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Lady Gaga falls to #17 in midweeeks
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shackfan
27-04-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Fahrenheit:
“Lady GaGa Bashing Thread #5869756392856492.

Considering she hasn't done one thing for this at all - no video, no promo, etc. I think it's doing fine. Once she gets to work it'll climb.”

But everyone knows it is out. Promoting it a bit more wont help. Face it, these 2 singles arent as good as the last bunch.
Wonder what the bookies would have given for the first 2 singles from GaGa and Take That not getting to no.1
RaiseItUp
27-04-2011
It's a shame that the song isn't setting the charts alight but I adore the song and I adored BTW and I'm just happy that I'm getting new music!

Once she comes over and performs/promotes, it'll rise and rise, I'm sure!
Paparazzo
27-04-2011
Originally Posted by RaiseItUp:
“It's a shame that the song isn't setting the charts alight but I adore the song and I adored BTW and I'm just happy that I'm getting new music!

Once she comes over and performs/promotes, it'll rise and rise, I'm sure!”

I agree, I think that if you enjoy a song then it shouldn't matter if it doesn't chart badly (which they haven't) but everyone else seems to disagree.
x_bibs93_x
27-04-2011
Everyone seems to be acting like Judas has fallen to #117 or something. With no promo it was bound to fall a bit, and the fact that a lot of people know its out already is indicated that its already gone top 10 with no promo at all.
Last edited by x_bibs93_x : 27-04-2011 at 21:24
Mr. Fahrenheit
27-04-2011
Originally Posted by shackfan:
“But everyone knows it is out. Promoting it a bit more wont help. Face it, these 2 singles arent as good as the last bunch.
Wonder what the bookies would have given for the first 2 singles from GaGa and Take That not getting to no.1”

What do you mean ''Promoting It A Bit More Won't Help''?

Promo always helps, unless the song is dead. This hasn't been out that long.
Josh Pinder
27-04-2011
to be honest, not that many will know Judas yet! i mean it is more cult following atm. The video and more airplay is what will help it and then if she eprforms over ehre.....top 5 most definitely!

It is her best single, tbh i hated most of The Fame as it sounded a lot like demos and Monster you can split in half.

Born This Way will be a masterstroke in her career as a concept album! phenomenal...why the negativity....just ****in dance already!!
sambryan-26
27-04-2011
Going to have another moan about On Air, On Sale... it doesn't work, Britney, Beyonce and Gaga should released their singles a few weeks after the video being out like JLO did, BTW would have probabally been #1 and HIAM would have been Top 3
konebyvax
27-04-2011
Invisipost...
toanythingtaboo
27-04-2011
I know plenty of people who are only JUST becoming aware of Born This Way, months after it's release, let alone Judas.

Unless you pay attention to her, or media sites, or listen to a lot of top 40 radio...you are unlikely to stumble across it.
gagaluv
27-04-2011
Originally Posted by scratchy23:
“Oh come off it, do you honestly believe that's why radio stations haven't been playing it much? It's because it's such a naff song!

Judging by your logic, radio stations will have stop fearing condemnation from Christians and would have started playing it Tuesday onwards. Well, it's Wednesday now and I haven't heard it much... might be because it's a terrible song?

Or is there another excuse you could use. Perhaps because it's April? Or because it's sunny? Or because the sky's blue?”

Gosh, no need to be rude. I'm just saying what I think. And I actually hardly heard it at all last week but since yesterday I have heard being played regularly. Capital hardly played it last week but today, I've heard it 8 or 9 times. Whatever, she'll be over in May and then the album release will be huge. From the reviews so far, it sounds amazing. I'm just happy to hear the album, a good chart position is just an added bonus.
hullaballoo
27-04-2011
Originally Posted by sambryan-26:
“Going to have another moan about On Air, On Sale... it doesn't work, Britney, Beyonce and Gaga should released their singles a few weeks after the video being out like JLO did, BTW would have probabally been #1 and HIAM would have been Top 3”

Definitely agree...star power isn't enough any more.
domesticated
28-04-2011
Career = toilet I'm afriad...so far it has been pi55 poor and she really needs to bring something out of the bag. Sorry, but i'm just not into the new stuff and I have gone off her slightly too.
gagarules86
28-04-2011
LMAO at people saying she's done.
toanythingtaboo
28-04-2011
She might as well give up if she's under-performing in the UK.

Doesn't matter that she spent 6 weeks at #1 with BTW in the US. She's done. Everyone hates her.
Califa
28-04-2011
Originally Posted by gagarules86:
“LMAO at people saying she's done.”

I know! Other artists have had weak chart performances but they're not going down the drain anytime soon are they?

People are just desperate to see the end of some singers, it's quite silly.

Gaga is here, and until the day she has extremely weak album sales and can't sell out an arena she will be staying here in weirder and much scarier clothing.
dirrrty
28-04-2011
It's not surprising since her music just isn't as good as her last era, though this will rise once the vid is out and she goes to UK soon.
gagarules86
28-04-2011
Originally Posted by Califa:
“I know! Other artists have had weak chart performances but they're not going down the drain anytime soon are they?

People are just desperate to see the end of some singers, it's quite silly.

Gaga is here, and until the day she has extremely weak album sales and can't sell out an arena she will be staying here in weirder and much scarier clothing.”

