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Has Simon Cowell ‘officially’ destroyed The Integrity and the fairness of Bgt?
mogul122
30-04-2011
There has been numerous rumours of alleged behind the scenes manipulation by bgt producers for sometime.

Mr Cowell has seen it fit to blantantly break the bgt rules or shall we say the rules as perceived by the public, by over ruling the bgt judges that he appointed, by putting an act through to the next round that had not passed the celebrity judges buzzer round (the sexy britney act).

Will the public now think that the only rule book that bgt follows is Mr Cowell's rulebook?

Although I do like the sexy female acts on BGT, ITV did the right thing by stopping Mr Cowell in his tracks but they did it for the wrong reason.
They stopped the sexy female act going through for fear of a fine, they should have stopped it because it went against bgt rules.
Mr Cowell must learn that the public do not like to be ‘played ‘ or manipulated.

ITV and Mr Cowell must learn that the public cannot be controlled like a group of hungry pigeons who get excited when stale bread crumbs are thrown at them!

If Mr Cowell and ITV maintain this conduct then a more accurate title for BGT will be 'simon says..'
DE53
30-04-2011
Think Louis Walsh is standing in for The Hoff tonight and i'm sure he will have his rule book out Not that it made any difference on xfactor imo Simon Cowell makes the rules up as he goes along
Benny_CHt
30-04-2011
Has Simon Cowell ‘officially’ destroyed The Integrity and the fairness of Bgt?

What like he has already done on last years X Factor and all it's fixing and manipulation to the point of ridiculousness?
tommygunner
30-04-2011
Originally Posted by mogul122:
“Mr Cowell must learn that the public do not like to be ‘played ‘ or manipulated. ”

Which is why the public have made him a fortune by making his manipulative programmes the most-watched in the country, year in and out?
Unifix
30-04-2011
Yes, he has done the same to X Factor.
Banana Rama
30-04-2011
Can people stop moaning about Simon Cowell, its getting really boring, if you don't like the show then don't watch it, simples.
ABCZYX
30-04-2011
The integrity and fairness of BGT is only destroyed by deliberately putting through rubbish acts. It COMPLETELY ruins the integrity of the show and will prove to be its downfall. Like putting that "dancer" Tracey Moran through? It's ridiculous and completely unfair on both her and the better acts that get eliminated for the joke acts like this. It really drives me mad.
DE53
30-04-2011
Originally Posted by Banana Rama:
“Can people stop moaning about Simon Cowell, its getting really boring, if you don't like the show then don't watch it, simples.”

Not moaning about him, or saying i don't like the show, just think he maybe " adapts" the rules a little bit to suit

It's a telly programme for goodness sake hardly a matter of life and death, as you say if it bothers you don't watch it
Scratchy7929
30-04-2011
Originally Posted by Banana Rama:
“Can people stop moaning about Simon Cowell, its getting really boring, if you don't like the show then don't watch it, simples.”

That's the big question WHY!!!!! do people watch programmes like Cowell's & so compulsively as well (& buy into his mediocracy that results) - when true talent is being ignored up & down the country.It makes me feel a bit really.
DE53
30-04-2011
Originally Posted by Scratchy7929:
“That's the big question WHY!!!!! do people what programmes like Cowell's & so compulsively as well - when true talent is being ignored up & down the country.It makes me feel a bit really.”

What is true talent? how do you know it is being ignored?maybe there just isn't much true talent appplies to these kind of shows
Scratchy7929
30-04-2011
Originally Posted by DE53:
“What is true talent? how do you know it is being ignored?maybe there just isn't much true talent appplies to these kind of shows”

