Simple Butterflyy - Hello BTW We meet again!!! Oh and since everyone here's apparently discussing the 'forbidden' (ha ha) subject
without spoiler tags? So will I...............
Anyway, I say it's simple? "If Amy and Rory are River's parents, then what River said about the Doctor just dropping out of the sky and knowing all about her doesn't really make sense."
If Amy and Rory= River's Parents? Then it's
quite plausible that she could have been raised on stories of the Doctor as her parents would know all about him before they ever concieved her yes? And the Doc' knowing all about her would make a perverse sort of sense since his timeline's running opposite to her's so when she's young? He knows her very well and when she's a good deal older? He knows her not at all or nearly such (10 didn't know her did he?) - Hence her melancholy/upset moment about not knowing him in The Impossible Astronaut - What's
the worst thing you could imagine re someone you've known, loved, nay worshipped all your life as you get to the time when you should both be
most aware of one another? Simple - It's that person or you completely forgetting the other - To a woman in particular? I couldn't imagine anything worse. Look at the current storyline in Emmerdale re Nicola and Jimmy, he made his
life with her, had a child and then? Was hit on the head and
completely forgot her - It nearly destroyed him............So imagine what something similar would do to a woman and one as emotional as River can get? It would be
beyond destroying her. It would cut her to the bone and
then some.........
As to the newbie's theory? (waves and shouts 'Hello'
) Well done; It's a Good idea and something I've been thinking a while for myself actually? I've done it quite simply with the ideas I explained elsewhere about how I think Moffat writes (Butterflyy will know what I mean!!). Put logically - Let's consider the evidence and see who River might kill shall we?
"A good man, a hero to many"? (Circa Father Octavian in F&S) Rory as a Centurion? Hero to many in that timeline and
maybe many millions more in the future where
they can timetravel and see what he did for the Pandorica & Amy? Maybe the Silence
made him originally to be a hero under their 'ahem' direction to? He looks like he does something herioc this week to in a few trailers (like taking on an entire
army of FBI/MIB at Cape Canaveral on his own). Anyway - Check as far as it looks like on the evidence
NB? I've a feeling we've not yet seen the
last of Stonehenge (Underhenge) and the Pandorica - The Information slot on BBC today says? "The Doctor helps lead a revolution against an Alien Invasion going back to the Dawn of Humankind". Hmm, Wonder what
that means?
Anyway back to the evidence? "The best man River knows?" Who else
but her father? If and it's a bloody big if - It does turn out that way? Who else to a little girl (as River once was) would be a
better man that she knows other than her own father? Check once more.
Finally? Amy's pregnancy? Well who knows? There may or may not be a plot brewing around who is the baby's father according to various sources and at least one person claims to have overheard confirmation in nearby filming to their home that Amy
is related to River and vice versa (names to? Ha, A big clue methinks - Pond source of a River perhaps). Also apparently the Doctor was seen holding
Twin babies in one block of filming - Wonder what all that is about? Anyway I think Amy
will have a child of some sort - Who, when or what they grow up to? Is as yet unknown............Check once more as to the plausibility here re River after all
who is Amy married to?
Finally? Consider - River
Did (out of Moffat's own mouth) know Rory in TPO and TBB. She just
pretended not to. Now
why would someone do that? Guilt maybe? How else would you feel guilt so much at someone so as to pretend not to know them unless? You'd murdered them in the past? Also If the rumours are true and he is her father? How much more guilt must she feel? It must have been something pretty major in the society/timeline she does it in (the killing) as well. Certainly, if she ends up guarded and watched by Armed Cleric squads and locked in Stormcage Facilities. Further to this?
Watch her manner with Amy to in F&S and TTOA? She seems almost 'deferential', certainly meek around her and she is
not that with anyone else. Waiting to follow a parent's lead perhaps? Anyway - The last point here of mine? That River is somehow guilty around Rory in her actions particularly re TPO and TBB? Certainly stands on scrutiny moreso if the current popular theory
is true. So again. Check.
So there you go - All the evidence stands up when you look at Rory as the
possible unfortunate victim of River's murderously evil, corrupt and devilish ways!! (LOL Only joking). Seriously though, he is or could be "A good man, a Hero to many". "The best man River knows"? Who else but someone who might just be her father and if not him? Someone she
so admires for his 2000 year vigil on Amy (who might or might not be...........You know). Amy's pregnancy, names (Pond, River) all stand up on the issue of her mothering River yes? Logic always teaches us to that the simplest answer? Is often the right one - The simplest answer here? Is that Amy's partner Rory is her Child's dad if such child happens thus Check yet again and she
does seem guilty in the extreme around Rory in TPO, TBB and TIA - Pretending not to know him in the first two? Why
else would that be but guilt at his future death at her hands? Again Check. Double check if he's her father - and on that? Watch TTOA and FAS again. How meek, reticent and quiet she is around Amy in that? Is a great argument for the current prevailing theory.
So with so much evidence in favour of this idea of the Newbie now having been examined? :yawn: I'm pretty damn certain that she's right personally. I believe that for
whatever reason? River's eventual target. The "Good Man, Hero to many/Best Man she knows" that she will one day kill is? Rory and that he might just be closer to her than even she yet knows as well.................
NB Emcee Girl? That is a long post Btw. Yours was an interesting one. Very interesting and right in my opinion as well. We shall see soon enough........
NNB
If that crackpot theory of mine or rather the "meet the parents" part of it is true? That means Amy and Rory?
Might just end up as the Doc's mother and father in law!!!!! Now how weird is that one?..............
I couldn't resist!