Exactly. I just think people are too fickle these days.
KieranDS
28-04-2011
Originally Posted by pikeur:
“I think the performance of judas is a little exaggerated yet,she hasnt done promo, it was rush released due to it been leaked, if she does promo and mix that with the video and increased airplay i can see judas selling quiet well. Many people have said the same about born this way but so far in the uk alone it has built up quiet decent sales and is still selling.

Yes the quality of the music isnt as good as her previous era but realistically it was always going to be very hard to beat. Judas has still managed to go top 10 with zero promotion so that says something.”

It wasn't leaked. It was all part of the marketing strategy.
Judas betrayed Jesus 4 days before Easter, the song ''leaked'' 4 days before it was due to be released.
batman.
28-04-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Fahrenheit:
“Lady GaGa Bashing Thread #5869756392856492.”

It's not really bashing though is it? Stating that it dropped in the charts is a fact, it's not debatable.
Dr. Linus
28-04-2011
I don't think it can be described as a flop, and even though it's not done too well it's just one song, one mis-step. BTW went huge and the album presumably will too.

But what I disagree with is the idea that once she gets promoting it'll hit the Top 5. It'll have been out for 6/7 weeks by the time she promotes it here, it won't get that high up again IMO and could have already left the Top 40 by then. I think #9 will probably be its peak, but that's not to be sniffed at. I'd be very happy to have a #9 single!
maninthequeue
28-04-2011
The bottom line is Judas is doing nowhere near as well as Born This Way because many people think it is her worst single to date sounding like a tired 4th rate version of Bad Romance.

If she'd released a better single it would be doing better in the charts. Simples.
Dr. Linus
28-04-2011
Originally Posted by maninthequeue:
“The bottom line is Judas is doing nowhere near as well as Born This Way because many people think it is her worst single to date sounding like a tired 4th rate version of Bad Romance.

If she'd released a better single it would be doing better in the charts. Simples.”

I do agree with this, but it doesn't mean it's flopping. I think it's a very average and forgettable song but it's still doing well relatively speaking. The only way you could describe it as doing badly is by Gaga's own standards, which are ludicrously high.
scratchy23
28-04-2011
Originally Posted by sambryan-26:
“Going to have another moan about On Air, On Sale... it doesn't work, Britney, Beyonce and Gaga should released their singles a few weeks after the video being out like JLO did, BTW would have probabally been #1 and HIAM would have been Top 3”

Party Rock Anthem was released at the end of January but only got to #1 a couple of weeks ago.

Price Tag by Jessie J was one of the first on air/on sale tracks to be released and that debuted at number one when it had only been given proper airplay that week.

Other album tracks recently that have gone Top 3 have been album tracks that have gradually climbed over the weeks, such as S&M, Just Can't Get Enough, ET and (what will be a Top 3 hit) The Lazy Song.

The biggest example of all is Someone Like You, which has been on sale since 21 was released, but gradually climbed up the charts.

I think it's more of a case of Judas, Born This Way, Run The World, Hold It Against Me and Til The World Ends being not brilliant songs. I'm a big fan of Beyonce, and I do like Run The World simply because it's Beyonce who's made it - but I know full well that her song won't have a mass appeal.

To succeed in the charts you have to have a song that appeals to the masses, not just a select few of super fans, which is what Gaga and Britney have. And it frustrates me when super-fans blame promotion, airplay and lack of videos when songs don't fare well. People just have to admit that these five songs that have 'under performed' have done so because they're a little bit shit.
konebyvax
28-04-2011
Originally Posted by scratchy23:
“Party Rock Anthem was released at the end of January but only got to #1 a couple of weeks ago.

Price Tag by Jessie J was one of the first on air/on sale tracks to be released and that debuted at number one when it had only been given proper airplay that week.

Other album tracks recently that have gone Top 3 have been album tracks that have gradually climbed over the weeks, such as S&M, Just Can't Get Enough, ET and (what will be a Top 3 hit) The Lazy Song.

The biggest example of all is Someone Like You, which has been on sale since 21 was released, but gradually climbed up the charts.

I think it's more of a case of Judas, Born This Way, Run The World, Hold It Against Me and Til The World Ends being not brilliant songs. I'm a big fan of Beyonce, and I do like Run The World simply because it's Beyonce who's made it - but I know full well that her song won't have a mass appeal.

To succeed in the charts you have to have a song that appeals to the masses, not just a select few of super fans, which is what Gaga and Britney have. And it frustrates me when super-fans blame promotion, airplay and lack of videos when songs don't fare well. People just have to admit that these five songs that have 'under performed' have done so because they're a little bit shit.”


I agree with this. Gaga and Britney didn't get to superstar status based on selling to just their super fans who'd basically buy any old shit with their hero's name on it, they had to get a lot of 'floating voters' on board as well. And that hasn't happened this time round, certainly in the UK.

PS Talking of promo, Gaga performed Judas live on ellen today (yesterday?). Now this is a huge show and normally has a positive effect on sales. Last time I looked, Judas was 19 on US iTunes. Contrast that with Adele, a mere contestant sings RITD on AI (very poorly if I'm being honest) and Adele's original shoots up to #1. If I was Gaga's management i would be getting a little nervous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47JRRTQkh90
Confusing
28-04-2011
Personally, I am shocked that lady gaga has flopped. I thought she would do much better than this.
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