OMG....... I have finally caught up......Really tough going that.....but it just tells me I was always right about sh*tshine!!!.....Attention seeker....who wants John and would lick the crud between his toes to get him!!!!

One thing that sticks in my head....is obviously the loys have been talking and that is where the 14 year old got it from.....lessons to be learnt there I think.......But how come he said John ended it????.......John said Josie said it...who do we believe???.......My head hurts!!!

Everyone really needs to grow up at least the teenager on facebook last night was really only 14- whats everyones elses excuse

BIB i agree with so much. If their so called friends would back of they may find it in themselves to talk but if other people keep get involved in something that has nothing to do with them it will only get worse.

With regard to Sunshine I cannot stand her never have never will. She wants John.

This Bristolden person i do not get is supposed to be grown women but acts like a child at times. unfollows John then refollows - what for if she does not like him. Must have reason I think.

i wonder if kaths family will be on again soon to lie and pretend kath wasnt insinuating he was gay at all?

I think she is just thick to be perfectly honest

What is being said on Facebook to John not apologising to Josie? Is he on the now?

Joking aside I agree with you. Any hints re John's sexuality is completely out of order. The hankie thing well people will have a field day putting their own interpretation on that.

Although to be honest I did feel performance was going to end up being mentioned at sometime, I hope this is not the start.

It is within both of John and josie's powers to call a truce, tell their friends to butt out and reach an acceptable way of going forward for them both.

Josie and John are not innocents in all this, they are both as bad as eachother, they have the power to change it and start being more adult about their situation and respectful about what they shared and had together.

Well said! It's all way out of hand and unnecessary.

no sure as im not part of the group

Agree totally all their friends need to but it has nothing to do with them it is between John and Josie

Nothing really someone has just said john did not apologise to Josie just the group and now all the john james fans are saying leave him alone dont mention josie etc

I was disgusted at that tweet and to say Josie thought it was funny I found appaulling and very dissapointing..

That woman I find is the most common irritating person I have ever come across... she makes me feel embarrassed 'for her' if that makes sense.

These two women obviously don't care about Josie at all. And as I said last night, there are consequences for things that people say and do. And you don't get to control those.

**** me.

Morning all. Glad I missed the overnight drama. There are too many 'outside' people too involved in Josie and John's lives. Why do they think they have a right to say anything about anything?

I am curious about one thing - can anyone tell me what John said about qwerty please?

Thanks - I would like to see him apologise as it is a step forward not backwards like all the crap that is going around

Morning guys! I found Johns tweet yesterday about Sunshine funny, but it seems like everythings got out of hand now Why Sunshine feels the need to get involved I have no idea, apart from the fact she obviously wants attention. There's really no need for her to say Josie has no class etc, when Josie hasn't made any comments about her.

As for the comment that Geraint's brother made, pretty disgusting. I'm glad John apologised on behalf of him and said sorry to anyone who was offended, but I agree that it seems like he can't even mention Josie's name atm. I've seen a couple of people saying that John basically said if you want to slag Josie off then do it on Twitter rather than Facebook. Personally, I didn't take it that way. I just thought he meant that the group wasn't set up to hate on anyone, and if people want to do that then they can p*ss off from the FB group and do it on Twitter. I don't think he meant slag Josie off on Twitter, I think he just meant general hate. I might be wrong, but that's my take on it anyway.

No idea why Bristolden felt the need to post what she just did on Twitter - too far and completely unneccesary in my opinion. I wish both of their friends would just stay out of it, immature comments like the ones that Bristolden and Geraint's brother have made are only going to make the situation a whole lot worse.

OH and as for Grom Kath insinuating John is gay, she needs to keep thoughts like that to herself. Not funny at all really

Agreed

see its twitter that is the problem and certain people have no idea how to use it. We all make crude jokes and say things in spite or just for a laugh. When i am out with my friends some of what is said is disgusting and if our partners heard some of it would be grounds for divorce. However they dont hear because it is kept among ourselves and not broadcasted over twitter for strangers to read. Things written down always look worse thats why josies friend is out of order she should have had a laugh but not post about it on twitter. Some people have no class at all

My take on John saying go to twitter to slag I feel the same as you. Not to slag Josie but to slag anything in general. It is all getting well out of hand I feel that this young couple can never be able to talk to each other ever again because of all the interfering and things being said. Which is a shame

This whole break up is very depressing but i guess we watched a real couple fall in love in a public arena and so we watch a real couple break up with all the ugliness and wretchedness that accompanies any split. Sadly also in the public arena.

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Well I've tried to keep up but I think things are getting all out of proportion.

A young lad said somethings he shouldn't. At 14 he will know nothing about relationships and what makes people tick. We have many debates trying to understand John and Josie so he won't have a clue.

The lad dug a hole and he probably doesn't know how to get out of it. John and his brother told him off and they clearly believe what he did was wrong. I should think the young lad in question has learnt his lesson.

Josie is a grown up she should see it for what it is and that John has stepped in and tried to sort it.

John's joke yesterday was funny however I think that sunshine carrying on re calling qwerty John is a step too far and I'm sure that John wont be behind this.

I do agree that sunshine must have known from past experience that if she got involved she would get a load of unpleasant tweets.

Josie I don't think is the innocent victim either. The implying qwerty was John and the talk of the supporter needing professional help was not necessary.

The retweeting of platitudes is totally unnecessary and meaningless. Everyone believes the retweets indicate how she is feeling but that is what she wants. She is clearly going for the sympathy vote and if you read her retweets from yesterday as well and take them as an indication of how she is feeling then she is not accepting her role in the breakdown of the relationship either.

The retweets are not her saying things so she can't be accused of lying but she is leading people to the impression she is the victim in all this.

Josie is not victim. John is not a victim. They destroyed their relationship together. No one else just them. They obviously don't think it's worth saving and they don't appear to think a friendship is worth saving.

So its not John's friends fault, it's not josies's friends fault, it is John and josie's faults.

So maybe we should stop dissecting others and accept it's them. This is John and Josie, this is how they chose to behave, this is how they chose to resolve things or not.
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Forgot how to repost from previous thread. Hope you don't mind me bringing this over, jjjfinny. Thought it summed the whole silly situation perfectly without being all dramatic about it. Thanks, Kay x

Why do you think the person keeps making comments implying John is gay? What is behind this? I don't want to make too much of it but it keeps being mentioned. Josie must know and hopefully should feel that it is not fair so why hasn't she asked for these comments not to be made given that they are being made from a close family friend?

Well TBF if you found such a thing while packing up your home you would either laugh or cry.
I might well pop it into an envelope and send it on !!!

However, for Josie's Mother's classless friend to tweet about it is quite something else - so totally uncalled for and very vulgar.
GromKath is just cross for Josie - I think her tweets stem from genuine affection, she doesn't like to see her hurt or hurting. So she goes for John's throat - again sadly unwise and shouldn't be on twitter at all, but I understand at least where she is coming from.

Saw this in a tweet to John and thought it quite appropriate.

someone wave the white flag before we hit an all-time low. U don't hav 2be friends but u don't hav 2be enemies x

hope he sees it- should be tweeted to Josie aswell