We've seen a lot of her with Eleven, but Moffat said she also bet Ten loads more times. Maybe, in her view, she doesn't see Eleven all the time, instead she sees Ten and Eleven? Occasionally alternating between them. If it was all Eleven, why would she need the pictures of all the other Doctors?

We know it's not all 11, she's already been shown to meet 10 in SitL. The question is whether needing all those pictures means she also meets 12.

She might meet 12 it depends of Moffats run I suppose.

Didn't Moffat also say about Time of angels that it wasn't the second time they had met, and when Ten was travelling alone, they had more adventures?

Wouldn't surprise me. I like them alluding to other adventures. It gives the opportunity for books etc which can do things that the BBC could never afford to show.

Interesting? When/where was this?

I'm getting old, I read this thread as...

River travels with Witch Doctors!

I bet she's done that as well.

Yeah, I'd like to know this as well, I can't see how it fits because the first time she met him, she died, which is what is foreshadowed/referred to in TIA. So unless he went back on his own timeline and met her earlier, but that would potentially change the encounter they then had in SITL. If he really did say that, then he has made a big mistake, IMO.

Alternatively, just because he said it doesn't mean it's true, until it's mentioned as fact on the tv series

My interpretation has, and always has been, until I see conclusive proof, that HER doctor was doc 12. She had met doc 11 by the time she met doc 10. She thought he was doc 13, but when she looked into his eyes, she made a comment about him being younger than he'd ever looked, which made her realise it was an earlier doc than doc 11. Doc 11 will discover her secret this series, and will eventually get over it. When he meets a younger version of her as Doc 12 (assuming they solve the issue of him dying in 200 years time), when she commits the murder, he already knows what she is capable of, and knows her well enough that he trusts her and perhaps even loves her, and this is why she is much closer to Doc 12. We might not even see any of the Doc 12 stuff on screen, but if we do it'll be a younger river played by a younger actress.

It's the other way round - it's the first time he met her. That was the last time she met him - so any other meeting we see from the Doctor's point of view was a previous meeting in her lifetime. It works, but I don't recall having heard that (although thinking about it, it would be silly if they hadn't).

I meant met "him" as in Doc 10 in that context it meant sense, but yes, I'm aware that was the first time the Doctor met her from his point of view.

I think River has to have met 10 a least one more time otherwise her surprise at him not recognising her would not really make sense. Of course she would recognise him as the Doctor but she commented on his physical appearance so she would know she never spent anytime with a version that looks like him. I know she might have reasoned that it was possible an older version of herself had spent time with him but you would think she would be a little cautious especially when she first meets a new version.

River's a witch! It all makes sense!

She must have met Ten before SitL, otherwise she would have made a comment about him being a different regeneration. During the years Ten travelled alone, he may have travelled with River many times, which is why she wasn't aware he didn't know her in SitL. I hope River keeps coming back in the series, even when we have the 12th Doctor.

One thing that hasn't been cleared up, though it has been hinted at, is whether River and the Doctor are only travelling in 'opposite' directions, relative to their meetings with each other, as in

D: 1-2-3-4-5
R: 5-4-3-2-1

or whether they meet each other out of sequence sometimes:

D: 1-2-3-4-5
R: 5-3-4-2-1

If the latter is the case she could certainly have met the tenth Doctor more than once.

That would have been the case had Ten indeed travelled for many years alone. However, at the end of Journeys End I believe he states his age as 906 and in The End Of Time I believe he says he's 907, so he's only been travelling alone for a year. How many adventures can he have with River Song during that year, considering he's also doing other things like visiting Victorian England, the Planet of the Dead, the first colony on Mars and ... er ... Good Queen Bess?

It would have made more sense had Ten said he was much older (915?, 920?, 925?) in The End of Time, as that would have allowed for an untold number of adventures for Ten and River Song. The problem was that The End of Time was written by RTD and River Song is Steven Moffat's creation, and I don't think River Song was even in RTD's mind when he was planning the Tenth Doctor's swansong.

Moffat had the Doctor say about River in Time of Angels that "We keep meeting in the wrong order".

He specifically had the Doctor say "Keep" to imply there had been more meetings between the two since the Library.

As the only time Doc#11 had been without Amy was the 5 min/2 year trip to the moon in TEH then those meetings were most likely between Doc#10 and River.

Moffat also said in confidential that the meeting in the Library was the only major encounter the Doctor had with River before ToA. Of course if you're classing something as Major then there must also be things that are minor. So there were other meetings between the Doc and River but ones where nothing major happened.

I think that is true. And I also wonder if SITL was written when SM was still hoping DT might change his mind about continuing as I remember Rivers description of the older Doctor being very 10-centric - and maybe he was hoping he would get to tell out her story within 10s timeline. That or whether there were any plans to bring her back at all at that point.

Is Swan Song River's sister?

ICBM on its way for that one!