Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“I don't think I'm silly at all, and I think I made the point that the Roman story might become important in the future (I didn't make the point that we need to know everything about Amy's past, but I referred to that discussion between the doctor and Rory). Anyway, I now decided to give up on these thread in which a handful of people delight telling others that they are silly, stupid, not capable of following a simple plot etc.
You don't need to recommend me something complex to watch, read all my posts again in this thread and you see where I'm coming from (actually you have no idea what I normally watch, or what I read). I've never stated that the stories are too complex, or unfathomable (although there are some things that will probably remain unexplained). I understood everything and I enjoyed it, I just asked for more tolerance towards people who might have found it complex, and I tried to offer a positive explanation of why this might the case (e.g. because it may require you to think about the past series whilst also waiting for the answers from future episodes). It wasn't meant as a criticism, but people seem to think I'm blaspheming the god that is Moffat (I even love Moffat).
Generally it feels like people treating other people like a bunch of idiots.”
“I don't think I'm silly at all, and I think I made the point that the Roman story might become important in the future (I didn't make the point that we need to know everything about Amy's past, but I referred to that discussion between the doctor and Rory). Anyway, I now decided to give up on these thread in which a handful of people delight telling others that they are silly, stupid, not capable of following a simple plot etc.
You don't need to recommend me something complex to watch, read all my posts again in this thread and you see where I'm coming from (actually you have no idea what I normally watch, or what I read). I've never stated that the stories are too complex, or unfathomable (although there are some things that will probably remain unexplained). I understood everything and I enjoyed it, I just asked for more tolerance towards people who might have found it complex, and I tried to offer a positive explanation of why this might the case (e.g. because it may require you to think about the past series whilst also waiting for the answers from future episodes). It wasn't meant as a criticism, but people seem to think I'm blaspheming the god that is Moffat (I even love Moffat).
Generally it feels like people treating other people like a bunch of idiots.”
First of all, I didn't say you are silly, I said you were being silly - two very different things! And I defend the fact that you claiming that Moffs stories were incomprehensible unless you had watched the previous series silly, because it completely disregarded the fact that for certain storylines/recurring themes, this has always been the case in Doctor Who - but nobody seems to mind about them!
I don't personally find SM any better or worse a showrunner than RTD - a fact which I have pointed out many times.
It might be that you have read a 'superior' tone to my thread - that's not intended. However, as I tried to demonstrate a few times before: what I find incomprehensible is people decrying the 'complexity' when there isn't any - other than that which has been left intentionally. Just as it was in RTD's reign, just as it is for many other TV shows... I don't get the sudden knee-jerks of 'it's too complicated', when it's no more complicated than what came before. It's people trying to pick at the wrong threads.