I'm talking about the small time acts who have signed some sort of contract with a talent agency or small labels if they are singers etc.There's loads of them about.$yco usually stays clear of those who are signed up, although it has become more apparent with some acts on X-factor.He must do some sort of deals behind the scene's with those acts.He usually makes sure they don't win his show's though, but uses them to get reasonably more talented line-up's in the final stages.Why the hell he spent £K's on Katie Waissel to buy her out of her contract nobody will know mind.Think he was setting her up for a top three finish - but it went horribly wrong for him :
He seems to be pushing the child acts on this years BGT though - & don't tell me he has nothing to do with who is getting through (although less hands on this year).He's getting them early then.He can mould them as he wants using kids & hence become more dependant on him.That's what he really looking for - control over his chosen one's - for better or worse.
DE53
30-04-2011
[quote=Scratchy7929;49766064]I'm talking about the small time acts who have signed some sort of contract with a talent agency or small labels if they are singers etc.There's loads of them about.$yco usually stays clear of those who are signed up, although it has become more apparent with some acts on X-factor.He must do some sort of deals behind the scene's with those acts.He usually makes sure they don't win his show's though, but uses them to get reasonably more talented line-up's in the final stages.Why the hell he spent £K's on Katie Waissel to buy her out of her contract nobody will know mind.Think he was setting her up for a top three finish - but it went horribly wrong for him :
He seems to be pushing the child acts on this years BGT though - & don't tell me he has nothing to do with who is getting through (although less hands on this year).He's getting them early then.He can mould them as he wants using kids & hence become more dependant on him.That's what he really looking for - control over his chosen one's - for better or worse.[/QUOTE]

Presumably he would have to buy them all out of any contracts previously signed

I think he more than got his monies worth out of Katie in publicity alone.Every week she was in the papers or a magazine (or her grandmother was )

You make SC sound like Fagin or some pervy "groomer "
Scratchy7929
01-05-2011
[quote=DE53;49767714]
Originally Posted by Scratchy7929:
“I'm talking about the small time acts who have signed some sort of contract with a talent agency or small labels if they are singers etc.There's loads of them about.$yco usually stays clear of those who are signed up, although it has become more apparent with some acts on X-factor.He must do some sort of deals behind the scene's with those acts.He usually makes sure they don't win his show's though, but uses them to get reasonably more talented line-up's in the final stages.Why the hell he spent £K's on Katie Waissel to buy her out of her contract nobody will know mind.Think he was setting her up for a top three finish - but it went horribly wrong for him :
He seems to be pushing the child acts on this years BGT though - & don't tell me he has nothing to do with who is getting through (although less hands on this year).He's getting them early then.He can mould them as he wants using kids & hence become more dependant on him.That's what he really looking for - control over his chosen one's - for better or worse.[/QUOTE]

Presumably he would have to buy them all out of any contracts previously signed

I think he more than got his monies worth out of Katie in publicity alone.Every week she was in the papers or a magazine (or her grandmother was )

You make SC sound like Fagin or some pervy "groomer " ”

That's my point really.This is not the best unknown talent in the UK - it's just a selection of people who at least want an element of success / recognition by going on the show THAT HAVE NOT SIGNED ANY SORT OF PROFESSION CONTRACT (including a semi-pro contract).I get the gist that alot of people think that show is the best the UK has got to offer as far as variety goes - it's far from that.It's a speed success show / a way of not having to climb the ladder which traditional variety show's used to do.
Perhaps due to the success of Britain's Got Talent & X-factor the are alot of people that have been inspired to have a go & signed them selves onto talent agencies etc. (think Rebecca Black in the USA - recorded a song / video on a small time label.Have heard a little bit about talent agencies picking up a little bit after many years of decline - many of them based on promises & not delivering however (modelling agencies have a bad track record as well).Not sure how big this has become though.Perhaps people who are looking for Fame are signing onto these agencies - which doesn't leave much 'unsigned' talent for Cowell to deal with.A reason why he appears to be going for the younger talent - there are restrictions on signing young people by talent agencies anyway.
Cowell may be taking a chance of accusations being slung at him by trying to push people who are under the legal age of responsibility - he's got the money behind him to take that chance though.
PS BTW no (illegal) sexual inuedo ment in my first comment

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...icle737571.ece
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