never to listen to that track again

Now I have a question do you have to listen to part of the track to qualify or is it the whole track,

If you are searching for a track click to see if it is the right one listen for five seconds then stop it to then listen to another track - is this classed as one of your five?

Personally five times in a month or six months would be fine but blocked for life seems draconian.
what do you think?
mangomoon
23-04-2011
I thought it was 5 times each month?
ellenpagerocks
23-04-2011
It's usually about 30 seconds
redlight79
24-04-2011
Yeah, it's 5 times per month. But I only registered last week so I've still got mine for another 6 more months after the new rule comes into place

However, the new cap is that you can only listen to a maximum of 10 hours per month. I'm only using the service to listen to albums once or twice, and if I like them enough, I'll buy the CD off of Amazon
MD1500
24-04-2011
I thought the problem was was that it was 5 times forever.

Listen to a track twice now, three times in 30 years time, and you're not allowed to hear it again?
Ramsay Ladders
24-04-2011
This won't include premuim members I hope?

Edit: No it doesn't. Seems like a ploy to get free users to convert to premium membership.
stud u like
24-04-2011
Fascism for you! Best avoided.
JethroUK
24-04-2011
Originally Posted by MD1500:
“I thought the problem was was that it was 5 times forever.

Listen to a track twice now, three times in 30 years time, and you're not allowed to hear it again?”

Supose you could always buy CD
iain
24-04-2011
exactly - i don't know what the problem is.

unless 'not getting everything for free' actually does = fascism.

even with 5 free listens, spotify is a still great service for checking out stuff before you buy.

Iain
TelevisionUser
24-04-2011
Originally Posted by MD1500:
“I thought the problem was was that it was 5 times forever.

Listen to a track twice now, three times in 30 years time, and you're not allowed to hear it again?”

So did l, MD1500. That point's a bit ambiguous and I guess we'll only find out by trying. It's highly restrictive because I can listen to a track l like that many times in one session .

In addition to resigning up every six months, there might be another way round by playing the track and then stopping it just before it ends and pulling back the dot in the play indicator slot back to the beginning and starting off again so th track's never officially logged as being played more than one time.

There are something like 162 pages of mostly adverse comments http://www.spotify.com/se/blog/archi...ify-free-open/ following Spotify's announcement and it appears many of them will be going to the likes of We7, Deezer and Grooveshark instead because of the restrictions that they'll be imposing.
Dakota.
24-04-2011
I made a thread on this a couple weeks back, most people were fine with the change. I'm using Grooveshark more these days.
Keyplayer2010
24-04-2011
Blimey we may have to actually start paying for music again.
redlight79
24-04-2011
I've decided I'm going to get either an iPod touch or iPhone later on this year, so when I do get it, I'll start paying the tenner a month. Unlimited songs on the iPhone? That's £10 well spent in my opinon.
Keyplayer2010
01-05-2011
I wish they'd block Mark Goddiers girly voice in the ads out, everytime i hear that man i want to pull out my teeth.
ags_rule
01-05-2011
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“There are something like 162 pages of mostly adverse comments http://www.spotify.com/se/blog/archi...ify-free-open/ following Spotify's announcement and it appears many of them will be going to the likes of We7, Deezer and Grooveshark instead because of the restrictions that they'll be imposing.”

Yes, and when everybody does that, then We7, Deezer and Grooveshark will have to start imposing limitations.

The Spotify business model was unsustainable, this was an obvious next step. It's now what the labels - and artists for that fact - always wanted it to be, which is a free preview program. Listen to an artists album and if you like it, either buy it or sign up to the unlimited/premium services.
Cleo565
01-05-2011
I've been a free user for ages. Now it comes up with two options for "upgrading" and says existing free users can continue to use it to check out new music. But the options page covers the screen and won't close until I exit the site- so we can't continue to use anything!

Well done Spotify, if everybody were to upgrade then nobody would have to listen to the adverts and their revenue would plummet. Is that good business sense?
Last edited by Cleo565 : 01-05-2011 at 21:20
Kablamo
01-05-2011
Spotify is ok for the average individual who wants to listen to regular music but for a real fan it's nothing spectacular at all.
urt31
01-05-2011
Originally Posted by Cleo565:
“I've been a free user for ages. Now it comes up with two options for "upgrading" and says existing free users can continue to use it to check out new music. But the options page covers the screen and won't close until I exit the site- so we can't continue to use anything!

Well done Spotify, if everybody were to upgrade then nobody would have to listen to the adverts and their revenue would plummet. Is that good business sense?”

Yes, a consistent £10 a month income is far more sustainable than fractions of a penny per ad.
Cleo565
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by urt31:
“Yes, a consistent £10 a month income is far more sustainable than fractions of a penny per ad.”

Only if enough people get conned into subscribing. £10 a month may seem reasonable to some but to a pensioner with a limited income it's goodbye to Spotify from me.
ags_rule
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by Cleo565:
“Only if enough people get conned into subscribing. £10 a month may seem reasonable to some but to a pensioner with a limited income it's goodbye to Spotify from me.”

It's £5 a month just to listen to unlimited music with no ads. £10 a month is for premium which has a few extra bells and whistles, like offline playlists and accessing it from your smartphone.

Some people feel like they deserve free music for nothing. A fiver a month is absolute pittance for unlimited streaming, when you consider that a new release costs double that and the average track costs between £0.69 and £0.89 to download.

Well done Spotify, it was a very smart business decision that should secure them that US deal they've been after.
ags_rule
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by Kablamo:
“Spotify is ok for the average individual who wants to listen to regular music but for a real fan it's nothing spectacular at all.”

What are you on about? Are you suggesting that 'real fans' don't listen to music regularly?
bob_fossil
03-05-2011
Originally Posted by Kablamo:
“Spotify is ok for the average individual who wants to listen to regular music but for a real fan it's nothing spectacular at all.”

What do you mean? What's regular music?
Glawster2002
03-05-2011
Originally Posted by Kablamo:
“Spotify is ok for the average individual who wants to listen to regular music but for a real fan it's nothing spectacular at all.”

I'd be interested to hear what your definition of "regular" music is. I went to see a band recently and I'd read that both support bands, Enochian Theory and Jurojin, were well worth checking out. Before the gig I looked on Spotify and both bands albums were availabler to listen to, but then perhaps you include young, neo-prog rock bands as "regular music" that would interest the "average individual" rather than music for a "real fan".
Hopper's mum
04-05-2011
We used their 'Day Pass' for 99p as music for our son's birthday party last year and it was brilliant.

I won't be upgrading, it's more hassle but I'll put my CDs on instead.
glyn9799
04-05-2011
Well I've splashed out and paid £9.99 for unlimited

I normally buy so many CDs and used Spotify Basic almost daily so figured i'd get my moneys worth of a tenner. I particularly love the fact i can sync it with my iPod. The only downside is my iPod is 2G which means if i'm listening to the Spotify app I can't do anything else. Apparently newer iPods allow multiple apps to run at once

People moaning about these new restrictions need to think about the bigger picture. Spotify is fantastic and i'm suprised they have left it this long to start limiting access. It is a business after all.


Originally Posted by Kablamo:
“Spotify is ok for the average individual who wants to listen to regular music but for a real fan it's nothing spectacular at all.”

What crap. Does the OP want to clarify the definition of a 'real fan'
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